tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4444762441887107389.post2392209307465660884..comments2024-03-07T09:25:09.142-08:00Comments on Long-Forgotten: Here Comes the Bride, Part Two: "Beating Heart"HBG2http://www.blogger.com/profile/05073387557562504315noreply@blogger.comBlogger35125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4444762441887107389.post-22738805961591887912020-05-27T10:29:09.934-07:002020-05-27T10:29:09.934-07:00You're welcome!You're welcome!HBG2https://www.blogger.com/profile/05073387557562504315noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4444762441887107389.post-82568585249412344682020-05-26T19:23:41.518-07:002020-05-26T19:23:41.518-07:00I went back on line and the Sept 3, 1990 is one of...I went back on line and the Sept 3, 1990 is one of the one I referenced. I see what you mean about the variations. I never noticed that lighting before, it had to be very subtle. I even broke out my personal video recordings from 1993 to look for the lighting, but my camera didn't capture it. I learn more and more every time I try to figure the Mansion out. Your site is one of the best references, thanks again.MRaymondhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00352355678521753079noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4444762441887107389.post-68881347809915099342020-05-26T18:45:14.797-07:002020-05-26T18:45:14.797-07:00Very hard to say. The Sept 3, 1990 video (which I&...Very hard to say. The Sept 3, 1990 video (which I'm sure you are referencing) shows lighting variations on the bride as you approach which could be consistent with blinking lights inside her.HBG2https://www.blogger.com/profile/05073387557562504315noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4444762441887107389.post-60995307058060793772020-05-26T18:17:04.376-07:002020-05-26T18:17:04.376-07:00That’s wild. Did she exist like that at Disneyland...That’s wild. Did she exist like that at Disneyland or just WDW? I love the effect. The Disneyland videos I saw are from 90, 92, 93 And 2001, the last one was infrared like the one you mentioned above. It’s possible that cameras of the day couldn’t capture the effect but the IR did a great job. MRaymondhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00352355678521753079noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4444762441887107389.post-22819663657074679002020-05-26T15:46:59.134-07:002020-05-26T15:46:59.134-07:00You can also see the blinking lights in this pre-&...You can also see the blinking lights in this pre-"Haunting" 2007 WDW video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kZZi65-ZvQ&feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR0b7rmDLmP67fN_99Dpe52fRp2uxe0fjf1cw0OVzg70lY9ds6srljpHM6AHBG2https://www.blogger.com/profile/05073387557562504315noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4444762441887107389.post-87846098452592771442020-05-26T13:44:28.587-07:002020-05-26T13:44:28.587-07:00I'm guessing, but I think it was a rather subt...I'm guessing, but I think it was a rather subtle effect and hence not captured in most videos, being beyond the reach of the cameras of the day, but by the same token, I'm wondering if it was, ironically, exaggerated in that one video by the type of camera the guy used?HBG2https://www.blogger.com/profile/05073387557562504315noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4444762441887107389.post-2254041313061242252020-05-26T13:24:22.746-07:002020-05-26T13:24:22.746-07:00I was re-reading the posts on the Brides evolution...I was re-reading the posts on the Brides evolution and noticed the video for the blinking lights in the bride. With all my trips through the early Mansion I don't recall ever seeing her like that. The video proves it was there, I must have missed it. I went through my own videos from 92 and she wasn't blinking. I also checked at least three Youtube videos from the 90s. Do you know how long they used that effect?MRaymondhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00352355678521753079noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4444762441887107389.post-62968484458029428222019-11-15T00:13:01.739-08:002019-11-15T00:13:01.739-08:00As a complement to this, the younger you are, the ...As a complement to this, the younger you are, the more resistance you have to accompany the small offspring throughout their growth. Each stage requires the necessary skills to take care of them and guide them in their development.<br /><br />karthikhttp://www.ssweddingphotography.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4444762441887107389.post-19083080955696764872019-01-03T07:58:07.026-08:002019-01-03T07:58:07.026-08:00I would agree. Most likely Yale had a hard time de...I would agree. Most likely Yale had a hard time delivering an effective approach to it. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4444762441887107389.post-89377303664665964872019-01-02T22:10:16.204-08:002019-01-02T22:10:16.204-08:00Wow, thanks for the info! But I don't see how ...Wow, thanks for the info! But I don't see how the Nylon 6 screen could have worked as you describe <i>in conjunction</i> with a fully-dimensional figure behind it, as the synchronization obviously would not have remained stable as you moved past it, to say nothing of viewers of different heights (e.g. kids and adults), so a changing-face projection on a scrim would have ruled out a mannequin behind it. They would never have lined up. Contrariwise, projection on a mannequin (Leota effect) would have ruled out a scrim, as it would have interfered with the projection. Blueprints which I'm not at liberty to share show a Beating Heart AA behind the Nylon 6 screen, so at least by that stage the bride must have had a permanent face, and the screen could only have served to put a fog or blur in front of the figure (as indeed was the case). No changing-face projection would still have been possible by that point. This may be another case where Davis asked for an effect that Yale could not deliver (like the appearing/disappearing see-saw Royals). I imagine that in 1969 combining the Leota effect with a changing image effect would have involved a bulky double-projector and required more room than the attic affords.HBG2https://www.blogger.com/profile/05073387557562504315noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4444762441887107389.post-37994926077622455872019-01-02T17:27:48.984-08:002019-01-02T17:27:48.984-08:00I wanted to add a comment onto this regarding what...I wanted to add a comment onto this regarding what you mention in the post as a changing portrait concept of the bride. Based on personal knowledge on that piece of artwork, it actually is not a changing portrait concept, but it is Davis's effect design for how she would actually appear in the attraction. The scrim you mention, Nylon 6, would have served as the projection front for her normal, living look. Then when her heart would beat, she would fade to reveal the "true" look of the bride: a decaying corpse. She would then transform back to normal upon the next heartbeat, and it would simply loop from there. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4444762441887107389.post-74773399979975938262018-09-13T14:21:09.333-07:002018-09-13T14:21:09.333-07:00I don't think they can ditch her very easily, ...I don't think they can ditch her very easily, as she is represented in a lot of merchandise. I'm afraid we're stuck with her. If they ever did remove her, it would only be after she had been absent from the merchandise for a considerable period of time. What I wish they would do is (a) remake her as a real AA rather than an obvious projection, (b) silence her, (c) make her features less clear as time goes by, so that she begins to resemble earlier bride versions, and of course (d) put the red heart back in her. They'll have to retain the hatchet to go with the husband portraits, and she could still vocalize a little--maybe a chuckle or something.HBG2https://www.blogger.com/profile/05073387557562504315noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4444762441887107389.post-78717727641149208512018-09-12T20:18:39.992-07:002018-09-12T20:18:39.992-07:00I can't believe Constance has been there for 1...I can't believe Constance has been there for 12 years! 12 years! Do you ever think they'll change/revamp her? I know it seems highly unlikely but one can surely hope. Im curious, If you could revamp Constance what would you change/keep about her? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4444762441887107389.post-70069768892377393422018-09-05T19:31:52.733-07:002018-09-05T19:31:52.733-07:00The Hatbox Ghost had a following among influential...The Hatbox Ghost had a following among influential WDI Imagineers. That's what made the difference, in actuality. HBG2https://www.blogger.com/profile/05073387557562504315noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4444762441887107389.post-36569513000584280072018-09-05T18:01:43.790-07:002018-09-05T18:01:43.790-07:00True, I remember watching a documentary on the hat...True, I remember watching a documentary on the hatbox ghost. The imagineers said the only reason why they brought him back was because he had such a huge cult following even while he was absent in the mansion and they eventually gave in. Maybe it's possible to do the same for The Bride? Like a popular hashtag on Twitter or tumblr or something.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4444762441887107389.post-59512792357385101252018-09-04T14:39:44.851-07:002018-09-04T14:39:44.851-07:00One can always try, but in my experience they don&...One can always try, but in my experience they don't respond to petitions.HBG2https://www.blogger.com/profile/05073387557562504315noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4444762441887107389.post-36208651444821752092018-09-03T15:47:35.919-07:002018-09-03T15:47:35.919-07:00Do you think it's possible to make a petition ...Do you think it's possible to make a petition to bring back the beating heart bride? Surely if enough people complain, I'm sure they might consider it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4444762441887107389.post-71458982169204226222018-02-21T07:18:40.686-08:002018-02-21T07:18:40.686-08:00Ah, yes, as I was reading Part 3, I was starting t...Ah, yes, as I was reading Part 3, I was starting to think it might actually be the smurfette, but I wouldn't have known for sure without you. Thanks, HBG2!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4444762441887107389.post-51313629626119874042018-02-20T20:24:20.077-08:002018-02-20T20:24:20.077-08:00I saw it too. It's the WDW "middle bride,...I saw it too. It's the WDW "middle bride," dubbed "the smurf bride" by her detractors. (See the next post in this series.)HBG2https://www.blogger.com/profile/05073387557562504315noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4444762441887107389.post-3691327231196808012018-02-20T17:39:48.830-08:002018-02-20T17:39:48.830-08:00In 2012, I went to the Disney Archives special exh...In 2012, I went to the Disney Archives special exhibit at the Ronald Reagan Presidential Library. They had some great theme park pieces, including an attic bride. You can see it at 2:38 in this video: https://youtu.be/DIrNQ_qqXOw<br /><br />I'm thinking its this first version of the bride (maybe from WDW because of the unpainted face), but I can't remember what the placard said. If the eyes glowed on this model, that effect didn't seem to be running. Perhaps someone else will be able to identify it more clearly.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4444762441887107389.post-37298672544280927922017-12-06T15:29:34.290-08:002017-12-06T15:29:34.290-08:00But you need the piano in order for it to churn ou...But you need the piano in order for it to churn out the melancholy version of "Here Comes the Bride" overlaying the main central "Grim Grinning Ghosts (The Screaming Song)" theme used throughout the ride from Stretching Room to Graveyard.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06552175322317272187noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4444762441887107389.post-64091104176206274142015-08-20T16:10:17.058-07:002015-08-20T16:10:17.058-07:00I thought I was the only one and that I was going ...I thought I was the only one and that I was going crazy! Does anybody know how long she was there to replace the uncovered face bride and why ?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4444762441887107389.post-5872355179077377332013-04-26T18:51:15.306-07:002013-04-26T18:51:15.306-07:00I remember going to disneyland on 2004, and seeing...I remember going to disneyland on 2004, and seeing a no-face eyes only bride with really bright eyes and a veil covering her face. I remember her clearly because of two reasons: One being I was used to the uncovered face bride and second because I believe the next year or 2006 got constance and a whole new attic. I really miss the pop-up ghosts, they were really creepy in the attic, unlike the graveyard ones.<br />Carlos Genaro Manzohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01849141758178163772noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4444762441887107389.post-9892612390531983332012-09-24T14:12:05.372-07:002012-09-24T14:12:05.372-07:00The "slit eye" bride was in WDW for a wh...The "slit eye" bride was in WDW for a while in the mid to late 80's I remember seeing it there as a kidTimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07863321629317910486noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4444762441887107389.post-54569913043519356462012-06-25T21:35:00.815-07:002012-06-25T21:35:00.815-07:00There's a photo of the WDW bats in this post:
...There's a photo of the WDW bats in this post:<br />http://longforgottenhauntedmansion.blogspot.com/2010/05/here-comes-bride-and-long-way-it-was.html<br /><br />Here's another:<br />http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y32/danolson/secrets_attic_bats.jpgHBG2https://www.blogger.com/profile/05073387557562504315noreply@blogger.com