tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4444762441887107389.post8907800997646908230..comments2024-03-07T09:25:09.142-08:00Comments on Long-Forgotten: Into the Dark ForestHBG2http://www.blogger.com/profile/05073387557562504315noreply@blogger.comBlogger32125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4444762441887107389.post-19754007158485046592021-04-27T19:05:56.917-07:002021-04-27T19:05:56.917-07:00Tragically, Snow White's Haunted Forest is no ...Tragically, Snow White's Haunted Forest is no more. Her ride has been drastically remodeled (and given the inane new name of Snow White's Enchanted Wish) to hew more closely to the plot of the movie.Karalorahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06760419621066274867noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4444762441887107389.post-11432071035943120452016-04-21T13:48:02.925-07:002016-04-21T13:48:02.925-07:00No, I'm afraid they aren't. The Snow White...No, I'm afraid they aren't. The Snow White ride had already existed several years when Babes came out.HBG2https://www.blogger.com/profile/05073387557562504315noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4444762441887107389.post-12416578448407484882016-03-27T16:22:47.245-07:002016-03-27T16:22:47.245-07:00i just read your article , and am surprised that n...i just read your article , and am surprised that no-one has mentioned the spooky trees from disneys babes in toyland ,! i was trying to find stills of them when i found your blog do you think the trees in anaheim ,on snow white ,are the costumes from bitl?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09316918050784266678noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4444762441887107389.post-68466276182068321442013-03-10T15:27:53.255-07:002013-03-10T15:27:53.255-07:00Hi Mike, glad you like it here. It wouldn't s...Hi Mike, glad you like it here. It wouldn't surprise me too much if that Snow White figure used the same body as Beating Heart. One issue would be size. Most of the figures in the Fantasyland dark rides are less than full-scale, to save room. But that SW figure is mysterious anyway, and may not even be from the SW ride, so anything's possible.HBG2https://www.blogger.com/profile/05073387557562504315noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4444762441887107389.post-28786835211181172782013-03-10T04:18:13.282-07:002013-03-10T04:18:13.282-07:00Hi there - First, your blog is FANTASTIC, and an e...Hi there - First, your blog is FANTASTIC, and an enormous asset to any Mansion fan. Excellent work on every one of your posts.<br /><br />Here's an interesting possible link between SWSA and the Haunted Mansion: The DL SWSA is notable for (reportedly) having had no actual figures of Snow White herself, <br /><br />prior to a 1983 remodel in which one was added. However, a photo from 1972 surfaced which shows a mysterious figure of Snow White not found later in the ride's <br /><br />history. There's a write-up here (http://www.kennetti.fi/swscary_castlecourtyard.html) which discusses the authenticity of the photo, and possible origins <br /><br />for the figure.<br /><br />What struck me was the familiar outstretched right hand, left hand on dress, and blank-eyed stare. I realized it looked a heck of a lot like the "round eyes" and <br /><br />"middle" brides, and oddly enough, the mysterious "slit eyes" bride even moreso. I'm really wondering if they're copies of the same simple AA, or MAYBE one of the <br /><br />brides was even recycled. I made a photo comparison I'd be happy to email you. Some of the hand positions are an almost exact match - just imagine a candle in her <br /><br />hand instead of a bird.<br /><br />Disney used AA copies extensively, as you've pointed out before, so this may not be all that notable. Maybe there are "brides" all over the park! But still thought <br /><br />it was interesting to see this mysterious "lost" AA and suddenly feel like I was looking at the Mansion instead. If true, it's also amusing to think that Disney would <br /><br />re-tool the dark, scary attic bride as Snow White, of all characters.<br /><br />Or just maybe it went the other way - perhaps the bride's face IS Snow White under all that dark paint! :)mikedeeezhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01722717323321110191noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4444762441887107389.post-24443353697860541212012-12-13T15:58:56.958-08:002012-12-13T15:58:56.958-08:00HEy, just discovered this great post on a not well...HEy, just discovered this great post on a not well documented segment of this "over" documented attraction. I always liked the way those trees look when you can make them out...FCGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14529465687870986576noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4444762441887107389.post-52018061306343385332012-10-16T15:38:08.487-07:002012-10-16T15:38:08.487-07:00Hmm. That's the first I've ever heard of ...Hmm. That's the first I've ever heard of that, and there's nothing on the blueprints suggesting it. I'd say it's doubtful.HBG2https://www.blogger.com/profile/05073387557562504315noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4444762441887107389.post-65655337499043102462012-10-16T14:31:05.851-07:002012-10-16T14:31:05.851-07:00Reading this post reminded me of an effect I remem...Reading this post reminded me of an effect I remember seeing as a kid in the WDW mansion. As the doom buggies descend from the roof, two of the attic windows are visible to the right behind the trees. On various trips in the 90s, I recall the broken attic window dangling and flailing violently in the "wind". I've never seen anyone else mention this effect and I'm starting to wonder if I had imagined it as a kid. Could you shed any light on this?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4444762441887107389.post-81302524301439924222012-07-19T14:37:01.496-07:002012-07-19T14:37:01.496-07:00"Memory is the most convincing of liars,"..."Memory is the most convincing of liars," it's true. The trees have always been there and are little altered.HBG2https://www.blogger.com/profile/05073387557562504315noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4444762441887107389.post-37105495661540183752012-07-17T08:12:58.960-07:002012-07-17T08:12:58.960-07:00I don't remember the tree's being so promi...I don't remember the tree's being so prominent in my earlier ride experiences. They always seemed a later addition, and were an attempt to mask the exterior of the house you're exiting (Mansard Roof) is different from the greek revival House you enter. Memory is a tricky thing,so my memories are probably faulty, especially when you see the trees on the blueprints.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4444762441887107389.post-11150643508160104462012-07-03T16:19:15.643-07:002012-07-03T16:19:15.643-07:00Yeah, those types of photos are definitely a mixed...Yeah, those types of photos are definitely a mixed blessing. The scientist in you sees what's going on, but the poet in you is not too impressed!HBG2https://www.blogger.com/profile/05073387557562504315noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4444762441887107389.post-68101967501497716402012-07-03T15:32:53.387-07:002012-07-03T15:32:53.387-07:00Great post! I want to point out that it was the aw...Great post! I want to point out that it was the awful photos I took of the trees on Snow White and the HM that made me realize I needed to stop using a flash and upgrade my camera. Wow! Those trees looked like crumpled up tin foil. Amazing how much proper lighting can transform something.Davelandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10720475138513029144noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4444762441887107389.post-42546730625837365462012-07-01T19:14:18.733-07:002012-07-01T19:14:18.733-07:00I originally was going to discuss the FONR and the...I originally was going to discuss the FONR and the crabby apple trees in the Wizard of Oz, etc., but in the end I decided to restrict things to trees without any intentionally comic dimension, otherwise there would be too much material included of only marginal relevance. But yeah, the FONR trees do have some resemblance to the HM/Snow White trees, and as a matter of fact X. Atencio and Rolly Crump both worked on the Babes in Toyland movie.HBG2https://www.blogger.com/profile/05073387557562504315noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4444762441887107389.post-70182213445862640002012-07-01T18:47:10.752-07:002012-07-01T18:47:10.752-07:00The DL trees also remind me of the trees in the &q...The DL trees also remind me of the trees in the "Forest of No Return" scene in Babes in Toyland (1961). When those trees were in their "sleep" mode their faces were no quite so obvious and looked much like these HM trees.Ednoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4444762441887107389.post-23112114900054419802012-07-01T14:23:54.991-07:002012-07-01T14:23:54.991-07:00I guess if the the trees moved the "o'er ...I guess if the the trees moved the "o'er the dead oak tree" line wouldn't make sense anymore. Then again, it's not the trees themselves that are alive ;) I thought of another possible reason the animated trees could have ben nixed. Maybe the ones outside the attic were left static to give your mind time to rest and prepare between the terrifying attic and the grand finale-like nature of the graveyard. As for the ones in the graveyard, there is so much to focus on, the trees would probable get lost in the mix. I actually like the more subtle faces in the trees, it fits the overarching idea of the mansion and its grounds watching you. It would be neat if they put some kind of subtle lighting so you could see the tree faces a little more. It would be a far better update than what we've been getting so far.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4444762441887107389.post-49029631042693647322012-06-30T19:57:34.004-07:002012-06-30T19:57:34.004-07:00LOVE the idea of the trees plucking the rider from...LOVE the idea of the trees plucking the rider from the roof and handing him down to the graveyard!Melissahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06169920944565828337noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4444762441887107389.post-89381323828478654242012-06-30T16:03:48.193-07:002012-06-30T16:03:48.193-07:00Actually there are 12 "mechanical trees"...Actually there are 12 "mechanical trees" enumerated on the blueprint altogether. There are the seven lining your way down into the graveyard plus another five scattered around. Most of the large trees you see in the graveyard were originally going to be animated.HBG2https://www.blogger.com/profile/05073387557562504315noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4444762441887107389.post-77914582216706446882012-06-30T15:35:04.542-07:002012-06-30T15:35:04.542-07:00Did you notice that there are *eight* trees on tha...Did you notice that there are *eight* trees on that first blueprint? The eighth is in the bottom right-hand corner and looks like it's behind the singing busts. I'll have to look for a face on that one the next time I'm there.Riccardohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09646291351417926016noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4444762441887107389.post-69815226491487658052012-06-30T00:01:24.963-07:002012-06-30T00:01:24.963-07:00Considering all of the other things hidden in the ...Considering all of the other things hidden in the mansion, it wouldn't surprise me if that's what they are. <br /><br />The only way to know is to see the trees in full light, and in person. Even then it would be up to interpretation. The people that would know are most likely gone. <br /><br />But it could lead to another Disney obsession, Hidden Dwarfs. :)Commander Maxhttp://www.the-grey-ghost.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4444762441887107389.post-30964759313420546362012-06-29T22:00:28.776-07:002012-06-29T22:00:28.776-07:00It's tempting to go looking for it, but I don&...It's tempting to go looking for it, but I don't think it's there.HBG2https://www.blogger.com/profile/05073387557562504315noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4444762441887107389.post-83836900673289889422012-06-29T20:24:32.137-07:002012-06-29T20:24:32.137-07:00I have to ask, are the seven trees the seven dwarf...I have to ask, are the seven trees the seven dwarfs(loosely based)? <br /><br />I would swear #7 bears a slight resemblance to Dopey(little nose). <br />Once you mentioned the seven dwarfs, I couldn't help but wonder. After all it wouldn't be the first attraction(other than Snow White), that the dwarfs made an appearance. Plus I know artists, they have a tendency to play such games.Commander Maxhttp://www.the-grey-ghost.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4444762441887107389.post-91258834153021921792012-06-29T09:05:06.743-07:002012-06-29T09:05:06.743-07:00That poem is perfect.
As for the Silly Symphony, y...That poem is perfect.<br />As for the Silly Symphony, yeah, grasping trees were a cliché long before Snow White. We could chase that one all over. But since the Skeleton Dance is a Disney classic, it would likely have been part of the imaginative toolbox mentally carried about by the Imagineers.HBG2https://www.blogger.com/profile/05073387557562504315noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4444762441887107389.post-7213083311726515432012-06-29T08:49:17.132-07:002012-06-29T08:49:17.132-07:00Thanks. And yeah, I really don't like the WDW...Thanks. And yeah, I really don't like the WDW caretaker. He looks like he'd be more at home holding a skateboard than a shovel. (Guys, the stock character is "the OLD caretaker," got it?)HBG2https://www.blogger.com/profile/05073387557562504315noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4444762441887107389.post-37669760203906075872012-06-29T08:46:51.112-07:002012-06-29T08:46:51.112-07:00Nice to know. But it looks temporary or unfinishe...Nice to know. But it looks temporary or unfinished with those cables for railings. Maybe that's all there is going to be.HBG2https://www.blogger.com/profile/05073387557562504315noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4444762441887107389.post-21364029418116087002012-06-29T08:35:01.667-07:002012-06-29T08:35:01.667-07:00There are also grasping trees in the 1929 Silly Sy...There are also grasping trees in the 1929 Silly Symphony "Skeleton Dance" (which also includes a skinny howling dog who bears a resemblance to the HM caretaker's hound).<br /><br /><br />When I lived in the woods, I gained a whole new appreciation for one of my favorite Robert Frost poems:<br /><br />She had no saying dark enough<br />For the dark pine that kept<br />Forever trying the window latch<br />Of the room where they slept.<br /><br />The tireless but ineffectual hands<br />That with every futile pass<br />Made the great tree seem as a little bird<br />Before the mystery of glass!<br /><br />It never had been inside the room,<br />And only one of the two<br />Was afraid in an oft-repeated dream<br />Of what the tree might do.Melissahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06169920944565828337noreply@blogger.com