tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4444762441887107389.post3839276361757556682..comments2024-03-07T09:25:09.142-08:00Comments on Long-Forgotten: The Berm Graveyard Rises From the DeadHBG2http://www.blogger.com/profile/05073387557562504315noreply@blogger.comBlogger48125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4444762441887107389.post-11015506738726745502021-12-01T08:15:24.907-08:002021-12-01T08:15:24.907-08:00New Orleans was indeed a spanish colony from 1762 ...New Orleans was indeed a spanish colony from 1762 to 1803, and during the XIX century after the incorporation of Louisiana to the USA there was quite a bunch of powerful people of spanish ascendance in the city.unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13972151794497777879noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4444762441887107389.post-45855497521574738492020-02-13T15:31:03.093-08:002020-02-13T15:31:03.093-08:00Rest assured, "Claude" exactly rhymes wi...Rest assured, "Claude" exactly rhymes with "sod."HBG2https://www.blogger.com/profile/05073387557562504315noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4444762441887107389.post-57887919321478291862020-02-13T14:37:33.048-08:002020-02-13T14:37:33.048-08:00The tombstone that pays tribute to Claude Coats bo...The tombstone that pays tribute to Claude Coats bothers me because, I my mind, it doesn't rhyme like the rest. I don't know how Claude Coats pronounced his name, but to me 'Claude' rhymes with 'sword' not 'sod'.Markus Ibbetsonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4444762441887107389.post-88822792704217604052017-05-22T19:53:04.946-07:002017-05-22T19:53:04.946-07:00I haven't been back in a long time because I d...I haven't been back in a long time because I didn't think there would be any more updates, but I'm constantly referring people to your archives.Melissahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06169920944565828337noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4444762441887107389.post-22599451291152987302017-04-05T10:42:53.782-07:002017-04-05T10:42:53.782-07:00--although I do have to say that your analysis of ...--although I do have to say that your analysis of Phantom Manor (to which I too have never been) several years ago was some of the best analysis of themed space I've ever read, and the discussion with Cory Gross in the comments section was very good and well-written. I found some of Mr. Gross's posts there to be somewhat snippy and vituperative, but for the most part you two argued admirably back and forth. Really well-done.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08624957224780975968noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4444762441887107389.post-4968421735998842802017-04-05T10:16:21.734-07:002017-04-05T10:16:21.734-07:00Thanks, both of you, and yes, it's true that I...Thanks, both of you, and yes, it's true that I focus on the original Anaheim HM because I have personal experience with that one going back to its beginning. Background materials for Tokyo, Paris, and Hong Kong are less available and comparatively thin. Orlando gets some bandwidth here, but my tendency is to direct readers to Foxxy over at her <i>Passport</i> blog when the WDW HM comes up, as she's got much more experience in the history and artistry of THAT Mansion.HBG2https://www.blogger.com/profile/05073387557562504315noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4444762441887107389.post-9090003315277307582017-04-05T08:16:03.423-07:002017-04-05T08:16:03.423-07:00I'm writing in the first time to answer this, ...I'm writing in the first time to answer this, but I've been reading this blog for quite a while, and I think that HBG2 would say that he has never been to either one and therefore can't really comment. I think!<br /><br />By the way, HBG2, I know you've been so rightly praised in the past here, and let me add my name to the chorus. My sincere thanks for this blog; it supplies great reading and inspires serious thought. I only discovered it recently, though, so I guess I'm one of your new 700,000!<br />Thanks again,<br />KSKarl S.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4444762441887107389.post-2970445808276205592017-04-03T18:05:09.887-07:002017-04-03T18:05:09.887-07:00Would you ever consider doing more posts on Phanto...Would you ever consider doing more posts on Phantom Manor or even Mystic Manor in the future? I'm dying to see more, and I'm hoping the blog can resurrect some new ideas to share with us all.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4444762441887107389.post-62098149005506749092017-03-22T19:21:06.323-07:002017-03-22T19:21:06.323-07:00I wonder if there's enough on Madame Leota to ...I wonder if there's enough on Madame Leota to warrant an exploration. On the surface everyone gets the gag of "medium in her medium" and the visual joke of the blurring of her hair and archetypal crystal-ball mist, but there's some mythological precedent of "oracular head" characters that I'm sure she's descent descended from, with Mimir from Norse myth being just one of them. DBhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12770023978697698553noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4444762441887107389.post-57802558620037324602017-01-27T09:08:57.006-08:002017-01-27T09:08:57.006-08:00Pity that the best irony comes from those deaf to ...Pity that the best irony comes from those deaf to irony. How may one compliment them?HBG2https://www.blogger.com/profile/05073387557562504315noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4444762441887107389.post-77006277314958752722017-01-26T21:24:29.892-08:002017-01-26T21:24:29.892-08:00HBG2, get a life and stop being negative and hatef...HBG2, get a life and stop being negative and hateful of everything! 😡Philiphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13945187365513445472noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4444762441887107389.post-33658851443730291862017-01-19T10:41:58.589-08:002017-01-19T10:41:58.589-08:00Oops, thank you for pointing out the error. I'...Oops, thank you for pointing out the error. I've corrected it in the post. And thanks for the personal recollection of the WDW scene. Most of the testimony I've gotten since publishing the post on Webster has gone against him being there when the ride opened. As for material, yep. I've been publishing histories and mysteries faster than they've been coming to light. (Just witness the pace in our first year, when the virginal fields were ripe for harvest.) I don't want LF to degenerate into trivia-for-trivia's sake, so I'm in a state of hibernation between noteworthy finds these days.HBG2https://www.blogger.com/profile/05073387557562504315noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4444762441887107389.post-73100658553225659262017-01-18T22:33:24.570-08:002017-01-18T22:33:24.570-08:00Fascinating post as always. Two things: Kim Irvin...Fascinating post as always. Two things: Kim Irvine is the daughter of Leota and Harvey Toombs, not Dick Irvine. Kim was married to Dick's son, George Irvine. <br /><br />Regarding Webster, I was at WDW on Oct 1 1971 and at the time already a 12-year-old Haunted Mansion fan from California. I rode it a couple of times and can tell you that if there was a Webster in the webs it was not at all perceivable, as I would have noted it. What I do remember is that the spiderweb scene was oddly garish in comparison to the rest of the HM, which of course was perfection, in my young opinion.<br /><br />Keep posting; what--are you running out of material?Tom K Morrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01782286005493486683noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4444762441887107389.post-80881611112750110562017-01-11T12:37:44.864-08:002017-01-11T12:37:44.864-08:00It has been a dream of mine to walk through the ha...It has been a dream of mine to walk through the haunted mansion like that! How was it? Would you mind sharing who showed you around?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13949178647784931328noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4444762441887107389.post-4114293076274257982017-01-05T11:02:39.154-08:002017-01-05T11:02:39.154-08:00Well, first of all, thank you for the kind words. ...Well, first of all, thank you for the kind words. I appreciate it. Secondly, so little is known about Webster that we cannot even postulate a latest-possible-date for his removal if he was there at all in the beginning. If he really was there that long, however, then almost certainly there must be photos of him out there somewhere, to say nothing about eyewitnesses who currently don't know or perhaps care that they saw something special that others would love to hear about.HBG2https://www.blogger.com/profile/05073387557562504315noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4444762441887107389.post-16201035007833885682017-01-05T03:57:39.189-08:002017-01-05T03:57:39.189-08:00I've been a fan of your site for a couple of y...I've been a fan of your site for a couple of years and have to say your work is amazing. To take such an arcane subject as the history of the HM and continue to submit new found material after some 5+ years astonishes me (not to mention your depth of research and theorization). <br />In the last few days I've reviewed all your blog posts since Long Forgotten's inception. <br />One post I found particularly interesting was that of 'Webster' the skeleton in the spider web. This topic jogged an old memory from many years ago. <br />As a child every year our family would vacation on the Florida coast. My father was a huge Disney fan, so when WDW opened in that state he had to be there as soon as possible (which would have been late spring/ early summer ’72). <br />Of course, our favorite ride was the Haunted Mansion. After a few years of visiting the WDW and riding the HM, we began to have a reoccurring argument following each visit. Something was missing in the mansion. The problem was, neither of us could decide what feature had been removed or altered, however one thing we could always agree upon was that the feature involved the giant spiders near the staircase. Every time we rode through the haunted mansion, we would look carefully around as we passed that section but in the end we never solved the mystery (and if memory serves I thought they had changed the types or sizes of the spiders). <br />Low and behold, after all these years; the answer popped into my mind while reading your blog - we must have seen ‘Webster’! Well I'm not absolutely convinced, I was only a child at the time and the mystery may have been something as simple as a new coat of paint on the spiders, but I can say with certainty that for a number of years we did argue that some feature had changed along the stairway/ spider web section of the ride. Could Webster have been viewed by the public as long as eight months after WDW opened? <br /><br />Anyway, I hope this little recollection might be of help to pin down a time when ‘the man in the web’ disappeared. <br /><br />PS - Keep up your excellent work! <br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18057008253961275339noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4444762441887107389.post-53876895767166563412016-12-17T14:52:22.895-08:002016-12-17T14:52:22.895-08:00I'm a native of Salem, MA. The entire city is...I'm a native of Salem, MA. The entire city is basically a haunted mansion. We do have a cemetery outside of an old church in which the tombstones are too crowded to possibly have bodies underneath them. This is because they built the church in the space the cemetery used to be and moved only the stones and not the bodies to the front lawn of the church during the building phase. Obviously, that church is one of the many buildings said to be haunted in the city. What if the entire mansion is built on the old site of the berm cemetery and that's why it's haunted?<br /><br />-MelAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4444762441887107389.post-9481295347485375122016-12-11T11:30:22.874-08:002016-12-11T11:30:22.874-08:00You're welcome, and love the nic.You're welcome, and love the nic.HBG2https://www.blogger.com/profile/05073387557562504315noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4444762441887107389.post-43967256648797042922016-12-11T09:37:34.668-08:002016-12-11T09:37:34.668-08:00I recently went on a walk through of the mansion. ...I recently went on a walk through of the mansion. Stood in the ballroom, looked at heaps of details. It totally blew me away! I saw so many fascinating things on this tour through the mansion, and noticed so many from your blog. Thanks for sharing information with all of us people who are crazy about the mansion and want to know more!Requiem Bellenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4444762441887107389.post-706190812588142552016-11-10T10:06:53.887-08:002016-11-10T10:06:53.887-08:00I imagine maybe on this steep slope in the deep so...I imagine maybe on this steep slope in the deep south, after several years of rain and neglect, the tomb stones have slid down the slope and away from their original locations... maybe.Brandon Starrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08763671148763486079noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4444762441887107389.post-52165384447300009582016-11-05T23:45:13.990-07:002016-11-05T23:45:13.990-07:00What kind of "successful move" could the...What kind of "successful move" could they have hoped for but failed to attain? Someone put a pair of tombstones where there is no place for a grave anywhere near them.HBG2https://www.blogger.com/profile/05073387557562504315noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4444762441887107389.post-8912018243395062512016-11-05T15:20:58.194-07:002016-11-05T15:20:58.194-07:00Might it be possible to explain the lack of space ...Might it be possible to explain the lack of space to contain the 'bodies' by claiming the stones had been removed from their original resting place in an unsuccessful cemetery move? The deceased could have fully decomposed leaving no remains left to relocate?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03961767571277304773noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4444762441887107389.post-10909585041443707462016-11-03T23:41:57.349-07:002016-11-03T23:41:57.349-07:00I'm not sure what you're referring to.I'm not sure what you're referring to.HBG2https://www.blogger.com/profile/05073387557562504315noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4444762441887107389.post-33402642181504057272016-11-03T20:49:00.929-07:002016-11-03T20:49:00.929-07:00It Nash come to my attention that there is a alter...It Nash come to my attention that there is a alternate audio for the haunted mansion. Do you know anything more about that I've listened to it but I was wondering why they didn't use it?Hqhqhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02288235662205237261noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4444762441887107389.post-19893524286281979162016-10-27T04:17:49.052-07:002016-10-27T04:17:49.052-07:00I'm so glad to have you back, and good job. I&...I'm so glad to have you back, and good job. I'm glad to see not all is 'forgotten'Johnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14761693978806671256noreply@blogger.com