tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4444762441887107389.post7788103065305172083..comments2024-03-07T09:25:09.142-08:00Comments on Long-Forgotten: The Burning MiserHBG2http://www.blogger.com/profile/05073387557562504315noreply@blogger.comBlogger32125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4444762441887107389.post-70450935478027032972023-05-15T23:29:27.370-07:002023-05-15T23:29:27.370-07:00The Burning Miser is one of my favorite unused por...The Burning Miser is one of my favorite unused portraits, still wish he made the cut. Interestingly, I found out he was planned to be the antagonist of an animated HM movie that was planned before the live action route was taken. His henchman was going to be the Candle Man. Now that would've been interesting to see.chris_m19https://www.blogger.com/profile/04741040080523355924noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4444762441887107389.post-82833721106006000442015-10-25T19:59:42.532-07:002015-10-25T19:59:42.532-07:00I'm...more than a little embarrassed. Sorry f...I'm...more than a little embarrassed. Sorry for being presumptuous. jfgibson73https://www.blogger.com/profile/14769213237765348175noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4444762441887107389.post-16211540046686503442015-10-24T18:48:07.989-07:002015-10-24T18:48:07.989-07:00I'm afraid my connections aren't quite tha...I'm afraid my connections aren't quite <i>that</i> good. Marc died in 2000.HBG2https://www.blogger.com/profile/05073387557562504315noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4444762441887107389.post-27194923041130745482015-10-24T17:36:34.854-07:002015-10-24T17:36:34.854-07:00Marc Davis was recently a guest on a podcast, so h...Marc Davis was recently a guest on a podcast, so he's apparently open to doing interviews. Why not try reaching out? You'd obviously have some amazing questions for him.jfgibson73https://www.blogger.com/profile/14769213237765348175noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4444762441887107389.post-54242082687911697832015-10-21T10:04:47.220-07:002015-10-21T10:04:47.220-07:00Just a red plastic heart with two light bulbs insi...Just a red plastic heart with two light bulbs inside, flashing back and forth.HBG2https://www.blogger.com/profile/05073387557562504315noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4444762441887107389.post-75331059781669216032015-10-21T09:56:02.970-07:002015-10-21T09:56:02.970-07:00What effect was used on the red heart for that mat...What effect was used on the red heart for that matter ? Was it a simple light bulb ? Or a special version of what you call the "Wall-E Bow" that was also used for the eyes of the first model ?<br /><br />(PS I'm not the same anonymous as the first one)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4444762441887107389.post-40386335867018878592015-10-13T16:31:50.805-07:002015-10-13T16:31:50.805-07:00The ghosts in the graveyard (plus the original HBG...The ghosts in the graveyard (plus the original HBG and Beating Heart) are dressed for the most part in "shower curtain" clear vinyl. The AA bodies are a hard shell of a plastic known as butyrate. The Imagineers found that clear butyrate has a ghostly glow under black light, so they just left the ghosts transparent, with mostly transparent clothes. The interior mechanics are therefore not covered, but they are hard to see in the dark.<br /><br />The bride also wore shower-curtain vinyl clothes and had a butyrate body, but inside it was bluish and bubble-filled solid plastic, along with strings of pulsing lights and of course the red heart.HBG2https://www.blogger.com/profile/05073387557562504315noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4444762441887107389.post-89571310434446441672015-10-12T23:01:15.493-07:002015-10-12T23:01:15.493-07:00Hi! I don't know how to leave a message excep...Hi! I don't know how to leave a message except as a comment. I love your website and I learned a lot, and it's answered every question about the Haunted Mansion that I've ever had. Now whenever I visit it, I can't help but think of all the trivia I've read on your website.<br /><br />If you're still scrounging around for things to write about, I found something strange about the flash photos of the Beating Heart Bride -- what is her dress made of? It seems to be made out of...clear plastic? Her body structure is visible underneath. But in the dark of the ride, with the blacklighting, her dress seems opaque. What gives? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4444762441887107389.post-42804864991061548212015-10-04T08:13:42.168-07:002015-10-04T08:13:42.168-07:00In the summer-1969 WED official summary of the rid...In the summer-1969 WED official summary of the ride by Frank Allnutt, the ghosts floating into the ballroom from the hearse are described as "Dickensesque." In fact, many of the ghosts in the ballroom and the graveyard are dressed in the clothing of the Dickens era and look like they could have stepped out of a Dickens novel, but only one has an official name: the one wearing a hat in the style known as a "pickwick." He's wearing it in the concept sketch. That is almost certainly how he got his name.HBG2https://www.blogger.com/profile/05073387557562504315noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4444762441887107389.post-8590970261044061212015-10-04T06:06:48.362-07:002015-10-04T06:06:48.362-07:00It's not just the hat. His style of dress and...It's not just the hat. His style of dress and overall appearance look like he stepped right out of the pages of the Dickens book - minus Mr. Pickwick's spectacles. I'm sure someone somewhere along the line noticed the resemblance to the character in the illustrations.Grinning Ghosthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09431989275349314467noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4444762441887107389.post-60794182831557617452015-10-02T11:38:24.286-07:002015-10-02T11:38:24.286-07:00Love the unearthing of yet another cryptic crypt! ...Love the unearthing of yet another cryptic crypt! Thanks for popping back in with a fresh body of intrigue for us to enjoy <3Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17406902089541974287noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4444762441887107389.post-63879158203866183672015-10-01T00:00:52.984-07:002015-10-01T00:00:52.984-07:00Actually, I don't know about everyone else, bu...Actually, I don't know about everyone else, but I think a series of mini-features on the paintings that were never used, but some details that were recycled into the mansion could be interesting.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4444762441887107389.post-54567748193331577682015-09-30T11:14:42.871-07:002015-09-30T11:14:42.871-07:00He probably had picked up the name well before tha...He probably had picked up the name well before that. The Marc Davis concept sketch of the chandelier ghosts shows him wearing that style of hat.HBG2https://www.blogger.com/profile/05073387557562504315noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4444762441887107389.post-24897686386130391242015-09-30T10:39:23.218-07:002015-09-30T10:39:23.218-07:00No - "Pickwick Assembly Figure 24" is th...No - "Pickwick Assembly Figure 24" is the name of the figure on the actual blueprint. He was the only officially named (on paper) character when the Mansion opened.Grinning Ghosthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09431989275349314467noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4444762441887107389.post-57690079304696894802015-09-30T10:10:45.386-07:002015-09-30T10:10:45.386-07:00I've been told that "Pickwick" refer...I've been told that "Pickwick" refers to the style of hat the ghost is wearing (at DL at least). The Pickwick hat did get its name from the illustrations in the Dickens novel, but in this case the Dickens-HM connection would be a very indirect influence.HBG2https://www.blogger.com/profile/05073387557562504315noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4444762441887107389.post-48611872310695067022015-09-30T04:28:43.285-07:002015-09-30T04:28:43.285-07:00The heavyset man hanging on the Ballroom chandelie...The heavyset man hanging on the Ballroom chandelier is officially named "Pickwick", after the Dickens character of Mr. Pickwick.Grinning Ghosthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09431989275349314467noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4444762441887107389.post-39860621591616566502015-09-29T21:15:18.319-07:002015-09-29T21:15:18.319-07:00They are similar in many ways, but I'm not sur...They are similar in many ways, but I'm not sure the outfit is distinctive enough for the similarities to be something other than coincidence. I don't know why they would want to make butlers look like millionaires or vice versa.HBG2https://www.blogger.com/profile/05073387557562504315noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4444762441887107389.post-57788295602140560082015-09-29T19:38:12.201-07:002015-09-29T19:38:12.201-07:00Is there any chance that the Miser was the inspira...Is there any chance that the Miser was the inspiration for the cast member uniform at the Mansion? That green suit looks AWFULLY familiar... Tabbicusnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4444762441887107389.post-33361545880388353662015-09-26T14:27:45.787-07:002015-09-26T14:27:45.787-07:00I have a glow-in-the-dark HM Card Deck, it has Dis...I have a glow-in-the-dark HM Card Deck, it has Disneyland all over it like you said. It was 20 dollars on Amazon, so they aren't that rare.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4444762441887107389.post-13063188836396861502015-09-24T10:15:21.356-07:002015-09-24T10:15:21.356-07:00Interesting ! I also would like to point that that...Interesting ! I also would like to point that that doesn't necessarily mean that this second version of the devil is badly done. In my opinion, perhaps he's unrealistic to make people think that he appears under the form of the smoke of the fire… hence the blue skin by the same way. Achille Talonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11636339293230261724noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4444762441887107389.post-39308895794592753972015-09-24T00:09:08.267-07:002015-09-24T00:09:08.267-07:00If there's anything to your recollections, tha...If there's anything to your recollections, that would only be further evidence that the Burning Miser concept got quite far before being dropped.HBG2https://www.blogger.com/profile/05073387557562504315noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4444762441887107389.post-12534773287015711542015-09-23T17:52:11.976-07:002015-09-23T17:52:11.976-07:00This is the second time I've heard of a Charle...This is the second time I've heard of a Charles Dickens book having an influence on the Mansion. I've also heard that some of the descriptions from Great Expectations sound a lot like the ballroom and attic scenes. Maybe there are more?jfgibson73https://www.blogger.com/profile/14769213237765348175noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4444762441887107389.post-80577975553527620392015-09-23T15:48:09.173-07:002015-09-23T15:48:09.173-07:00I swear I've seen a more realistic painting of...I swear I've seen a more realistic painting of the miser in his "before" stage somewhere, and an alternate version of the "after" stage, in which a demon arm places the SOLD sign over the chair instead of the full Mephistopheles figureAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4444762441887107389.post-82419036656309498632015-09-23T12:58:06.827-07:002015-09-23T12:58:06.827-07:00I checked my source, and he agrees that the blue d...I checked my source, and he agrees that the blue devil could have been painted by someone other than Davis. There's no evidence to be derived either way based on the source of the artwork. I agree that it doesn't have a "Marc Davis" look to it, and I entertained the possibility that it was done by Ed Kohn. Based on my own initial reaction, what you say in your comment, and what my source says, I think it's a real possibility, and I've updated the post appropriately. Thanks for your insights.HBG2https://www.blogger.com/profile/05073387557562504315noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4444762441887107389.post-21223978854054275492015-09-23T00:50:40.849-07:002015-09-23T00:50:40.849-07:00So what's the source of the "blue devil&q...So what's the source of the "blue devil" version of the painting? Are we sure Davis really painted it? I'm mostly familiar with his pen and watercolor work, but even in a medium that I'm not wholly familiar with it seems strange that he would stray so far from the original face, which is classic Davis and wind up with a new face that is poorly proportioned. The mouth is not where it should be; it's too low on the chin. And the arms in the blue devil version no longer are anatomically correct. Even with all of the drapery of the cloak Davis has masterfully arranged the original devils arms so that they are connected to his shoulders and show his weight resting on the back of the chair. In the blue devil that structure is as absent as the consumed Miser. The more I look at the Blue Devil, the more I'm convinced that Davis didn't paint this image, and that whoever did didn't even take the care to at least trace Marc's original to forge the new version.Eric Scaleshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12149591952925380521noreply@blogger.com