tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-44447624418871073892024-03-15T18:09:40.043-07:00Long-Forgotten
Explorations of Disney's Haunted Mansion.
Ruminations and revelations concerning the history and artistry of the Disney parks' richest and most eccentric masterpiece.HBG2http://www.blogger.com/profile/05073387557562504315noreply@blogger.comBlogger173125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4444762441887107389.post-56214424941943412272023-12-11T22:40:00.000-08:002024-03-10T13:45:24.545-07:00The New Hatbox Ghost in Orlando<p>As everybody in the Mansionite universe knows by now, the Hatbox Ghost made his debut in the WDW HM on November 30, 2023.</p><p style="text-align: center;"><span style="font-size: large;">After:</span></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiBSuuvSvpHsIMV0Uz4JGe3JdYwYgM9ym479HLu3MOkkuFRGcj4wpLUjy_JL3hD-VBqilbrVZVLJAW9GzFlnGYsBJRAV8mCVQnmUSgXNLRul1qPUmatHthj013efrhOp2h0Xx92OwWmUWwMoy3K2PRmSJENtFJCVQ9uk20HruxqsESqXbarFFAYeoyBEmpe/s1247/main.png" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="830" data-original-width="1247" height="426" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiBSuuvSvpHsIMV0Uz4JGe3JdYwYgM9ym479HLu3MOkkuFRGcj4wpLUjy_JL3hD-VBqilbrVZVLJAW9GzFlnGYsBJRAV8mCVQnmUSgXNLRul1qPUmatHthj013efrhOp2h0Xx92OwWmUWwMoy3K2PRmSJENtFJCVQ9uk20HruxqsESqXbarFFAYeoyBEmpe/w640-h426/main.png" width="640" /></a></div><div><br /></div><div style="text-align: center;"><span style="font-size: large;">Before...</span></div><div><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhvr3UhZlXcW__h7KJKmRPwg7lPMebzigcMgIZet_Lc1xyrruoaM_tHjcX6HlRBpJGfGlL_oVFhHm4CTyWw-45rd0SX89_gyaenjoq93KkvDAagp2xzFi_RDXYR108-epDNkckoJoPKGSLyvW7V5MsEBmEZMBkEOYwXGGE0Cl8EGkSsoNwvyyCAJArksQcf/s1000/Haunted-Mansion-Hallway-Cliff-Wang.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="562" data-original-width="1000" height="360" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhvr3UhZlXcW__h7KJKmRPwg7lPMebzigcMgIZet_Lc1xyrruoaM_tHjcX6HlRBpJGfGlL_oVFhHm4CTyWw-45rd0SX89_gyaenjoq93KkvDAagp2xzFi_RDXYR108-epDNkckoJoPKGSLyvW7V5MsEBmEZMBkEOYwXGGE0Cl8EGkSsoNwvyyCAJArksQcf/w640-h360/Haunted-Mansion-Hallway-Cliff-Wang.jpg" width="640" /></a></div><br /><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEggip4X5VM7M2lY5ErEIWEQYFcjk48LsKVdFymP6nmBP5UENV_QxpFmI4h9-TRVn96cRpJ4yg65oAGFbqay5biSy9evmuVYIPimwVA-gCoFs6lyDvQOBm6dZko2GIbL2nTzBIPBCZsD92fpk6NKEJwQZLRiu4icA5JlTgd4VSO80XaLsAhp6_7Lvxi4MCFs/s758/Screen%20Shot%202023-12-07%20at%202.35.51%20PM.png" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="491" data-original-width="758" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEggip4X5VM7M2lY5ErEIWEQYFcjk48LsKVdFymP6nmBP5UENV_QxpFmI4h9-TRVn96cRpJ4yg65oAGFbqay5biSy9evmuVYIPimwVA-gCoFs6lyDvQOBm6dZko2GIbL2nTzBIPBCZsD92fpk6NKEJwQZLRiu4icA5JlTgd4VSO80XaLsAhp6_7Lvxi4MCFs/s16000/Screen%20Shot%202023-12-07%20at%202.35.51%20PM.png" /></a></div><br /><div>RIP to the "Donald Duck" chair.</div><div><br /></div><div><span style="color: red;">UPDATE (March 2, 2024).</span> The obvious question is why he was installed here and not just outside the attic like he is in Anaheim, only a few yards from where the original HBG stood. At first glance, it looks like the WDW location is a deliberate movie tie-in. As most of you know, in the 2023 movie the HBG makes his first appearance in the Endless Hallway:</div><div><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjWUPnqy-lusATpwlQOECxErAHWg0PnxdvejA4WG5OaxnpXEk-T37Pk3nZAPUtYiqMVn457apPcPHqDHouI1f4t5zIS9XVWA-hZGyKFrY-A539p1fAQ5dDLDS9m6qLjpo5lR-fkidVQTVCC4eYVPB46rqMM6D_Mga7MujnF9xm7TQuTwc6snAjxZm8bpyOZ/s990/Haunted-Mansion-Movie.png" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="460" data-original-width="990" height="298" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjWUPnqy-lusATpwlQOECxErAHWg0PnxdvejA4WG5OaxnpXEk-T37Pk3nZAPUtYiqMVn457apPcPHqDHouI1f4t5zIS9XVWA-hZGyKFrY-A539p1fAQ5dDLDS9m6qLjpo5lR-fkidVQTVCC4eYVPB46rqMM6D_Mga7MujnF9xm7TQuTwc6snAjxZm8bpyOZ/w640-h298/Haunted-Mansion-Movie.png" width="640" /></a></div><br /><div>And my eyes may be playing tricks, but it <i>does</i> look to me like the animation in the face of the new HBG makes him look more like the movie version. If so, it's quite subtle.</div><div><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEirf7S3KWLOv389m5UvgmuEE0IMShRhH0uTYvQe-SZnlR8BCfJh7XFWSdaJAvlV9kIfqMK2ARWKDss69le2bBXC39yNWuFChC7Ind9BVsr7MybVBzge5ABB49vzddr5M3Drk-mbDwbRWTGkYXJh1bbdflSZ0ZfxtIIqfMdNhsXqvVwFv-mq9SOWbRRK723b/s974/haunted-mansion-trailer-jared-leto-051623-1-41c11e4e50454d25afeaa1f5cfa56350.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="974" data-original-width="734" height="400" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEirf7S3KWLOv389m5UvgmuEE0IMShRhH0uTYvQe-SZnlR8BCfJh7XFWSdaJAvlV9kIfqMK2ARWKDss69le2bBXC39yNWuFChC7Ind9BVsr7MybVBzge5ABB49vzddr5M3Drk-mbDwbRWTGkYXJh1bbdflSZ0ZfxtIIqfMdNhsXqvVwFv-mq9SOWbRRK723b/w301-h400/haunted-mansion-trailer-jared-leto-051623-1-41c11e4e50454d25afeaa1f5cfa56350.jpg" width="301" /></a></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjDzFXClqxNTzlNitiiSMoWAL9qpAuVl8oYA37Gx6fmJ5BnpCBpWpqBiIt_DpID7t2qN06YjVS0Ria1ol8Te_7An2usSJNFC692Ep6quidO9RRK9A9OdfmJjGSOtBwxQyOn3A6fmng0JaINL4tu2twY_BmUCz4Qlk9HVy-crvxUWWaX7FTXH11Sh_552nR2/s1026/movie%20look.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="1026" data-original-width="828" height="640" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjDzFXClqxNTzlNitiiSMoWAL9qpAuVl8oYA37Gx6fmJ5BnpCBpWpqBiIt_DpID7t2qN06YjVS0Ria1ol8Te_7An2usSJNFC692Ep6quidO9RRK9A9OdfmJjGSOtBwxQyOn3A6fmng0JaINL4tu2twY_BmUCz4Qlk9HVy-crvxUWWaX7FTXH11Sh_552nR2/w516-h640/movie%20look.jpg" width="516" /></a></div><br /><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><span style="text-align: left;">Not only that, but the knick-knacks on the shelf over Hattie's head (which is there</span></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><span style="text-align: left;">to </span><span style="text-align: left;">camouflage the top of a new access panel) are actual props from the 2023 movie.</span></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj41JG-qKgNyB7qpiklTu0lZoe0fK72rQCoTJlsVYJ7vux5rHpcjoxWIi4Jq9kzuULQ-4i0d2YkOyQa_cUWmO8J39t8bagAEHCb48p5R1PBpovtFzFP0wCmPfBANRLCFaaMxHxxxTQSddsMKEpOTqLhNTqCqaTlNnL7TJtwRsXmo8oGsB_vfilrN3vZLVQO/s797/Screen%20Shot%202024-03-05%20at%201.22.26%20PM.png" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="505" data-original-width="797" height="406" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj41JG-qKgNyB7qpiklTu0lZoe0fK72rQCoTJlsVYJ7vux5rHpcjoxWIi4Jq9kzuULQ-4i0d2YkOyQa_cUWmO8J39t8bagAEHCb48p5R1PBpovtFzFP0wCmPfBANRLCFaaMxHxxxTQSddsMKEpOTqLhNTqCqaTlNnL7TJtwRsXmo8oGsB_vfilrN3vZLVQO/w640-h406/Screen%20Shot%202024-03-05%20at%201.22.26%20PM.png" width="640" /></a></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEi8wf6QLTm2KNa4_yAHdupHZoxUA87DxG5VvvcxjHrOeN7iJmzeIMEPJZqDfDWDtw-XLgoC2lSp7xNyTGGfcp71rIpZAHcZQleeNaiG2aWdpQjEslhkkOnI7BseU_mL2fkhHjtMlbxVcu-V0EP1JWeIBYkkkMVxKF_Dg6QRn2FvuhA1YNC1hwKrj0JkRvQM/s972/Screen%20Shot%202024-03-05%20at%201.23.00%20PM.png" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="519" data-original-width="972" height="342" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEi8wf6QLTm2KNa4_yAHdupHZoxUA87DxG5VvvcxjHrOeN7iJmzeIMEPJZqDfDWDtw-XLgoC2lSp7xNyTGGfcp71rIpZAHcZQleeNaiG2aWdpQjEslhkkOnI7BseU_mL2fkhHjtMlbxVcu-V0EP1JWeIBYkkkMVxKF_Dg6QRn2FvuhA1YNC1hwKrj0JkRvQM/w640-h342/Screen%20Shot%202024-03-05%20at%201.23.00%20PM.png" width="640" /></a></div><br /><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;">HOWEVER, I've been assured by extremely reliable sources that this really is an amazing coincidence and no more, that the location has <i>nothing</i> to do with the movie. I'm not at liberty to say much more about the actual reason why he wasn't put into the same spot as he is in the DL ride, but I am assured that it's rather humdrum stuff having to do with things like structural upgrades and building codes, prohibitive costs, and blah blah blah. At the same time, there was nothing that required he be put HERE rather than somewhere else like the ballroom or graveyard. If it had been up to me, and the attic and porch were ruled out, I'd have put him where the Caretaker is and moved the Caretaker across the track into a newly-created vantage point among the trees on your right side as you descend.</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;">This location is an abomination. One of the eeriest and most hypnotic tableaux in the entire ride now has a three-ring circus inches away. No one can deny that the Endless Hallway is thoroughly upstaged and the atmosphere is destroyed. That alone is reason enough to hate this thing.</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><span style="color: #93c47d; font-size: large;">The Three-Act Play (Again)</span></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;">The other problem, of course, is the violation of the 3-Act show that is the Haunted Mansion. That 3-Act thing is NOT "backstory."<b><i> It IS the story</i></b>. It is simply an outline of the actual show that is there. But you guys know all that. If anyone needs a more in-depth introduction to the 3-Act play, go <a href="https://longforgottenhauntedmansion.blogspot.com/2010/05/things-fall-apart-centre-cannot-hold.html" target="_blank">HERE</a>. The only thing I would add to that is the caution that even Imagineers and other HM experts have routinely gotten the outline of the three acts wrong.</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;">Act One is everything before Leota.</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;">Act Two is Leota.</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;">Act Three is everything after Leota.</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;">Here's Jason Surrell's discussion, but he's not the only one who can't find the correct break between Act Two and Act Three:</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiqioIfp3DOLof8GxtLWmIAuz2gPxFgYDL7yQLdr7wVJGnigytCzSmqwBDRDl3hY4fWs0byywTTrqO4lfgWnm7cGPzMpvJHBIAaNm4itqwxBj9wVofAHFHQNZrCnVjOTLJQFHfW_SgiKRxJQS_UgtK7mQOkJB2i3QSoj7KI7xev9t17XHbR0x6Qa3TR1w-s/s688/3-%20act%20play%20%20copy.png" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="261" data-original-width="688" height="242" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiqioIfp3DOLof8GxtLWmIAuz2gPxFgYDL7yQLdr7wVJGnigytCzSmqwBDRDl3hY4fWs0byywTTrqO4lfgWnm7cGPzMpvJHBIAaNm4itqwxBj9wVofAHFHQNZrCnVjOTLJQFHfW_SgiKRxJQS_UgtK7mQOkJB2i3QSoj7KI7xev9t17XHbR0x6Qa3TR1w-s/w640-h242/3-%20act%20play%20%20copy.png" width="640" /></a></div><br /><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;">You can find evidence for the 3-Act structure in the early 70's. If you read attentively this Vacationland article (Fall-Winter, 1974-75), you can detect the 3-Act outline underlying its description of the ride:</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg7UsDQlWtqANS1I0bZ2z-XAGH72ubOIY7BuLX9ZxdFjMWa-IGKHCYPYXoG0g7FofVsFDlNdfKwlfhogXCeqvXVqQ8qYDiaXqlo-PYz8iahNvvykdBxcrAPeYQE4f5tN2jYRZBVXzxs709K7B-1Oliz-C_QWQ8J-Y6V3ZLrIhbqVZ6wfZTS9ueCdfabiP_M/s1600/Vacationland%20Fall-Winter%201974-75_12.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="1600" data-original-width="1214" height="640" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg7UsDQlWtqANS1I0bZ2z-XAGH72ubOIY7BuLX9ZxdFjMWa-IGKHCYPYXoG0g7FofVsFDlNdfKwlfhogXCeqvXVqQ8qYDiaXqlo-PYz8iahNvvykdBxcrAPeYQE4f5tN2jYRZBVXzxs709K7B-1Oliz-C_QWQ8J-Y6V3ZLrIhbqVZ6wfZTS9ueCdfabiP_M/w486-h640/Vacationland%20Fall-Winter%201974-75_12.jpg" width="486" /></a></div><br /><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;">The same team of Imagineers who gave us the 2015 HBG gave us the 2023 version as well, but I don't hold it against them personally. They have to do what they're told to do, and if they don't like it but want to keep their jobs, they have to shut up. What is abundantly clear is that the team was well aware that no ghosts are supposed to be visible before Leota. The official excuse is that the HBG is an "unhappy haunt" and can materialize whenever and wherever. He has no need of Mdm L's assistance.</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;">This is weak tea, of course. After the Ghost Host has explained that the place is a retirement home for ghosts and calls them "happy haunts," it quickly becomes apparent that they are not happy at all. In the original monologue in the Corridor of Doors, the GH concedes the point:</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><i><span style="color: #f1c232; font-size: medium;">"All our ghosts have been dying to meet you. This one can hardly contain himself."</span></i></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><i><span style="color: #f1c232; font-size: medium;"><br /></span></i></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><i><span style="color: #f1c232; font-size: medium;">"Unfortunately, they all seem to have trouble getting through. Perhaps Madame Leota can establish contact. She has a remarkable head for materializing the disembodied."</span></i></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><i><span style="color: #f1c232; font-size: medium;"><br /></span></i></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;">All. They're ALL "unhappy haunts" until Leota does her thing. Saying that the Hatbox Ghost is an U.H. doesn't really distinguish him much, does it? These lines, by the way, have an interesting history. They were there in the beginning. I distinctly remember them from August 14, 1969. But you don't have to take my word for it. Keith Murray rode the ride at the press preview August 12 and published his review in the Pasadena Star News on Wednesday the 13th. In it, he quotes some of these lines from memory:</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhfs3hHYFKyWbienUNoqPHO4Gn65wXUZl-Y5_WCnV6FZj4kcjeKOZl9_kZactzhMjJe-cjbEnpAITfdwmLBl3j4hgzUxGWP1oANNe7TBsla_tvlmSeSw8Df2wzLGcp48T_9ZFwDF1lULvST6sQc4neW7KcKFEZ38VHykoEic_peblYORbhmuXmo178wMLKh/s304/%22Dying%20to%20see%20you%22.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="172" data-original-width="304" height="181" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhfs3hHYFKyWbienUNoqPHO4Gn65wXUZl-Y5_WCnV6FZj4kcjeKOZl9_kZactzhMjJe-cjbEnpAITfdwmLBl3j4hgzUxGWP1oANNe7TBsla_tvlmSeSw8Df2wzLGcp48T_9ZFwDF1lULvST6sQc4neW7KcKFEZ38VHykoEic_peblYORbhmuXmo178wMLKh/w320-h181/%22Dying%20to%20see%20you%22.jpg" width="320" /></a></div><br /><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;">The later history of this COD monologue is most curious. They were in and out and in and out:</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><span style="color: #e06666; font-size: medium;"><span> </span>1) Aug 1969—ca. Sept 1969</span><span style="caret-color: rgb(32, 18, 77); color: #20124d; font-size: medium;">........................................</span><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="color: #e06666;">Lines are in (less than a month)</span></span></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><span style="color: #e06666; font-size: medium;"><span> </span>2) ca. Sept 1969—Sept 1995</span><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="color: #20124d;">.......................................</span><span style="color: #e06666;">Lines are out (26 years)</span></span></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><span><span style="color: #e06666; font-size: medium;"><span> </span>3) Sept 1995—May 2006</span><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="color: #20124d;">............................................</span><span style="color: #e06666;"><span><span>Lines are in (11 years)</span></span></span><span style="color: #e06666;"><span></span></span></span></span></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><span><span><span><span><span style="color: #e06666; font-size: medium;"><span> </span>4) May 2006—Jan 2008</span><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="color: #20124d;">.............................................</span><span style="color: #e06666;">Lines are out (2 years)</span></span></span></span></span></span></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><span><span><span><span><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="color: #e06666;"><span> 5) Jan 2008 and Jan—June of 2012</span></span></span></span></span></span></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(32, 18, 77); color: #20124d;">............ .. ....... .....</span><span style="color: #e06666;">Lines are sorta... kinda... (See below)</span></span></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><span><span><span><span><span><span><br /></span></span></span></span></span></span></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><span><span><span><span>Things were weird during <span style="color: #e06666;">Jan 2008</span> and <span style="color: #e06666;">between Jan and June of 2012</span>. You need to know that the GH monologue is repeated every three doombuggies, and during these two time periods it would sometimes be the case that a triad of doombuggies would omit the earlier, "We find it delightfully unlivable..." spiel but include the "All our ghosts ... contain himself" line, while the <i>following</i> triad of buggies experienced exactly the reverse of this! And none of them included the Leota lines.<span style="color: #b6d7a8;">* </span></span></span></span></span>It all had something to do with a fluky problem during the switchover from HMH back to the regular HM show. Either that or pranky spirits. Since 2012 (as far as I know), the COD lines have been out.</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><span><span><span><span><br /></span></span></span></span></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><span><span><span><span>Someone during the major 1995 rehab apparently said, "Hey, why were these lines deleted? Let's put them back in." A stern email went out in May of 2006 from the very top of the food chain at WDI with the "request to permanently delete" the COD lines, and this—<i>ahem—</i>"request" included a warning: "If there is an incident where someone intentionally or accidentally reactivates them ... we will be forced to remove them entirely." Yikes. The <i>next day</i> they were out, so the leaked email was no hoax.</span></span></span></span></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><span><span><span><span><br /></span></span></span></span></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><span><span><span><span>Even though they've now been utterly gone more than a decade, virtually all of the ride-thru souvenir CDs and whatnot that have been sold over the years include them. Every Mansion freak knows about them. They're "canon," if you want to use that term, and they ought to put to rest any doubts about whether the 3-Act play is really the story of the ride.</span></span></span></span></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><span><span><span><span><span><span><br /></span></span></span></span></span></span></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><span style="color: #93c47d; font-size: large;">Shoehorning in the Hatbox Ghost</span></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;">The 2023 team had to make lemonade out of the lemons the Top Men handed them. The best they could do is declare him an U.H. independent of the predicament Leota and she alone can solve. They have also gone out of their way to make it as clear as they can that the HBG is an <i>intruder</i> in the ride, an interloper, a party crasher, an uninvited guest. His luggage has been dumped unceremoniously in the Endless Hallway (there's a trunk there, not just extra hatboxes), and there are muddy footprints indicating that he's come in the side door, dropped off his stuff (a hand truck with extra hatboxes, like at Disneyland), and he's returned to the door and turned around to look at you. The footprints are already there in the concept art:</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg9RuT5UndQZCr6zipvZWeq5KcoJFEr0VO9VJTxjeyD6aWFOXUyD5fuYJFxZBwZiL0PoAttH34FyLc0FvP5I0L64YAlelbnB1rPY0Gb5-41lcdu-EhF5b_hy-h1l_jglCwWRBIMehfkE_ETW8SKoe7skQXPc3G-lpidkM9zgC2E8yDU1PE7QG9VsXoURnse/s2048/concept.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="1244" data-original-width="2048" height="388" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg9RuT5UndQZCr6zipvZWeq5KcoJFEr0VO9VJTxjeyD6aWFOXUyD5fuYJFxZBwZiL0PoAttH34FyLc0FvP5I0L64YAlelbnB1rPY0Gb5-41lcdu-EhF5b_hy-h1l_jglCwWRBIMehfkE_ETW8SKoe7skQXPc3G-lpidkM9zgC2E8yDU1PE7QG9VsXoURnse/w640-h388/concept.jpg" width="640" /></a></div><br /><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;">But they're more conspicuous in the ride, and the double-tracking (back and forth) is also clear.</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEixKImp_f9AyYq9Gmx5IPa6uFdzFM2CX-pvNGCZMoVVyYWHnjonde_jITlLrL686ZGltFhyphenhyphenAgk0TAAkZeuDYfHtsefPxspzhjELY4gUYCoIab6I2Ij9E2MtQm0yg95mvRaAquumKb-sjIv9Ax6AZqhg-Mga1ea0DXy4v8_7rFZpmGVqmJzJ3nWJUyxdqesd/s582/footprintz.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="323" data-original-width="582" height="356" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEixKImp_f9AyYq9Gmx5IPa6uFdzFM2CX-pvNGCZMoVVyYWHnjonde_jITlLrL686ZGltFhyphenhyphenAgk0TAAkZeuDYfHtsefPxspzhjELY4gUYCoIab6I2Ij9E2MtQm0yg95mvRaAquumKb-sjIv9Ax6AZqhg-Mga1ea0DXy4v8_7rFZpmGVqmJzJ3nWJUyxdqesd/w640-h356/footprintz.jpg" width="640" /></a></div><div><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhQovWPpLMHEhXJJPTw8SUJIegmxLGamCJHW2vcVrQA5PCMP_Xa-hJNtcyd42LAQtUJuHHiqEnz8ITxu8Qi1b5Tuq01tSNfCBsfzZU7rPhzqSUm31dA8O8U0Kq3nBg5rPD4IPfOkvVOSAbLvCebgtCROTRIGosl0rqjp_zKD4dAMZWRq03SK6D5ljM1U7WS/s850/Screen%20Shot%202024-03-10%20at%201.40.13%20PM.png" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="850" data-original-width="637" height="640" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhQovWPpLMHEhXJJPTw8SUJIegmxLGamCJHW2vcVrQA5PCMP_Xa-hJNtcyd42LAQtUJuHHiqEnz8ITxu8Qi1b5Tuq01tSNfCBsfzZU7rPhzqSUm31dA8O8U0Kq3nBg5rPD4IPfOkvVOSAbLvCebgtCROTRIGosl0rqjp_zKD4dAMZWRq03SK6D5ljM1U7WS/w480-h640/Screen%20Shot%202024-03-10%20at%201.40.13%20PM.png" width="480" /></a></div><div style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #b4a7d6;">pic by travel__time</span></div><br /><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;">The whole thing is theoretically possible, story-wise, because the nature of the problem that only Leota can fix is never explained. Some kind of curse, perhaps? In that <a href="https://longforgottenhauntedmansion.blogspot.com/2010/05/things-fall-apart-centre-cannot-hold.html" target="_blank">earlier LF article</a>, I offered my own explanation, which I still think makes good sense, but nothing in the ride is explicit on this point, so yes, it <i>can</i> be argued that the HBG has managed not to get stuck in the Act One predicament. Evidently he has evaded the problem because he was never invited to join the retirement home of happy haunts and has barged in anyway. That must mean that the retirement home invitation had a metaphysical flaw in it that turned the Mansion into a trap. Once they moved in, they found that they could not materialize.</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;">All of this opens doors to more unwanted and unnecessary backstory, of course. Many HM fans will be thrilled at the prospect. Me? I thought the WDW HM was <a href="https://longforgottenhauntedmansion.blogspot.com/2011/05/decadence.html" target="_blank">ruined in 2011</a>, so this is just one more reason to continue thinking so. The Endless Hallway scene has been spoiled, and they had to have known it would be spoiled. Anyone with two functioning brain cells could have foreseen that. But they went ahead anyway. That alone tells you all you need to know. Sorry for being such a downer, Floridians, but that's my honest opinion.</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><span style="color: #b6d7a8;"><span style="font-size: large;">*</span>A big hat tip to <b>bigcatrik</b> at Micechat for this info.</span></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><span style="color: #01ffff; font-size: x-large;">***********************</span></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div>HBG2http://www.blogger.com/profile/05073387557562504315noreply@blogger.com16tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4444762441887107389.post-82047686210432721572023-06-30T23:50:00.006-07:002023-07-04T10:31:26.357-07:00Crump and Davis: Lost Artwork and Long-Forgotten Collaborations<p>There's a dandy piece of unpublished Marc Davis HM artwork that I've had locked in my files forever because I have not been at liberty to show it. However, I got a second copy of it recently with permission from the owner to post it, so AT LAST y'all will see a wonderful changing portrait concept from the master himself.</p><p>It's been around since the end of 1964 at least. You can see it in the background of the "Tencenniel" program aired in January of 1965 in anticipation of DL's tenth anniversary.</p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg8aODdtmJQ3gr3bXTknHMixJbtvkTaK5q7VeN51aATYMfCtFX0n5jQ5KRoD3ukSNyRwcRfl1ndOVRZkbSS3-PzzDFxkp99A9QYJO9JUi-5gZgl_emO604PnIixgMVfsrzN2nYiOAmHo00VVQqqdcP3f8VJ9OfoGwkHKZCk81s8DEcsQvtGqYiDRBLfbwgp/s640/vlcsnap212294.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="480" data-original-width="640" height="480" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg8aODdtmJQ3gr3bXTknHMixJbtvkTaK5q7VeN51aATYMfCtFX0n5jQ5KRoD3ukSNyRwcRfl1ndOVRZkbSS3-PzzDFxkp99A9QYJO9JUi-5gZgl_emO604PnIixgMVfsrzN2nYiOAmHo00VVQqqdcP3f8VJ9OfoGwkHKZCk81s8DEcsQvtGqYiDRBLfbwgp/w640-h480/vlcsnap212294.jpg" width="640" /></a></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgJc8eURg11OGkV8xP3OsnBgSCHNLFmLdG8X5P-8Rq87bcyWRheJpAieXz8Vp-0i46JDKGlk8AmJ_cl7-8goLLELRQxW6bSukM8taphmQXgf9J6eQw9Q63Ht44UxMddhvLXpFx34y2cE5hkaIVHf74oafEmD6bbqBMHr51ZvNRmYUvzSd-BtG6LODtbRxJ0/s641/boiling%20hunter%20best%20copy%202.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="382" data-original-width="641" height="381" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgJc8eURg11OGkV8xP3OsnBgSCHNLFmLdG8X5P-8Rq87bcyWRheJpAieXz8Vp-0i46JDKGlk8AmJ_cl7-8goLLELRQxW6bSukM8taphmQXgf9J6eQw9Q63Ht44UxMddhvLXpFx34y2cE5hkaIVHf74oafEmD6bbqBMHr51ZvNRmYUvzSd-BtG6LODtbRxJ0/w640-h381/boiling%20hunter%20best%20copy%202.jpg" width="640" /></a></div><p>It's the "Great White Hunter" character. Apparently, Marc wanted to do a lot with this guy. He would have been a prominent denizen of the "<a href="https://longforgottenhauntedmansion.blogspot.com/2020/03/marc-daviss-haunted-mansion.html" target="_blank">Ghost Club Room</a>," where a retired sportsman like the GWH could relax and enjoy his afterlife. We've all seen this artwork a gazillion times...</p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgzTqUTR0mCwWiiQoNwH-7FBTmiLEWomUixw8-wvFoAGD3gihyY-ir3M6UoA3ZAL1PbCrnnwj2m01KbtizrtvJbXS9_DHuYYdiZT-194pKEdRaOFRppfTNYs-IbywKcZzwToKmIpDPzXzormeVjoZf2AaxTHLhUIhINU2CiwzXWvpJYbCU2qYAUMr3lKRGh/s852/great%20white%20hunter.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="685" data-original-width="852" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgzTqUTR0mCwWiiQoNwH-7FBTmiLEWomUixw8-wvFoAGD3gihyY-ir3M6UoA3ZAL1PbCrnnwj2m01KbtizrtvJbXS9_DHuYYdiZT-194pKEdRaOFRppfTNYs-IbywKcZzwToKmIpDPzXzormeVjoZf2AaxTHLhUIhINU2CiwzXWvpJYbCU2qYAUMr3lKRGh/s16000/great%20white%20hunter.jpg" /></a></div><p>For the gags that Marc had in mind involving the tiger rug, see the sketches <a href="https://longforgottenhauntedmansion.blogspot.com/2013/10/here-in-this-gallery.html" target="_blank">HERE</a>. Anyway, what I want to draw your attention to today is the picture over the mantelpiece.</p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhVpzuirWONtPOADun15xh_SqaixTrn7gEbT5FqsjkvvMmvnZk_zPv5vDR3_gFBKGTlsTHQRRdQoJoBmakVkAQcjmvo-4OZCFI7VkeIw0CK1_nVOdXlntlo5cztZjlgzGWJ6hY-q5oPSu6jB-IUpTTSgL3iDQebYdVR0kIMGJYwCPulaRXozOeQmpfwV_pa/s652/rhino%20small.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="652" data-original-width="555" height="640" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhVpzuirWONtPOADun15xh_SqaixTrn7gEbT5FqsjkvvMmvnZk_zPv5vDR3_gFBKGTlsTHQRRdQoJoBmakVkAQcjmvo-4OZCFI7VkeIw0CK1_nVOdXlntlo5cztZjlgzGWJ6hY-q5oPSu6jB-IUpTTSgL3iDQebYdVR0kIMGJYwCPulaRXozOeQmpfwV_pa/w544-h640/rhino%20small.jpg" width="544" /></a></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;">Before it was going to be a tiger, it was a rhino. Here's <b>another unpublished sketch</b>:</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiw7mDiLZbmS4miIHMx9s-Za2ivLPEMItMcCX55q_VnHE2U55GlINAq53KSjFAIZiFVNkQ0hDkmKAGpWu4i1-AKztHaGkj3g30FZmvIynajkCXRpJYo4oPv2JWwEfamVDfGVODOh7Ra3tY8qfRup-Q5f_j8d9ttAbwk8MxzNcvtUJTNZv-sXJyNnTYqLQKE/s713/rhino%20pix.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="713" data-original-width="581" height="640" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiw7mDiLZbmS4miIHMx9s-Za2ivLPEMItMcCX55q_VnHE2U55GlINAq53KSjFAIZiFVNkQ0hDkmKAGpWu4i1-AKztHaGkj3g30FZmvIynajkCXRpJYo4oPv2JWwEfamVDfGVODOh7Ra3tY8qfRup-Q5f_j8d9ttAbwk8MxzNcvtUJTNZv-sXJyNnTYqLQKE/w522-h640/rhino%20pix.jpg" width="522" /></a></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;">This might have been a concept sketch for a TALKING portrait rather than a changing portrait. Who knows where Marc wanted to take this gag. It's fun, knowing he created a character and had a number of different ideas about how to use him and how much. It turns out that the one well-known concept sketch of the tiger rug chomping on his butt was only the tip of the iceberg.</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;">Notice the picture frame in both of the above sketches. It's composed of slain animals in a sort of Gaston-ish decoration. It reminds me of this concept sketch from the dearly departed Rolly Crump.</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj-Z4t6WPDbfpNbeGYR7lTHx93xPyGy_eO0WT3nenGvcm32KrgwYUvlUG8N2QMIVNXDBzei9dRD8nA7AjXQRV-pvnvaG1k9H7S9yyKpt4s-7qnfEzAxYWmanMSJlr5z1RnIv3ICP1llwrHJdCkyXQ-mEDN8ifyVqjRvFB8-qgt2c_BSBy5pTQ-cUsJpFign/s824/rolly%20frame.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="824" data-original-width="394" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj-Z4t6WPDbfpNbeGYR7lTHx93xPyGy_eO0WT3nenGvcm32KrgwYUvlUG8N2QMIVNXDBzei9dRD8nA7AjXQRV-pvnvaG1k9H7S9yyKpt4s-7qnfEzAxYWmanMSJlr5z1RnIv3ICP1llwrHJdCkyXQ-mEDN8ifyVqjRvFB8-qgt2c_BSBy5pTQ-cUsJpFign/s16000/rolly%20frame.jpg" /></a></div><br /><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;">This is Museum of the Weird stuff, of course, but I have to wonder if Marc was inspired by Rolly or Rolly was inspired by Marc here, or if the resemblance is purely coincidental. (Note too Marc's water buffalo horns and Rolly's giant wings.) The "living doorframe" concept became a maquette at one point, by the way. See it behind the Coffin Clock maquette?</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhIYH5xGsWRV4Zs7jMPH132XJ6S0SAqxmJUO-1Qr3GRqAuayeZvjFNNQnhkkmM3LFFtp0Z4JSlj5wViBqvaXSF0U2ZTGwRSa-M3p9HYdfpcjH-3m7Y16rOYdyp0OoPvj5Eden_tZVuXR031NeUl8Bt85T8wAd_JAUmZpb2VyDo2xe6cj-TVTNGSvVgADpsl/s776/maquette%20door%20frame.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="776" data-original-width="650" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhIYH5xGsWRV4Zs7jMPH132XJ6S0SAqxmJUO-1Qr3GRqAuayeZvjFNNQnhkkmM3LFFtp0Z4JSlj5wViBqvaXSF0U2ZTGwRSa-M3p9HYdfpcjH-3m7Y16rOYdyp0OoPvj5Eden_tZVuXR031NeUl8Bt85T8wAd_JAUmZpb2VyDo2xe6cj-TVTNGSvVgADpsl/s16000/maquette%20door%20frame.jpg" /></a></div><br /><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;">Rolly and Marc worked together on the Tiki Room, <a href="https://longforgottenhauntedmansion.blogspot.com/2011/07/weirder-haunted-mansion.html" target="_blank">as we all know</a> (scroll down to Point 5), and we've talked before about the strange chemistry between two very dissimilar artists who nevertheless seemed to borrow ideas from each other. I like to think that it was Marc who got ideas for his macabre, pitiless (or PETA-less) picture frame in part from Rolly's surrealistic doorframe.</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;">I like to think so, because it means we can turn around and find an example of Rolly borrowing from Marc, in ANOTHER unpublished artwork. Well, technically not "unpublished," but unnoticed and unexplored. It's a full-sized, grayish-blue tombstone maquette over in Rolly's corner of the workshop and so probably a design of his. You can see it in at least three photos:</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgm5q8NLPzqUgeI_8u7RxXqPLYMDboubTbbmLkzygjStgJ_8R8BqBu2V8_fv_P6_w0cAeCKYHYFLp77Enk6F-QoUFsooi64UTJTaaR4AyWNcuUX4xQtHblTqhpOTtP-yqfv2rncCRDJHR_X921W6Z8VtN_-3VegMclkpuYO0j29ADUxxwM2A0EyWfTjvCNi/s2285/112_WED_Enterprises.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="1831" data-original-width="2285" height="512" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgm5q8NLPzqUgeI_8u7RxXqPLYMDboubTbbmLkzygjStgJ_8R8BqBu2V8_fv_P6_w0cAeCKYHYFLp77Enk6F-QoUFsooi64UTJTaaR4AyWNcuUX4xQtHblTqhpOTtP-yqfv2rncCRDJHR_X921W6Z8VtN_-3VegMclkpuYO0j29ADUxxwM2A0EyWfTjvCNi/w640-h512/112_WED_Enterprises.jpg" width="640" /></a></div><div style="text-align: center;">Walt and Julie Reihm</div><div><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg5bsAE9AADWdkELs--QaXsyJF0Rbr7sXV3zeQjNpU43gYRMC2xiiHfjxInfdioO3LV_OjOeu7smgFSoBIB9qkZNNjC47Qm4mCruGrcqTJFrnv86iWLI1S2BJTYYz91C_4lWc8798vYsoX7dMF4hhvkhdD2B8GbNHhArnYMXPiltVlfHe1X7A-FMxjgeFxj/s2356/DL%20Tencennial.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="1836" data-original-width="2356" height="498" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg5bsAE9AADWdkELs--QaXsyJF0Rbr7sXV3zeQjNpU43gYRMC2xiiHfjxInfdioO3LV_OjOeu7smgFSoBIB9qkZNNjC47Qm4mCruGrcqTJFrnv86iWLI1S2BJTYYz91C_4lWc8798vYsoX7dMF4hhvkhdD2B8GbNHhArnYMXPiltVlfHe1X7A-FMxjgeFxj/w640-h498/DL%20Tencennial.jpg" width="640" /></a></div><div style="text-align: center;">Walt, Julie, and Harriet Burns</div><div><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiolF_2NN7Dt9NrBsSKM7oZoUvbPKxNmOpaMTmNR-sGkAA-i16kf72lVf3R-s_EVmfmjIo_FRUYCokhR1wWrohmrEmsfbXwHCZxr8Q2Cu00jngKEVQTkoKb-zL8X_SlwtMoDfQnrNLSvidqCoFHV1qKuwcLMfhRNb51EjN-9un_FXEiuBVDfLBt4UoU-W73/s1024/DL%20Tencennial%20(3)%20copy.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="816" data-original-width="1024" height="510" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiolF_2NN7Dt9NrBsSKM7oZoUvbPKxNmOpaMTmNR-sGkAA-i16kf72lVf3R-s_EVmfmjIo_FRUYCokhR1wWrohmrEmsfbXwHCZxr8Q2Cu00jngKEVQTkoKb-zL8X_SlwtMoDfQnrNLSvidqCoFHV1qKuwcLMfhRNb51EjN-9un_FXEiuBVDfLBt4UoU-W73/w640-h510/DL%20Tencennial%20(3)%20copy.jpg" width="640" /></a></div><div style="text-align: center;">Walt, Julie, and John Hench</div><div><br /></div>Two of the photos are not too horrible, and they are at slightly different angles, which means you can create a "magic eye" 3-D version if you twiddle and fiddle with the photos until they line up, plus some other adjustments. It's not exactly View-Master quality, folks, but it works.<div><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjl8krGnXvsNKkwIvK-LqbEe0aOoyrjHW7EzpKQ8vZx3lur-Uz9bI_hUxeG7c1h2VIJ2-hWe0NjPYe4F4uuutMES_gc1Xwh3IpbLxkytXe_abbsG568nApjtVxJIzvBIDsDeLUYapzhVVuAaz036EItc-jHBK_tR4s5RN8tuXiW-M0Krc4rHOVUKibPbcDm/s387/skullstone%20copy.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="377" data-original-width="387" height="312" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjl8krGnXvsNKkwIvK-LqbEe0aOoyrjHW7EzpKQ8vZx3lur-Uz9bI_hUxeG7c1h2VIJ2-hWe0NjPYe4F4uuutMES_gc1Xwh3IpbLxkytXe_abbsG568nApjtVxJIzvBIDsDeLUYapzhVVuAaz036EItc-jHBK_tR4s5RN8tuXiW-M0Krc4rHOVUKibPbcDm/w320-h312/skullstone%20copy.jpg" width="320" /></a></div><br /><div>Is the skull wearing a conical hat? Or no, and is that a handle on the right? (The 3-D helps here. It looks to me like the lighter-colored bar is out a bit from the background.) In other words, perhaps it's not a hat but rather a hat<i>chet. </i>More of a tomahawk design, actually.<i> </i>Is Rolly borrowing an idea from a Marc Davis concept artwork <i>directly across the room?</i> It's fun to think so, even if the evidence is not clear enough to be sure.</div><div><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjMmC4J_CtkMgvn6ITYu7ZxZWKilOmbFxg_Rys0Ylqo4QQEW8DuRWCJBapCkRjILBTPxkSopohCKTlRyxFm6ylVZ3id7VPouCGPag_28_RZJZPV-ZZ9FlQ6dmZUmFvxGQqNWdXcGYZB5O1zoZqcTcBQX8OcU0XDd9-PcMelIkGVZetGeZalSn52_qMKMT9T/s680/george.png" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="680" data-original-width="541" height="640" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjMmC4J_CtkMgvn6ITYu7ZxZWKilOmbFxg_Rys0Ylqo4QQEW8DuRWCJBapCkRjILBTPxkSopohCKTlRyxFm6ylVZ3id7VPouCGPag_28_RZJZPV-ZZ9FlQ6dmZUmFvxGQqNWdXcGYZB5O1zoZqcTcBQX8OcU0XDd9-PcMelIkGVZetGeZalSn52_qMKMT9T/w510-h640/george.png" width="510" /></a></div><br /><div><br /><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><span style="color: #93c47d; font-size: large;">In One Year and Out the Other</span></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><span style="font-size: large;"><br /></span></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;">Brandon Hardy has solved a minor mystery. The so-called "Rolly Chair" that was added to the Séance Circle during the "Enhauntsments" of 2021 turns out to be an off-the-shelf item: A Deangelis Rattan wicker chair. See <a href="https://longforgottenhauntedmansion.blogspot.com/2021/07/the-enhauntsments-of-2021.html" target="_blank">HERE</a>. But around here if you oust one mystery, another moves in. Why has the chair been removed? At least as of now, it isn't there. Didn't come back after the HMH overlay this last winter. No one knows why. Maybe the owner of the chair's design went harrumph and the Disney lawyers up and panicked?</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgGhXrffcZDeKTa0o2DrEp_-m3dKxyDBazKE7YjUCXfJZR5cmxVDDs6dgWmAYUAG0kXnDimg7hEQES9qchHeVJ5F9B5z5WfEs4Ek9N4QoQbv0VjV0qJMb0kTbccplPXVSJ5CnrwBadPsPTNwBnNkDbWqdyJEiiEG94kD_eevsSmHhYf_YU-obpbU2HZ3Ul8/s464/ccccccc.png" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="344" data-original-width="464" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgGhXrffcZDeKTa0o2DrEp_-m3dKxyDBazKE7YjUCXfJZR5cmxVDDs6dgWmAYUAG0kXnDimg7hEQES9qchHeVJ5F9B5z5WfEs4Ek9N4QoQbv0VjV0qJMb0kTbccplPXVSJ5CnrwBadPsPTNwBnNkDbWqdyJEiiEG94kD_eevsSmHhYf_YU-obpbU2HZ3Ul8/s16000/ccccccc.png" /></a></div><br /><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><span style="text-align: left;">No such speculations can help us with the Bat Cage mystery, however. It showed up next to the Endless Hallway after the most recent HMH overlay, but just as mysteriously it disappeared after only a brief tenure. You might say it was removed in just the bat of an eye.</span></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjuC3OoMidv1aIn21_Xq3YH8-C3G9JmqOdnvOKVFhB9KSqSLVqulESspULdwdhPMOoJAnDBycl3kiKsKsCLtdvw27LStGt3_ei0o4inRBt4b9YavObe4On0XoTghRn2lxrtvrDXUZkj3MLK2WOuG7xHb98WUCfWd7qn-SSQ_HVxCxWgyXQh_9D9zacuU1QC/s1005/marc%20bat%20cage%20best%20copy%202.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="1005" data-original-width="724" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjuC3OoMidv1aIn21_Xq3YH8-C3G9JmqOdnvOKVFhB9KSqSLVqulESspULdwdhPMOoJAnDBycl3kiKsKsCLtdvw27LStGt3_ei0o4inRBt4b9YavObe4On0XoTghRn2lxrtvrDXUZkj3MLK2WOuG7xHb98WUCfWd7qn-SSQ_HVxCxWgyXQh_9D9zacuU1QC/s16000/marc%20bat%20cage%20best%20copy%202.jpg" /></a></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhyHQJY7QjljM8e--8gTXPFjhJbMH8qM0MqWZqJBB_9OzyGN1sZmuOUXHNbQJSiIirrSIzTnAX455R-h7wVfNdFxkHRiW9FfshaqnjyLrOmKy9fnZRASQ4pQhAMGq7WxS9FtS4WpJg1fTS022JPD2mBUy8hiIbQa3WSTyZsacJHTqI0vU7DQ1xVCPQrMjbm/s1086/batcage%20in%20dl.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="978" data-original-width="1086" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhyHQJY7QjljM8e--8gTXPFjhJbMH8qM0MqWZqJBB_9OzyGN1sZmuOUXHNbQJSiIirrSIzTnAX455R-h7wVfNdFxkHRiW9FfshaqnjyLrOmKy9fnZRASQ4pQhAMGq7WxS9FtS4WpJg1fTS022JPD2mBUy8hiIbQa3WSTyZsacJHTqI0vU7DQ1xVCPQrMjbm/s16000/batcage%20in%20dl.jpg" /></a></div><div style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #e69138;">Jeff Baham</span></div><div style="text-align: center;"><br /></div><div style="text-align: left;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><span style="color: #f1c232; font-size: x-large;">****************</span></div><br /><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><br /></div><br /><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div><br /><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div><br /><p><br /></p></div>HBG2http://www.blogger.com/profile/05073387557562504315noreply@blogger.com2tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4444762441887107389.post-61147170599144592862023-04-23T07:49:00.003-07:002023-06-14T19:50:04.122-07:00Thirteen O'Clock (and RIP to a Friendly Bumpkin)<div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><span style="color: #ff00fe;">June 14, 2023. UPDATE on the so-called "Rolly Chair" in the Séance Circle</span> <a href="https://longforgottenhauntedmansion.blogspot.com/2021/07/the-enhauntsments-of-2021.html" target="_blank">HERE</a>.</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEge2ImELhTILSZCAMIwIYxWWUXCBEAqAuFfzv8Z3igLUDIwSO87zcaBylAi-t-ZannHtsR66cp2vKMu2Er42QGjx62gLhfS-qURbm9ICa22EXtUw62kxcwtE8bQwB46stvHDCa2SZGuryjC_nrX34Mk1pPMuCsEmBzp7GrHI-5a0oO-MVzLe3POPoPlkA/s960/%20%20%20%20%20%20RIP%203-12-23.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><br /><img border="0" data-original-height="960" data-original-width="720" height="640" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEge2ImELhTILSZCAMIwIYxWWUXCBEAqAuFfzv8Z3igLUDIwSO87zcaBylAi-t-ZannHtsR66cp2vKMu2Er42QGjx62gLhfS-qURbm9ICa22EXtUw62kxcwtE8bQwB46stvHDCa2SZGuryjC_nrX34Mk1pPMuCsEmBzp7GrHI-5a0oO-MVzLe3POPoPlkA/w480-h640/%20%20%20%20%20%20RIP%203-12-23.jpg" width="480" /></a></div><p style="text-align: center;">It's thirteen <span style="color: #e06666;">of the clock</span> at Long Forgotten. (That's what "o'clock" means, 'case you didn't know.)</p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhriKY_PqM0cMX8JeRo5uvHZkvSGs6XKPB7c4NdTX79uPKnpqwQcrK69haOhyQIjh32NenA7_xnWdqMZnIodEyfeHf1MW4PJWFoC8bgDvqrrjeDVkuBc59Egzen5MgOfBuiQDwwTb1CZdGfNVozorUNUWDGNaOvzSP2jv9NUkIWWv9mA_ZS9m4sMZXOEA/s419/klok.png" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="419" data-original-width="329" height="640" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhriKY_PqM0cMX8JeRo5uvHZkvSGs6XKPB7c4NdTX79uPKnpqwQcrK69haOhyQIjh32NenA7_xnWdqMZnIodEyfeHf1MW4PJWFoC8bgDvqrrjeDVkuBc59Egzen5MgOfBuiQDwwTb1CZdGfNVozorUNUWDGNaOvzSP2jv9NUkIWWv9mA_ZS9m4sMZXOEA/w502-h640/klok.png" width="502" /></a></div><br /><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><span style="color: #b6d7a8; font-size: x-large;">This is our thirteenth anniversary.</span></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><span style="color: #b6d7a8; font-size: x-large;">Lucky you, lucky me.</span></div><p>Thanks once again to all you readers. This anniversary should have been a fun one, but our countenances have fallen, our celebration is subdued, and our pain is still fresh after losing the last of our original A-team Haunted Mansion Imagineers, <span style="color: #ffd966;">Rolly Crump</span>, who left us March 12th.</p><p style="text-align: center;">Truly he lived and died a friendly bumpkin.</p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhXAWhkLYqtS47d8k2YWbwVpbzLgpWfwlYvkKRXwNWpLJIo0t91BmEE5inKgiPeLN4hCR1BIjBkSMoJCkETb6yt01wS7iJIBPCTbknS7H8VXtGIlUTcI3UDaYV0ZDH8pr4sdYDAtzgJYGoTsiFISJDgv2BeqG2kSpPDq2dN-v39TpKOknnUPK7ehmTpwQ/s1224/GDB%20162%209-71%20DL%20HM002%20copy.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="1224" data-original-width="814" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhXAWhkLYqtS47d8k2YWbwVpbzLgpWfwlYvkKRXwNWpLJIo0t91BmEE5inKgiPeLN4hCR1BIjBkSMoJCkETb6yt01wS7iJIBPCTbknS7H8VXtGIlUTcI3UDaYV0ZDH8pr4sdYDAtzgJYGoTsiFISJDgv2BeqG2kSpPDq2dN-v39TpKOknnUPK7ehmTpwQ/s16000/GDB%20162%209-71%20DL%20HM002%20copy.jpg" /></a></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><span style="color: #a2c4c9;">1971 pic by Lou Perry</span></div><div><br /></div><div style="text-align: center;">His is the only original "family plot" tribute headstone that is still doing service at the Mansion,</div><div style="text-align: center;">as most of you know. Find him at the graveyard jamboree, not far from the opera pair.</div><div><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEijTh3QPbvFpm9XGipU-ZT0Pm-Q7ObGap-CPzyQjUW1nowwISyGvy7XF6fCmYdIYRu4e9WVZMXn95q24VYzmS2XHTlnl90t3LY1x5VgGsp4TK-wBPP5fMV_Lu6fC35AoTiOiNFJALbPXx52NfroqDxCr8INN3mn1qaHaW4m0yp7SMLWE1o0ObgdY8Q1cg/s573/Screen%20Shot%202023-04-08%20at%209.26.29%20PM.png" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="573" data-original-width="339" height="640" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEijTh3QPbvFpm9XGipU-ZT0Pm-Q7ObGap-CPzyQjUW1nowwISyGvy7XF6fCmYdIYRu4e9WVZMXn95q24VYzmS2XHTlnl90t3LY1x5VgGsp4TK-wBPP5fMV_Lu6fC35AoTiOiNFJALbPXx52NfroqDxCr8INN3mn1qaHaW4m0yp7SMLWE1o0ObgdY8Q1cg/w378-h640/Screen%20Shot%202023-04-08%20at%209.26.29%20PM.png" width="378" /></a></div><br /><div style="text-align: center;">A good place to pay your respects as you pass by.</div><div><br /></div><div>Speaking of, there have been tributes to Rolly all over the web, so I won't bore you by repeating things others have said. As many of you know, Rolly's artwork can be found in places other than Disney or other theme parks. His calligraphic skills were in demand, and he did a lot of posters for events. You can spot them without much difficulty, once you get the knack, since his style was quite distinctive.</div><div><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEi0rGD39won51Tx-ICFfS6O-6rALyuti3CTjS3AK9ZO8_NRM9yeTfPdfHb4xjBSiA58emp9hsnNA-eiqj2AzjrGmIi8qrzfmTJsItRUBSiGiNbPsJt-fdElc8tBVPTnlyTG7x0kQmPpENmohtNEZJBko-lFCu_A_DmQOpcZlci_AitYnkm66wpBv0CnnQ/s702/337892053_3347054728943552_8667723021235728714_n.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="541" data-original-width="702" height="494" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEi0rGD39won51Tx-ICFfS6O-6rALyuti3CTjS3AK9ZO8_NRM9yeTfPdfHb4xjBSiA58emp9hsnNA-eiqj2AzjrGmIi8qrzfmTJsItRUBSiGiNbPsJt-fdElc8tBVPTnlyTG7x0kQmPpENmohtNEZJBko-lFCu_A_DmQOpcZlci_AitYnkm66wpBv0CnnQ/w640-h494/337892053_3347054728943552_8667723021235728714_n.jpg" width="640" /></a></div><br /><div style="text-align: center;"><span style="font-size: large;">But I DO have something extra special. In our last post on Dorothea</span></div><div style="text-align: center;"><span style="font-size: large;">Redmond, I mentioned how one of her artworks obviously inspired</span></div><div style="text-align: center;"><span style="font-size: large;">something Rolly did, but I wasn't at liberty to show it to you.</span></div><div><br /></div><div>Well, it pays to have friends in low places, as I've said before. Sometimes you end up with something otherwise <i>verboten</i> from a second source, which means it's sorta open season since no one can know where you got it once it can be got from more than one place. And sometimes something you thought was photographed only once, wasn't. But I can neither confirm nor deny . . . anything I just said.</div><div><br /></div><div>So behold, a Rolly concept sketch for a Museum of the Weird sign. It's not the greatest piece of artwork Rolly ever produced, and it lacks his usual spidery calligraphy (although there IS a spider in it), and he painted over a spelling mistake (ha!), and it clearly is derivative from Dorothea's concept for a HM sign, but SO WHAT? It's a Rolly artwork you've never seen! One interesting feature is that it shows that at one time 1966 was an unofficial target date for the opening of the Haunted Mansion, which doesn't coincide with anything Mansion-related in that particular year that I'm aware of, so it's . . . weird. But all the more fascinating because of it.</div><div><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg3w43MlccMXQ3JFzgADf9jezCiNIqzWrt6WOomB3yZdlcPoSHZTAb6cR-z7fX2AiRY49YAZaZV7LqkPeQBgDXNbSMNFl99Wilmz0-6h4khNg37aOV7lcauaV8GxercGqNrjyVfDaAs_XGYuQlZDcRNJKUkUfIXgOsqGSNq69KVCEhm6or96svtuaAjYw/s839/mw%20sg.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="569" data-original-width="839" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg3w43MlccMXQ3JFzgADf9jezCiNIqzWrt6WOomB3yZdlcPoSHZTAb6cR-z7fX2AiRY49YAZaZV7LqkPeQBgDXNbSMNFl99Wilmz0-6h4khNg37aOV7lcauaV8GxercGqNrjyVfDaAs_XGYuQlZDcRNJKUkUfIXgOsqGSNq69KVCEhm6or96svtuaAjYw/s16000/mw%20sg.jpg" /></a></div><br /><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><span style="font-size: large;">Long Forgotten delivers the good goods, folks, and don'cha forget.</span></div><div style="text-align: center;"><br /></div><div style="text-align: center;">The Redmond sign concept once again, for comparison:</div><div style="text-align: center;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjs9lzE8DONv70XDC04acK-wwNTqOSPJCoAEBc8zjSBd1IFm3KzZJPCdokRHYN5_WRabM7yoEhY4GvrYQo2gxOXouNVtM2-nj55AjHcZjT6EKVZT5ozgGR8t6aqsqY4ty5uHrWu_vNh0-Vxa9u1mAAbqYDoBdlpvSGcsqcV_4xbT2o3gK92xWWSgp__hg/s744/dorothea%20redmond%20sign%20design_zpsihbnhgbd.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="744" data-original-width="283" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjs9lzE8DONv70XDC04acK-wwNTqOSPJCoAEBc8zjSBd1IFm3KzZJPCdokRHYN5_WRabM7yoEhY4GvrYQo2gxOXouNVtM2-nj55AjHcZjT6EKVZT5ozgGR8t6aqsqY4ty5uHrWu_vNh0-Vxa9u1mAAbqYDoBdlpvSGcsqcV_4xbT2o3gK92xWWSgp__hg/s16000/dorothea%20redmond%20sign%20design_zpsihbnhgbd.jpg" /></a></div><br /><div style="text-align: center;">It seems that Dorothea's concept sketch inspired not one but TWO other designs.</div><div style="text-align: center;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgiADyZ5_-Mv3go3WNBSn9d59ifgq7Ph5DQuX0CMY_TjA_6GFvm8x_4hgernQRKehcQon3MIKmqnTvA6-pMYUXErZLP2mUZPG74-2LStdDYEAL8VsIeKjk9tzp9gZa4VmwC2D2bXySkMnGOuaTlZEceq9QP-8vdifjdgC1kKTnUKLyjFSpmXNPkBXnbng/s988/sklar%20sign%20best%20copy.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="988" data-original-width="622" height="640" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgiADyZ5_-Mv3go3WNBSn9d59ifgq7Ph5DQuX0CMY_TjA_6GFvm8x_4hgernQRKehcQon3MIKmqnTvA6-pMYUXErZLP2mUZPG74-2LStdDYEAL8VsIeKjk9tzp9gZa4VmwC2D2bXySkMnGOuaTlZEceq9QP-8vdifjdgC1kKTnUKLyjFSpmXNPkBXnbng/w402-h640/sklar%20sign%20best%20copy.jpg" width="402" /></a></div><br /><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><span style="color: #f9cb9c; font-size: medium;">"Here y'go, this is it.</span></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><span style="color: #f9cb9c; font-size: medium;">Hmm? What? Oh, I'm sorry. I thought you asked me what my <i>Sklar</i> Sign is."</span></div><br /><div style="text-align: center;">What this shows, really, is that back in the day, everything was everybody's,</div><div style="text-align: center;">and all of it was Walt's anyway, and you checked your ego at the door.</div><div style="text-align: center;"><br /></div><div style="text-align: center;">Because teamwork. Nuff said.</div><div style="text-align: center;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhjsEtC4FxLX0hk0oes_zniDrK2sJDENQMA7pL-sop_zhp3DiuI2Wiwcp22jAfOhWF1EczCnYUEkec_Rb32aheqYwcZfUMSZfLd-nwTr0lkvIFmHdzTEPskMO0SlhoUhlVcI1FbSLwQ18eNCO2bRl7aRFz0GYzG6W_HyAfCKPKxMFtebPJ-TBVcUPbgNQ/s785/%20%20%20%20%20rolly%20rare%20prop.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="779" data-original-width="785" height="636" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhjsEtC4FxLX0hk0oes_zniDrK2sJDENQMA7pL-sop_zhp3DiuI2Wiwcp22jAfOhWF1EczCnYUEkec_Rb32aheqYwcZfUMSZfLd-nwTr0lkvIFmHdzTEPskMO0SlhoUhlVcI1FbSLwQ18eNCO2bRl7aRFz0GYzG6W_HyAfCKPKxMFtebPJ-TBVcUPbgNQ/w640-h636/%20%20%20%20%20rolly%20rare%20prop.jpg" width="640" /></a></div><br /><div style="text-align: center;">(Rare photo of a prop from the '59-'63 days when Rolly and Yale were the team working on the Mansion.)</div><div style="text-align: center;"><br /></div><div style="text-align: center;">A personal recollection. We visited the NY World's Fair in '64 or '65, and one thing I distinctly remember was this orchestra with instruments made from actual car parts, a display for the queue or the end-of-ride spill area of the Ford "Magic Skyway" attraction, created by Rolly Crump. Even at the age of 9 or 10, I thought it was <i>neat-o mosquito and tough torpedo</i>. Of course, I had no idea back then who was responsible for it. (The lady on the right has that look that says: "And just what the hell is THAT supposed to be?")</div><div style="text-align: center;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiU1sioEjLQZIpj0p2CRtu_pbJfWUwc5BQffjfKEKJHiM5Jjojzg1WBNE9cvcFqr5mCAy8dZ_hC6ayFuPBlbj-aWAkdAFBnPByo-D7KJDwfM67Pc_zER9Yg0Mu5w_pzRSKmEICDWeQhx2LlZgs3QJGk7m9XgTOKGjfQ-SVExtNaes98wuXMG11aaDCuvA/s728/orchestra.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="589" data-original-width="728" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiU1sioEjLQZIpj0p2CRtu_pbJfWUwc5BQffjfKEKJHiM5Jjojzg1WBNE9cvcFqr5mCAy8dZ_hC6ayFuPBlbj-aWAkdAFBnPByo-D7KJDwfM67Pc_zER9Yg0Mu5w_pzRSKmEICDWeQhx2LlZgs3QJGk7m9XgTOKGjfQ-SVExtNaes98wuXMG11aaDCuvA/s16000/orchestra.jpg" /></a></div><br /><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjWEk3s82GBS-TXweqBEvYJVZ-VhDI0l689Rvlcn_1OmRddclp__bgkHrybVsxTC18zfVyUfrsVDltmmRkVhPGmhffr7VoFEE5wzENmRy7xwDmqrkLuMGeWn4p9-7u736z_KmMtlEFJg4B90zuCtu2IJA8fx6Y56I64eAsrlMd4SSK64DYgdrAAC33dfg/s960/224492_10204733750522518_6294652701562350433_n%20copy.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; 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font-size: x-large;">**************************</span></p><p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #c27ba0; font-size: x-large;"><br /></span></p></div>HBG2http://www.blogger.com/profile/05073387557562504315noreply@blogger.com8tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4444762441887107389.post-23907303979163117332022-08-28T18:40:00.002-07:002023-04-25T23:17:37.239-07:00Our Dearest Dorothea<p><span style="font-size: medium;">Dorothea Redmond, that is.</span></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjmCgh2i5RpvyiaTO357STlXe48wc8Ip2lYV43Ase0p8-nn6APAUKNMyPTPhp6QjP7rOl0Q--rRcmtkGLpazL2BVgVcR2CpqV5dSWLrG_dVz2MFtkVoRuEvukN-R440LWbYp8Ic0GK8CIoDnRc5tGWWhlzu-5A8cThvCEjENUqpw70ny2u5LGMFspH8ow/s439/1180w-600h_a-to-z-dorothea-redmond-780x440-1727871836.jpeg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="439" data-original-width="376" height="400" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjmCgh2i5RpvyiaTO357STlXe48wc8Ip2lYV43Ase0p8-nn6APAUKNMyPTPhp6QjP7rOl0Q--rRcmtkGLpazL2BVgVcR2CpqV5dSWLrG_dVz2MFtkVoRuEvukN-R440LWbYp8Ic0GK8CIoDnRc5tGWWhlzu-5A8cThvCEjENUqpw70ny2u5LGMFspH8ow/w343-h400/1180w-600h_a-to-z-dorothea-redmond-780x440-1727871836.jpeg" width="343" /></a></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjthsPqX8V7BjHI4wE4ydIDq500QJHJDfxYVn-rE38uNCTGYNlSeTQ3mEFDM8amKFzXWEZDsd7K2QUnjPUqJvw0QxvVDuKosEnSy5BV3j-kVd7aDOdiNtx026B-aLlaV-GouGoZnojxDTM3u7peoGeWhN-XYhcfWpPQ_0wNDEg5X6HeCtU6NGT0HZsnPQ/s1000/H0045-L277684915.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="800" data-original-width="1000" height="320" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjthsPqX8V7BjHI4wE4ydIDq500QJHJDfxYVn-rE38uNCTGYNlSeTQ3mEFDM8amKFzXWEZDsd7K2QUnjPUqJvw0QxvVDuKosEnSy5BV3j-kVd7aDOdiNtx026B-aLlaV-GouGoZnojxDTM3u7peoGeWhN-XYhcfWpPQ_0wNDEg5X6HeCtU6NGT0HZsnPQ/w400-h320/H0045-L277684915.jpg" width="400" /></a></div><br /><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;">We've talked about all the major players who brought the Mansion to (after)life. Anderson. Davis. Crump. Coats. Gracey. Atencio. Baker. We've also tipped the old LF hat to a number of artists who played lesser roles, some of whom were major Imagineers but just didn't happen to have the same degree of involvement as the Seven. What we're doing today is paying special tribute to one of those latter artists, rather belatedly (a word you're going to see many times in what follows).</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;">Part of the problem is that Redmond's known concept artwork for the HM is a relatively small group of paintings, and decent reproductions of most of those few have only recently become available. For example, until this summer this mutilated monstrosity was the best I could do for one of her paintings:</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgAqJzq61xG8wmqIVYis9CVIRZbTSqpIAwszm89DUaa6qjEXYmz3vDQldFv88V7j3gvK3_XrLPowbCxq4roKZYfFO4SoLW6ESa1-9YQA7BBychxA6z1-KaM0KqZQJwW1NytEI1nA3vlCOt-eRVdSR7mr8r8wsXysmeV6WWSSo8-r6DOAbSwj2QVlzIl6g/s798/redmond%20flood%20very%20best.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="532" data-original-width="798" height="426" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgAqJzq61xG8wmqIVYis9CVIRZbTSqpIAwszm89DUaa6qjEXYmz3vDQldFv88V7j3gvK3_XrLPowbCxq4roKZYfFO4SoLW6ESa1-9YQA7BBychxA6z1-KaM0KqZQJwW1NytEI1nA3vlCOt-eRVdSR7mr8r8wsXysmeV6WWSSo8-r6DOAbSwj2QVlzIl6g/w640-h426/redmond%20flood%20very%20best.jpg" width="640" /></a></div><br /><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;">And there was a time when <i>this</i> was the best available reproduction of her Séance:</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEi_wevqQs5J_H15nAwIj01MMahyCM7HArYxcidhlyp615VvH7fJJGMmEeZFW4m6eLMCv6VdQ042z8OF7ZMHpaDUO_naX7v1A9qVYVYIf3Hx1UYc8rtEUlwIYv1NuFSMLhr10Gci_BQZesvuoYO7pPRWEU_6FLmXSNgRMpjtWSd1gFTqoxARhO_VRU_LUA/s957/old%20ss.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="675" data-original-width="957" height="451" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEi_wevqQs5J_H15nAwIj01MMahyCM7HArYxcidhlyp615VvH7fJJGMmEeZFW4m6eLMCv6VdQ042z8OF7ZMHpaDUO_naX7v1A9qVYVYIf3Hx1UYc8rtEUlwIYv1NuFSMLhr10Gci_BQZesvuoYO7pPRWEU_6FLmXSNgRMpjtWSd1gFTqoxARhO_VRU_LUA/w640-h451/old%20ss.jpg" width="640" /></a></div><br /><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;">The only available "Hallway" reproduction was just as bad. A fourth artwork was only available in a heavily cropped version, and a fifth was passed around only as a bootleg, with the understanding that it was <i>not</i> for publication. As a result, <b>only two</b> of her Mansion paintings have seen wide circulation, due to their inclusion in the Jason Surrell HM book (all editions).</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;">Thanks in large part to <a href="https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=10224497191876375&set=pcb.10224497201716621" target="_blank">Joshua Harris</a>, to <a href="https://books.disney.com/book/marc-davis-in-his-own-words/" target="_blank">Chris Merritt</a>, and also to the fact that the aforementioned bootleg has now been leaked on the 'Net so often that there's no real reason to refrain from showing it any more, at least eight pieces of Redmond's Mansion art are now available in decent reproductions.</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;">Enough for a LF post, for sure.</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;">Many of my observations below have been made before in the various and sundry places Redmond's artwork has appeared in other posts, but her work deserves to be collected and commented upon in its own right.</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><span style="color: #93c47d; font-size: large;"><i>Here, in the gallery, you see rare paintings, some of our Redmondses, as they appeared...</i></span></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;">Before we get into Dorothea's bio, let's hurry up and put the artworks on display, since that's really what y'all are here for.</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;">Starting with the two that everyone has seen...</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiV3AqgNlj8ia--m_ldNLPzoGuKd2C00Sd-NpHhYV6iddSp4jwDU-rTFGKfggHFXYd87U1Y1jSJZ9k0-1WNXunvJSmGxXqGXbfPypNvx9UJOc7ZURIapwcJByFnittArzpV8ESSI4zg8cArD90fNT0LoYIDDLHRzW7yIcmvYMXJ9JxhGEP8UKBaddrsMA/s786/hall.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="786" data-original-width="779" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiV3AqgNlj8ia--m_ldNLPzoGuKd2C00Sd-NpHhYV6iddSp4jwDU-rTFGKfggHFXYd87U1Y1jSJZ9k0-1WNXunvJSmGxXqGXbfPypNvx9UJOc7ZURIapwcJByFnittArzpV8ESSI4zg8cArD90fNT0LoYIDDLHRzW7yIcmvYMXJ9JxhGEP8UKBaddrsMA/s16000/hall.jpg" /></a></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;">I love this hallway sketch, just like, oh, approximately 100% of all the other HM fans in existence. The execution of the concept seen here would have been relatively easy, I tend to think. Mirrors on front and back walls, floor, and ceiling, except that the mirror-wall closest to us is a two-way. The floating lights would bob on thin wires hanging down or perhaps project from the wood-panel side walls, much like the fiber optic stars in Peter Pan. These would light up the interior enough so that we would see <i>through</i> the two-way as a window, but we wouldn't see ourselves reflected in it if we were in a dark enough space, and from the inside looking back, the two-way would then function like an ordinary mirror, creating with the back mirror an endless depth.</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjgRWVLvdtkazKIvmNoUfHG0YO6uJl3zEDQo-E1XMJ-x373o7MKW_Ci5Vrf3EkX-omxB629At8a2x8U8mMBq9SXljTNRxYqMOCk26zDqCx2nFuUaaW9xWjAJv9_ewC8hBtfNP0vKV6xgc0NMZYiTjGkT0eoKhpyOVI2DjljvzEkUzqpi0pgARjaxButnA/s802/Screen%20Shot%202022-08-20%20at%203.09.42%20PM.png" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="572" data-original-width="802" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjgRWVLvdtkazKIvmNoUfHG0YO6uJl3zEDQo-E1XMJ-x373o7MKW_Ci5Vrf3EkX-omxB629At8a2x8U8mMBq9SXljTNRxYqMOCk26zDqCx2nFuUaaW9xWjAJv9_ewC8hBtfNP0vKV6xgc0NMZYiTjGkT0eoKhpyOVI2DjljvzEkUzqpi0pgARjaxButnA/s16000/Screen%20Shot%202022-08-20%20at%203.09.42%20PM.png" /></a></div><div><br /></div><div style="text-align: center;">Easily the creepiest of all Séance Circle concept sketches. For many of us, that means it's the best. There isn't even a crystal ball. Nothing can be learned by asking who these two figures are, or what they're doing. We are utterly in the dark. And I for one wouldn't have it any other way.</div><div><br /><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEicF1LhRClTtCqidc1Un7I3lmliMfAFy6B2G6ZjB0h9HEcZgW4btr7OU1yJZwBl2E3z8MtcxzM5H3Fab4-4l7yO9oKxUukGR1YzgrE0w1uIquhyaL89ua7vjW92dNSX0TcbVBEFBXXC8fGC7kFH_-Y69ghC-rz2MngaVVleEjd6ODupYuXt8WuINswHbw/s814/Screen%20Shot%202022-08-20%20at%203.07.01%20PM.png" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="542" data-original-width="814" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEicF1LhRClTtCqidc1Un7I3lmliMfAFy6B2G6ZjB0h9HEcZgW4btr7OU1yJZwBl2E3z8MtcxzM5H3Fab4-4l7yO9oKxUukGR1YzgrE0w1uIquhyaL89ua7vjW92dNSX0TcbVBEFBXXC8fGC7kFH_-Y69ghC-rz2MngaVVleEjd6ODupYuXt8WuINswHbw/s16000/Screen%20Shot%202022-08-20%20at%203.07.01%20PM.png" /></a></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><span style="color: #6fa8dc; font-size: x-small;"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=10224497191876375&set=pcb.10224497201716621" target="_blank">Joshua Harris</a></span></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;">Pure surrealism, and incorporating the <a href="https://longforgottenhauntedmansion.blogspot.com/2010/05/here-comes-bride-part-two-beating-heart.html" target="_blank">Beating Heart</a> ghost (I won't say "bride") in headless form.</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjWERPRLevuL6vL6zX4a8Oc9Li_ak0ODL8Upz5xOCMMNuswnvsYtt3hj6jhx1Vt55cOmWtLC6Qec9kgDPNrtjTQYe19yxD-25Y6Emqb8oN3n-aJzOU_WFoWs_de04nj8OUQdHMNIryc7iQLNSM0QRd1q5kZ9LGTypmJvGOHWdUsImibkG9rR8MqVx4Aig/s507/Screen%20Shot%202022-08-20%20at%204.11.28%20PM.png" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="507" data-original-width="435" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjWERPRLevuL6vL6zX4a8Oc9Li_ak0ODL8Upz5xOCMMNuswnvsYtt3hj6jhx1Vt55cOmWtLC6Qec9kgDPNrtjTQYe19yxD-25Y6Emqb8oN3n-aJzOU_WFoWs_de04nj8OUQdHMNIryc7iQLNSM0QRd1q5kZ9LGTypmJvGOHWdUsImibkG9rR8MqVx4Aig/s16000/Screen%20Shot%202022-08-20%20at%204.11.28%20PM.png" /></a></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjwe5LDsUCrkvJsBAmZjxw0Mj49zuo5UYHMc0468ucStwMzVByok9aaVHJcNX4SM0uk8KKTi2_jw-ML1uuYRJj8NGJIEUTEjLweftrsU3fmqdyvmTR8bvATsOApLJHOzTVMw6GdcMl_bztlhBNAQW8VQem8-VsyZ3dP6Z1KynnQ7nKpluEeZWg01UHc6g/s805/Screen%20Shot%202022-08-20%20at%203.08.10%20PM.png" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="500" data-original-width="805" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjwe5LDsUCrkvJsBAmZjxw0Mj49zuo5UYHMc0468ucStwMzVByok9aaVHJcNX4SM0uk8KKTi2_jw-ML1uuYRJj8NGJIEUTEjLweftrsU3fmqdyvmTR8bvATsOApLJHOzTVMw6GdcMl_bztlhBNAQW8VQem8-VsyZ3dP6Z1KynnQ7nKpluEeZWg01UHc6g/s16000/Screen%20Shot%202022-08-20%20at%203.08.10%20PM.png" /></a></div><div style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #6fa8dc; font-size: x-small;"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=10224497191876375&set=pcb.10224497201716621" target="_blank">Joshua Harris</a></span></div><div><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiyQushYwngxwL0Da6y65kScwS0CE_C8HLbMmDC8SqLgv74LHIkIsdm16FEu7SD8E9jpGuJSv00pzkzPJvMq1Y8at5ESPx_809whNXk4rSb4RkZH-UVydURaFTU9_3BRDZUWCkRrmxAMgAlwUAg_7f0ici1Z5BFn23yYPGOSJBeqJmR7Ewv_uG7hKkEHQ/s877/Screen%20Shot%202022-09-08%20at%201.18.23%20PM.png" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="877" data-original-width="694" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiyQushYwngxwL0Da6y65kScwS0CE_C8HLbMmDC8SqLgv74LHIkIsdm16FEu7SD8E9jpGuJSv00pzkzPJvMq1Y8at5ESPx_809whNXk4rSb4RkZH-UVydURaFTU9_3BRDZUWCkRrmxAMgAlwUAg_7f0ici1Z5BFn23yYPGOSJBeqJmR7Ewv_uG7hKkEHQ/s16000/Screen%20Shot%202022-09-08%20at%201.18.23%20PM.png" /></a></div><div style="text-align: center;"><br /></div><div style="text-align: center;">More surrealism. I've commented <a href="https://longforgottenhauntedmansion.blogspot.com/2014/12/the-haunted-mansion-boat-ride.html" target="_blank">before</a> that this and the previous one have "watery" floors, enough to make you wonder if they were done during the short time they were toying with the notion of making the Mansion a boat ride. If it would have looked like this, I'd have been okay with it.</div></div><div><br /><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgMVx1EaJv0iw4-K2KbZihdxt1OI0mfsCjee1Ww-1jj8jHyqLAXNVQgpFuxLwAVpEai3xidmRQ6n0lhEaZislM5qxCFYNu8a-KjfVL2asHuHb3CCheqdBxJM_nKb9SW6mJN3Aej_oejSQPkHDlHYc6JwDiOGpCwaxo1nv6J-ZiBTrGkHZ7lrA9VzLI8yw/s820/Screen%20Shot%202022-08-20%20at%203.10.19%20PM.png" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="593" data-original-width="820" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgMVx1EaJv0iw4-K2KbZihdxt1OI0mfsCjee1Ww-1jj8jHyqLAXNVQgpFuxLwAVpEai3xidmRQ6n0lhEaZislM5qxCFYNu8a-KjfVL2asHuHb3CCheqdBxJM_nKb9SW6mJN3Aej_oejSQPkHDlHYc6JwDiOGpCwaxo1nv6J-ZiBTrGkHZ7lrA9VzLI8yw/s16000/Screen%20Shot%202022-08-20%20at%203.10.19%20PM.png" /></a></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;">I've said before that there are two places in any respectable haunted house where the Awful Truth is locked up and kept secret: the attic and the cellar. In <a href="https://longforgottenhauntedmansion.blogspot.com/2020/07/the-sea-captain-and-bride-that-you.html" target="_blank">some</a> of Ken Anderson's concepts, the chest in which poor Priscilla meets her demise is in the cellar rather than the attic; otherwise, this gorgeous Redmond watercolor seems to be the only serious attempt to conceptualize a haunted cellar tableau. It's also the only one of the five major works seen so far that does not have any surrealistic or fantastic features, and yet it fits in with them.</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;">Is that wine . . . or blood? Dot only knows.</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhLVKEGC7V0_mNmA5I7UYeteTe_gwQily8v5Sdi0FuMfu09BMmORvXb_KgOXU7ipHSkF5HTi9DD7ds3f0knDVDhUTEbc96quamG1wi9z9g7Id8RMAdvi7pCwPrEAxdwKPgor8skI-6T0PFje90cXBZEiH5a_ah0dniksPyJqgLEX1PSirUOh3Nu3Qzxig/s800/haunted-mansion-davis-or-dorothea-redmond-conservatory-longforgotten-hm.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="427" data-original-width="800" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhLVKEGC7V0_mNmA5I7UYeteTe_gwQily8v5Sdi0FuMfu09BMmORvXb_KgOXU7ipHSkF5HTi9DD7ds3f0knDVDhUTEbc96quamG1wi9z9g7Id8RMAdvi7pCwPrEAxdwKPgor8skI-6T0PFje90cXBZEiH5a_ah0dniksPyJqgLEX1PSirUOh3Nu3Qzxig/s16000/haunted-mansion-davis-or-dorothea-redmond-conservatory-longforgotten-hm.jpg" /></a></div><div><br /></div>Not 100% certain this is Redmond, but it sure looks like her work. If so, she probably should get credit for the Conservatory design. Just scoot the coffin right in there, boys. Thanks.</div><div><br /><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjzvp9iPb5bafErcEny7iw5ifqf6SbKKCZNMghjuwyU5dYFclcHIUi_0JoS5IBDd8aP0q7Mxxl4jqxIdnoWn7BY6AzGYVihL1VjPcLO0J_qC_VripaUfwbz4xdw9dmVxKytPPFPomp2iw0gDGvI2OMmgmuoJUA_kb_mgdzcQn3fVksLnUOmF_6xTHJCdQ/s815/Screen%20Shot%202022-08-20%20at%203.08.59%20PM.png" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="659" data-original-width="815" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjzvp9iPb5bafErcEny7iw5ifqf6SbKKCZNMghjuwyU5dYFclcHIUi_0JoS5IBDd8aP0q7Mxxl4jqxIdnoWn7BY6AzGYVihL1VjPcLO0J_qC_VripaUfwbz4xdw9dmVxKytPPFPomp2iw0gDGvI2OMmgmuoJUA_kb_mgdzcQn3fVksLnUOmF_6xTHJCdQ/s16000/Screen%20Shot%202022-08-20%20at%203.08.59%20PM.png" /></a></div><div style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #6fa8dc;"><a href="https://books.disney.com/book/marc-davis-in-his-own-words/" target="_blank">MDIHOW 373</a></span></div></div><div><br /><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;">I sure do wish I could show you another piece of artwork I've seen. <span style="color: #b6d7a8;">[And when you wish upon a star... check out the <a href="https://longforgottenhauntedmansion.blogspot.com/2023/04/thirteen-oclock-and-rip-to-friendly.html" target="_blank">next post</a>.]</span> Rolly Crump created a sign advertising the coming of his "Museum of the Weird" in 1966. The bleeding skull and cobwebs on it are obviously inspired by this Redmond design for the "Coming Soon" placard. Dorothea's concept is the prototype for the famous sign put up outside the Mansion <a href="https://longforgottenhauntedmansion.blogspot.com/2015/04/its-times-of-sign.html" target="_blank">at the beginning of 1965</a>. This is proof that she did HM-related work the first year she arrived at Disney.</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEh1_ZQCx6D0uFQicZnoKA0Jk1I9Qe_lvityE6WVHXg70bVETTpeIfCPSTvXeeLgNA742M97saH9-TCQxMhYI2JJlq7Yuy5Ojx8Ee8ebbvmpxKfpCuN6Y4FqoqQTtX3M6wv3A7FZ_WXFDTHy2Z7b2DsOc0T67_6ZWmJQ5R-O1hVaA_LyhIQwSTP7u_gndA/s744/dorothea%20redmond%20sign%20design_zpsihbnhgbd.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="744" data-original-width="283" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEh1_ZQCx6D0uFQicZnoKA0Jk1I9Qe_lvityE6WVHXg70bVETTpeIfCPSTvXeeLgNA742M97saH9-TCQxMhYI2JJlq7Yuy5Ojx8Ee8ebbvmpxKfpCuN6Y4FqoqQTtX3M6wv3A7FZ_WXFDTHy2Z7b2DsOc0T67_6ZWmJQ5R-O1hVaA_LyhIQwSTP7u_gndA/s16000/dorothea%20redmond%20sign%20design_zpsihbnhgbd.jpg" /></a></div><br /><div style="text-align: center;">This is one of those fragmentary pieces that <i>may</i> be a Redmond, but I'm not sure:</div><div><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjnVfngXoQTsi8v7xgppna-4OjySIHBb-9bmD677RF4wUmvaKCwkuWgFZ6JKCoaSvUKmGV04_eb5dQOgxucGAZMkvOi8FvKkdTUxEKTqeRgkLZaAS8650Ksrb-Q7XcecKGtNBoJd_NyflNSCU846oKUgSPiJxBK9FCjkldfunCiMilavtOli_VQB4oi3A/s469/room%20with%20stairs%20copy.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="360" data-original-width="469" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjnVfngXoQTsi8v7xgppna-4OjySIHBb-9bmD677RF4wUmvaKCwkuWgFZ6JKCoaSvUKmGV04_eb5dQOgxucGAZMkvOi8FvKkdTUxEKTqeRgkLZaAS8650Ksrb-Q7XcecKGtNBoJd_NyflNSCU846oKUgSPiJxBK9FCjkldfunCiMilavtOli_VQB4oi3A/s16000/room%20with%20stairs%20copy.jpg" /></a></div><div><br /></div><div>I see Redmond's Mansion artwork as a cross between the hallucinatory fantasy of Rolly Crump and the moody mahogany atmospherics of Claude Coats. And that, friends, is a nice mix indeed. Dorothea's paintings may be my favorite collection of HM concept art to just sit and stare at.</div><div><br /></div><br /><div><span style="color: #93c47d; font-size: large;">Belatedly</span></div><div><br /></div><div>"Belatedly" tolls like an iron bell throughout any discussion of Dorothea Redmond. She began her career at Selznick International Pictures in the 1930s and worked on quite a number of famous pictures, including <i>Gone With the Wind</i>. But while other art directors and designers (the male ones) got screen credits, Dorothea did not, even though <b><span style="color: #ea9999;"><i>she designed Tara</i>, </span></b>fer cryin' out loud. Belatedly, her contributions to GWTW and many other famous pictures have come to be recognized and appreciated, but I'll leave a fuller discussion of that part of her career to the links (<a href="https://d23.com/walt-disney-legend/dorothea-redmond/" target="_blank">HERE</a> and <a href="https://www.mindyjohnsoncreative.com/single-post/2020/01/20/dorothea-redmond-a-credit-to-her-profession" target="_blank">HERE</a> and <a href="https://www.themeparktourist.com/features/20190415/36830/women-who-changed-disney-parks-forever-dorothea-redmond" target="_blank">HERE</a>).</div><div><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEito1FasUzvX-cwAu7v13q4i3W_hxkOEf_MlAcwyBMj8ViIhcDn-Nc3JytxjIgC7tLhGzyCNlVM-DgWbmbrwrNJBWs2_6NB9d6OWB0N6Lpv8M1ouMIB_0hq0B2MaXy04fMSj12gonVyLT2jttvFPe3Y8eL6-pQsDqGfFgHoDmAaVl_XGIsGFEbEMxAOkg/s771/tara.png" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="771" data-original-width="530" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEito1FasUzvX-cwAu7v13q4i3W_hxkOEf_MlAcwyBMj8ViIhcDn-Nc3JytxjIgC7tLhGzyCNlVM-DgWbmbrwrNJBWs2_6NB9d6OWB0N6Lpv8M1ouMIB_0hq0B2MaXy04fMSj12gonVyLT2jttvFPe3Y8eL6-pQsDqGfFgHoDmAaVl_XGIsGFEbEMxAOkg/s16000/tara.png" /></a></div><br /><div>She came to Disney in 1964 and went immediately to work on a number of then-current projects. Her Mansion stuff seems to date from 1964 to 1967, and in keeping with the belated recognition that seems to dog her career, hers is the last truly notable body of HM concept artwork to become available for online posting in decent reproductions. She is also among that group of HM Imagineers who belatedly got tribute markers on the grounds of the actual ride, in the 2011 queue addition at WDW:</div><div><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEi7b2HggsTbsdT3He9QcPGOddIphHpflcSqXodNxVA5m-hNh63vtEGzB-zXlIg6mR-lfajyLJn9f9rEuA1AulygIhm_HUOwSlyfTtEgTjfowykrOQDr77TvAoE8G5TzTj1dwlUAGF0qDIYkVkHu5Ka14fHMk_SNJcXVczsJjVVQydIVRjOG9pF-4uRwMA/s876/Screen%20Shot%202022-08-11%20at%204.25.36%20PM.png" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="876" data-original-width="465" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEi7b2HggsTbsdT3He9QcPGOddIphHpflcSqXodNxVA5m-hNh63vtEGzB-zXlIg6mR-lfajyLJn9f9rEuA1AulygIhm_HUOwSlyfTtEgTjfowykrOQDr77TvAoE8G5TzTj1dwlUAGF0qDIYkVkHu5Ka14fHMk_SNJcXVczsJjVVQydIVRjOG9pF-4uRwMA/s16000/Screen%20Shot%202022-08-11%20at%204.25.36%20PM.png" /></a></div><br /><div>She died at the age of 98 on February 27, 2009, so this marker only postdates her actual death by a little over two years. It's a real pity she never got to see it or hear about it.</div><div><br /></div><div><br /></div><div><span style="color: #93c47d; font-size: large;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(147, 196, 125);">Beyond the Mansion...</span></span></div><div><br /></div><div>She only worked at Disney for ten years, but she was incredibly prolific, and her skills at design were much in demand at the studio throughout that time. What folks say is that she was a helluva nice gal, one of those people without a nasty bone in her body.</div><div><br /></div><div>Long after she retired in '74 she was officially recognized as a Disney Legend, in 2008, a mere thirty-four years after leaving the company. Rather <i>belated</i>, I'd call that.</div><div><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhFuTQPlVmJkrKpQs-OUxqotz7OtVXkcnpqwAa051c_0AXieQMVjFswptN9rvQZDJLbXCypIHhZbKoInw0jmF2D3F_MlVA53yycF0pa4GeL3T5ndB_Y4bSTyl41nPhd0Q3upb8gyKUh9J8RseXApf_qDxOBqndTJQG1wDcelKILw5f5UoI7YS6J1qkSRA/s1001/dorothearedmond%2520copy-2124483634.jpeg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="595" data-original-width="1001" height="380" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhFuTQPlVmJkrKpQs-OUxqotz7OtVXkcnpqwAa051c_0AXieQMVjFswptN9rvQZDJLbXCypIHhZbKoInw0jmF2D3F_MlVA53yycF0pa4GeL3T5ndB_Y4bSTyl41nPhd0Q3upb8gyKUh9J8RseXApf_qDxOBqndTJQG1wDcelKILw5f5UoI7YS6J1qkSRA/w640-h380/dorothearedmond%2520copy-2124483634.jpeg" width="640" /></a></div><br /><div style="text-align: center;">Since HM fans also tend to be POTC fans, I don't think anyone will mind if I include here this amazing Blue Bayou concept painting.</div><div><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhTKs6ZeTUxOcBiK4_GUUEnTwv9R89Mk-mh9v-U6PQkHqqBt2O-iMn_cRIiYOv37j55f9E9kywR02iPua_5MalR9WAzSR8Tjn0yloX6Y75lbuGVDF5am_lhWTYGmSbE20vEOXJGX3CjvpJf4Cf2SEsDfoeO6kxWof1-4R1oovtLD-VRAwVFebZAFEALmg/s819/Screen%20Shot%202022-08-20%20at%203.06.25%20PM.png" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="542" data-original-width="819" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhTKs6ZeTUxOcBiK4_GUUEnTwv9R89Mk-mh9v-U6PQkHqqBt2O-iMn_cRIiYOv37j55f9E9kywR02iPua_5MalR9WAzSR8Tjn0yloX6Y75lbuGVDF5am_lhWTYGmSbE20vEOXJGX3CjvpJf4Cf2SEsDfoeO6kxWof1-4R1oovtLD-VRAwVFebZAFEALmg/s16000/Screen%20Shot%202022-08-20%20at%203.06.25%20PM.png" /></a></div><br /><div style="text-align: center;">The most prominent public exhibition of her artistry anywhere in the parks is the large Cinderella mosaic inside the castle at WDW.</div><div><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEh1cq9mdTQrNA__3xfHnlnoO2Rrnq8UNYeHJNVmBxutaskOjKGMsiJYafcaop6If3Uv01padwQPh1i-CPTUakFjveR4lYCqnDjfN5sonV0apjIF6HdRmMMCWlLG2TMlZ7lUTERy3J2uzzqhXw7r6bmk617lMfe4Uqeq7dwuOD8JlUh-xeZY8cQS3T5f7Q/s810/05ccbb_12aa0d2a637b43c0a73ec8fb52fc6820~mv2.png" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="810" data-original-width="530" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEh1cq9mdTQrNA__3xfHnlnoO2Rrnq8UNYeHJNVmBxutaskOjKGMsiJYafcaop6If3Uv01padwQPh1i-CPTUakFjveR4lYCqnDjfN5sonV0apjIF6HdRmMMCWlLG2TMlZ7lUTERy3J2uzzqhXw7r6bmk617lMfe4Uqeq7dwuOD8JlUh-xeZY8cQS3T5f7Q/s16000/05ccbb_12aa0d2a637b43c0a73ec8fb52fc6820~mv2.png" /></a></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiHfJFW35-_gcRfH5Fs6iJZiP7_sIuLQcIWTsATz4_wgbMcJPbG3uh_e4HfhiMFAc4b0oNdnAQe_hUjgTF3sBF10jGBzCjQBEJYz-N4omostNIY_oEuXWzZ5_D6NKizaTQbyYWexHO0_jISzZqLFWiazIq-z4ch85jr247XNGOU_wezH0DYflxEzVMXnQ/s800/murals-castle-600x196.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="262" data-original-width="800" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiHfJFW35-_gcRfH5Fs6iJZiP7_sIuLQcIWTsATz4_wgbMcJPbG3uh_e4HfhiMFAc4b0oNdnAQe_hUjgTF3sBF10jGBzCjQBEJYz-N4omostNIY_oEuXWzZ5_D6NKizaTQbyYWexHO0_jISzZqLFWiazIq-z4ch85jr247XNGOU_wezH0DYflxEzVMXnQ/s16000/murals-castle-600x196.jpg" /></a></div><br /><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg0oeyGaixQ3AS72tyfGbybvG7dz_INDpzwhzsNTrbtnygcm3WxECYIY3EcxsSxyf7wQ5xMA15tKfE14B3b31X3aubKKzKcxA-AE3kWhVBcFF8Ij3s7IY1CgDHNCX3spi_M3mX_B-YHBIVDFCoEUpmQrJskJPLcALps1xdiCiOnKVrzXmePyNB4Wj8N_A/s800/Cinderella+Castle+Mosaics+06+(04-09)-395993010.jpeg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="600" data-original-width="800" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg0oeyGaixQ3AS72tyfGbybvG7dz_INDpzwhzsNTrbtnygcm3WxECYIY3EcxsSxyf7wQ5xMA15tKfE14B3b31X3aubKKzKcxA-AE3kWhVBcFF8Ij3s7IY1CgDHNCX3spi_M3mX_B-YHBIVDFCoEUpmQrJskJPLcALps1xdiCiOnKVrzXmePyNB4Wj8N_A/s16000/Cinderella+Castle+Mosaics+06+(04-09)-395993010.jpeg" /></a></div><br /><div style="text-align: center;">There's plenty of other Redmond artworks from her Disney years out there. Check it out. (Google is your friend.)</div><div style="text-align: center;">Meanwhile, our belated Long-Forgotten tribute to one of the Mansion's minor contributors is done (minor <i>only</i> in quantity; major in quality).</div><div><br /></div><div><br /></div><div style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #ffd966; font-size: x-large;">******************</span></div><div><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div><br /></div>HBG2http://www.blogger.com/profile/05073387557562504315noreply@blogger.com10tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4444762441887107389.post-65770973224132973102022-06-19T16:40:00.009-07:002024-02-03T13:22:25.659-08:00The Hatbox Ghost that Never Was<p>We've had two of them.* First of all, there's the <a href="https://longforgottenhauntedmansion.blogspot.com/2010/05/hat-box-ghost.html" target="_blank">original 1969 model</a>, the legend, he concerning whom there is still a lot of misinformation bruited about. Here are the facts. <b>Clip and save: </b></p><p></p><ul style="text-align: left;"><li>He was there for the soft opening on August 7th, seen only by Cast Members.</li><li>He was immediately pulled out because you could still see his face after it had "disappeared."</li><li>He was still missing two days later at the <a href="https://longforgottenhauntedmansion.blogspot.com/2010/07/when-did-mansion-officially-open.html" target="_blank">unofficial official</a> opening on August 9th, which is why so many people who rode the Mansion on that first day reported later that he was not there, and that's why the story got set in concrete that he was never seen by the public. It took a long time and a lot of jackhammering for that concrete to get broken up, but the claim still crops up now and then.</li><li>There is a credible report that he was already reinstalled by the very next day, the 10th. Whether he remained there over the next few days we don't know, but he was certainly there on Thursday the 14th. (That's the day I saw him, kids.)</li><li>For the next several <i><u>weeks</u></i> (not days) Hattie either stayed in continuously or was in-and-out while they tried to get him to work successfully, unsuccessfully. (I think the latter scenario is the more likely.) No one knows for sure when the plug was finally pulled for good, but probably in September.</li></ul><p></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEh6Stk__YpHNNWeKFNkhvPH4lSw81w32GXAqo6HiByqekfhf1HgiaBEYQTYvLbYpwXvbOE1ZECw4LMP47jn8MYRlEPig1QRHXPcfFuJ3_MsNA8dpWBW3Pqz-OuIJQL5lj5pij1jUSnH99s91d1yU5_GlAuPLz8f3fImNtNU-K7jBPSKMkBQKykGDQN2Iw/s359/hatboxghost.gif" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="202" data-original-width="359" height="360" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEh6Stk__YpHNNWeKFNkhvPH4lSw81w32GXAqo6HiByqekfhf1HgiaBEYQTYvLbYpwXvbOE1ZECw4LMP47jn8MYRlEPig1QRHXPcfFuJ3_MsNA8dpWBW3Pqz-OuIJQL5lj5pij1jUSnH99s91d1yU5_GlAuPLz8f3fImNtNU-K7jBPSKMkBQKykGDQN2Iw/w640-h360/hatboxghost.gif" width="640" /></a></div><p style="text-align: center;"><br /></p><p style="text-align: left;">And then there's the brilliant 2015 rediscarnation. Of course, <a href="https://longforgottenhauntedmansion.blogspot.com/2015/05/happy-haunts-materialize-hat-box-ghost.html" target="_blank">we know all about him</a>.</p><p style="text-align: left;">(Since ghosts are not <i>incarnate</i> to begin with, having no flesh, they technically can't be <i>reincarnated</i>, can they? Now, if you're not incarnate, what you are is <a href="https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/discarnate" target="_blank">discarnate</a>. That's the correct term. So if you're a ghost and you cease to exist but are subsequently brought back into existence, you've been<i> rediscarnated.</i> Don't look at me like that. You think I don't know what I'm doing?)</p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgp8hS-YmqXWCC_xNRylrdHwNH_7Aju1Mh1MGzquDGXd8XEEFtZ6x3NgiYq9VYvUCrOWb3F0f56DQ-BugMu3lSpLK_eGEdI3VS1ALO2MqiSaJUHLf_tdMbxvOhq2PRZPk0R1RHddXWtBzPZJtiKUduqo-bH9HDdqz3AXa3aRnVMqxlZFJGYaWFjr0mcIw/s270/hatride.gif" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="270" data-original-width="270" height="400" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgp8hS-YmqXWCC_xNRylrdHwNH_7Aju1Mh1MGzquDGXd8XEEFtZ6x3NgiYq9VYvUCrOWb3F0f56DQ-BugMu3lSpLK_eGEdI3VS1ALO2MqiSaJUHLf_tdMbxvOhq2PRZPk0R1RHddXWtBzPZJtiKUduqo-bH9HDdqz3AXa3aRnVMqxlZFJGYaWFjr0mcIw/w400-h400/hatride.gif" width="400" /></a></div><p style="text-align: center;"><span style="font-size: medium;"><br /></span></p><p style="text-align: center;"><span style="font-size: medium;">Jolly good, but what about the <i>Hatbox Ghost that almost, but never, was?</i></span></p><p>Ah, how quickly we forget. <i><span style="color: #8e7cc3; font-size: x-small;">*puffs pipe wistfully*</span></i> It's a historical episode that for some of us seems almost too recent to merit a Long-Forgotten post, but when I consider that (1) these things need to be chronicled before memories start turning hazy (which doesn't take long) and that (2) there are oodles of young doombugs running around and chattering away at the HM fan sites, some of whom were in kindergarten when this all happened, it becomes obvious that someone needs to put together a record for posterity.</p><p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #e06666; font-size: medium;"><b>Because yes, we came THISCLOSE to getting a new Hatbox Ghost at Disneyland in 2009.</b></span></p><p style="text-align: center;"><br /></p><p><span style="color: #93c47d; font-size: large;">2004—2005</span></p><p>We could begin the story back in the 90s, when the whole "bring back the Hatbox Ghost" movement felt its first stirrings, especially with the publication of <a href="https://longforgottenhauntedmansion.blogspot.com/2015/05/happy-haunts-materialize-hat-box-ghost.html" target="_blank">photos of the original HBG in 1999</a>, but the real beginning of this particular chapter in Mansion history is in 2004, when the first plans were being drawn up for Disneyland's 50th anniversary the following year. Among the ideas proposed at WDI for enhancements to the Haunted Mansion was <b>bringing back the Hatbox Ghost</b>. This was also when plans for Constance and her five hubbies were in development, and originally Hattie was going to be George, Connie's fifth husband, the poor sap with the hatchet in his head on the widow's stretching portrait. (I have to wonder how they intended to deal with the fact that the HBG has no handlebar mustache.) As if to test the waters, a Hatbox Ghost "big fig" was released by WD collectibles in 2005 and was a <i>smash hit</i>. If you're a HM fan at all, you've no doubt seen these figures or pictures of them. They command high prices these days, if you can get one at all.</p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhLrb7fkHg5Xk-VAAs9vCQRsXJFTJXdllh5iItzk2eWE7bcblZGGn-Xwma2ODN__kewX00VOvp4m2rusvg0bCVO814RAps0q7ymdZT08srA46YFGcX3pJZBi9ivpPx2ftHg715tZ-QhAZ58F-7jb2jCLD-xIDmKhbXrsTeFWBDChm5R6Yoc0IvSjKSWXQ/s1024/HBG%20bigfig%202652158556_a80ce2de66_b%20copy.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="1024" data-original-width="768" height="640" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhLrb7fkHg5Xk-VAAs9vCQRsXJFTJXdllh5iItzk2eWE7bcblZGGn-Xwma2ODN__kewX00VOvp4m2rusvg0bCVO814RAps0q7ymdZT08srA46YFGcX3pJZBi9ivpPx2ftHg715tZ-QhAZ58F-7jb2jCLD-xIDmKhbXrsTeFWBDChm5R6Yoc0IvSjKSWXQ/w480-h640/HBG%20bigfig%202652158556_a80ce2de66_b%20copy.jpg" width="480" /></a></div><p style="text-align: center;">One particularly interesting feature was the certificate of authenticity that came with the figure.</p><p style="text-align: center;">It including some tantalizing tidbits of backstory information about this particular ghost.</p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhonHkTAbH0Xn5vc3rxkgfxtub6FuhQ5R39VKO4qQUC2uj-I2G95suoaYAvxu8q6Su5GPj54v7mh5IQyAOqLU7yT8r9lPBoxIs63mMu3FiNI3kQNR980UIAEV5ApbO0nzEyNljiOk8WJnjaEQ0UMkWKB8INsZY5r_gKEtYyMLYsVunjYA_CV7V_H5fSaQ/s560/hatboxcert%20copy.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="451" data-original-width="560" height="516" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhonHkTAbH0Xn5vc3rxkgfxtub6FuhQ5R39VKO4qQUC2uj-I2G95suoaYAvxu8q6Su5GPj54v7mh5IQyAOqLU7yT8r9lPBoxIs63mMu3FiNI3kQNR980UIAEV5ApbO0nzEyNljiOk8WJnjaEQ0UMkWKB8INsZY5r_gKEtYyMLYsVunjYA_CV7V_H5fSaQ/w640-h516/hatboxcert%20copy.jpg" width="640" /></a></div><p style="text-align: center;">Other Disney souvenirs featuring the Hatbox Ghost trickled out over the next few years, and he sometimes</p><p style="text-align: center;">appeared in Disney artwork in various venues. Hmmm. Were they trying to tell us something?</p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEi6O85mfsVjO8FnXfgIpyQPqSQjBmL6Asl-3G1alzShAUFjt4gkC84_RnhgI87UZPlGv7xDe4klmgVxtBISnd3JV1eqzEWxerUU4R9WNbZsbJZnHiR7epATyJ_QEnpPN4-w5qZ0b-_CBqA8QdyR-AXaCKNUBfom13n6pN7hz7ixfW5I_6Cb7S8F7T9sTw/s463/souvenir%20100_2841small%20copy.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="463" data-original-width="334" height="640" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEi6O85mfsVjO8FnXfgIpyQPqSQjBmL6Asl-3G1alzShAUFjt4gkC84_RnhgI87UZPlGv7xDe4klmgVxtBISnd3JV1eqzEWxerUU4R9WNbZsbJZnHiR7epATyJ_QEnpPN4-w5qZ0b-_CBqA8QdyR-AXaCKNUBfom13n6pN7hz7ixfW5I_6Cb7S8F7T9sTw/w462-h640/souvenir%20100_2841small%20copy.jpg" width="462" /></a></div><br /><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhdpLJITc8PEH70nVa5kkY7Ys0DpyfX-Rvno47u2bBIH55_ExLhujSzMNJZwuTmj4XTy43SGsrqNS2U8eFwVQ4i-lvy1VtPVACU4JL2iSOMNiyOzndF_NI0P76FoHnftCSknBdyuBP7TbJfl0sIEWn4wC7xUPiGrdAMbRc4JJwlcrZIbW251N0gNw1Z1Q/s510/hbg%20tombstone%201429886052_0867adbf4f_o.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="510" data-original-width="376" height="640" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhdpLJITc8PEH70nVa5kkY7Ys0DpyfX-Rvno47u2bBIH55_ExLhujSzMNJZwuTmj4XTy43SGsrqNS2U8eFwVQ4i-lvy1VtPVACU4JL2iSOMNiyOzndF_NI0P76FoHnftCSknBdyuBP7TbJfl0sIEWn4wC7xUPiGrdAMbRc4JJwlcrZIbW251N0gNw1Z1Q/w472-h640/hbg%20tombstone%201429886052_0867adbf4f_o.jpg" width="472" /></a></div><br /><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhaJj4uMd1vBG9pkO05LfPmecKkQbrIC3Pyk8MX4waMcxVuG8jDUHrut7ihLSJE-SZXwIMtZGIHKR_xGjWcV7IGItwQB9j2Wgh_hla8pR6-TmCmrju-7MAuiZS5JuJDmnb7B0zkoIoLlEQjExofEZNi3yCbPBfb0iSoxgLFJpEAdQlAsJOXhwwHbUD8dw/s300/Aug%2008%20hatboxghostposter%20copy.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="300" data-original-width="300" height="400" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhaJj4uMd1vBG9pkO05LfPmecKkQbrIC3Pyk8MX4waMcxVuG8jDUHrut7ihLSJE-SZXwIMtZGIHKR_xGjWcV7IGItwQB9j2Wgh_hla8pR6-TmCmrju-7MAuiZS5JuJDmnb7B0zkoIoLlEQjExofEZNi3yCbPBfb0iSoxgLFJpEAdQlAsJOXhwwHbUD8dw/w400-h400/Aug%2008%20hatboxghostposter%20copy.jpg" width="400" /></a></div><br /><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg2Jonfuu9JgSPi2sWJXS53uy0jQhN290jy9ZpL41sCme5ez2YhmE2Hbgx9jX3_Eu0RwLTlZpnW7RWemhhiHW3mm4QZPVa_NOLzNg9w7P32-Ix9hE9QF6LRo3uMFj_TVXM75EnBOw8cHof3-dA2yLd1h1AF1W9rmF1RcRVJeQluhIBDdV7-EJ9DI5Fm6A/s480/HatBoxFigureRefer04%20copy.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="480" data-original-width="440" height="400" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg2Jonfuu9JgSPi2sWJXS53uy0jQhN290jy9ZpL41sCme5ez2YhmE2Hbgx9jX3_Eu0RwLTlZpnW7RWemhhiHW3mm4QZPVa_NOLzNg9w7P32-Ix9hE9QF6LRo3uMFj_TVXM75EnBOw8cHof3-dA2yLd1h1AF1W9rmF1RcRVJeQluhIBDdV7-EJ9DI5Fm6A/w366-h400/HatBoxFigureRefer04%20copy.jpg" width="366" /></a></div><br /><p><span style="color: #93c47d; font-size: x-large;">2006</span></p><p>The Constance version of the attic debuted in May of 2006 with Hattie nowhere to be seen, but a month earlier, at the beginning of April, word had already begun leaking out that the Hatbox Ghost may be coming back. Something must have happened 'round about April 24th, because a number of reports came out over the following couple of days confirming that a new Hatbox Ghost was definitely on the drawing board. According to one source, an early prototype was rumored to have already been built in Glendale. At this point he was still identified with George, Connie's fifth husband.</p><p><span style="color: #93c47d; font-size: x-large;">2007</span></p><p>In 2007 a completely different concept was proposed, and according to a reliable source it almost made it to reality. The idea was to forget about the attic and bring back Hattie somewhere else in the Mansion, like the Ballroom or Graveyard. He would be hidden in the darkness somewhere and would only make a sort of cameo appearance when briefly lit up. No time for the vanishing head gag. Not only that, but only Annual Passholders would see him, and even then only once per visit. During the regular part of the year, when the HMH was gone and the Fastpass area was idle, a special sticker on a Fastpass ticket would be dispensed for AP holders only. The sticker would be read by a sensor as they got in their buggies, telling the ride to light up the HBG when that buggy went by. Whether this idea survived into 2008, I can't say, but needless to say it was scrapped. The one good thing about it was that it would have preserved a sort of mystique about the character. He'd still be "missing" to most people. On the other hand, it smelled like a dirty trick to get more people to shell out $$$ for the AP.</p><p><span style="color: #93c47d; font-size: x-large;">2008</span></p><p>In preparation for the Mansion's upcoming 40th anniversary, the Merchandizing division and WDI began working in coordination with each other. This is EXTREMELY rare. Normally these guys can't stand each other, but sources are adamant that this time they did indeed work together. In truth, I don't think the input from Imagineering went much beyond tipping off the Merch guys that they were planning on bringing back the Hatbox Ghost for the 40th, and that it was a big deal. That was enough. The Merch guys went bonkers, especially the Pin people. When 2009 arrived, they were ready to <i>pounce</i>.</p><p><span style="color: #93c47d; font-size: x-large;">2009</span></p><p>And pounce they did! Suddenly, Hattie was everywhere. The overexposure was nauseating. They made him a "real estate agent," the host and mascot for the whole 40th celebration.</p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjBlwiXSusHihtCH2Re4Of1iXx5WLfqpFSoDBnuSR9irUQl7xJAn3SffcAKLjVl7IFXqmOkOJ2mca3UGOlskglblytLi1w9ubke5QLHFqRZwCFnBWob-5PmjuEgvD8YjcadG_MWbRiLceTn-kzgxSkQ9BwQgeKBjaEQCLY09-DzsOZKJg49euN9fVP9cA/s1586/%20DSPF2009_OpinHouse_FINAL%20copy.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="1586" data-original-width="1186" height="640" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjBlwiXSusHihtCH2Re4Of1iXx5WLfqpFSoDBnuSR9irUQl7xJAn3SffcAKLjVl7IFXqmOkOJ2mca3UGOlskglblytLi1w9ubke5QLHFqRZwCFnBWob-5PmjuEgvD8YjcadG_MWbRiLceTn-kzgxSkQ9BwQgeKBjaEQCLY09-DzsOZKJg49euN9fVP9cA/w478-h640/%20DSPF2009_OpinHouse_FINAL%20copy.jpg" width="478" /></a></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div><div style="text-align: center;">Pins, pins, and more pins . . .</div><div><br /><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjPboRjQRJw5K4L_B_e36fEgUk-nzdS-cwgsjk2hBsZPttJ5dhJ424cQRshGzFYXeoRTtxRtqn4tHcgRxHNZ8fPNiBwwvVohhNfwdtAjKsyf34VD3d5jBxiKhnKa0bVDiA3ZAjvJBch9vSJUqlPC2SAI2wBER5CJbFrxQw__KrPljpSDFM6J-9hAy5Mcw/s828/%201%201%201%201.png" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="642" data-original-width="828" height="496" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjPboRjQRJw5K4L_B_e36fEgUk-nzdS-cwgsjk2hBsZPttJ5dhJ424cQRshGzFYXeoRTtxRtqn4tHcgRxHNZ8fPNiBwwvVohhNfwdtAjKsyf34VD3d5jBxiKhnKa0bVDiA3ZAjvJBch9vSJUqlPC2SAI2wBER5CJbFrxQw__KrPljpSDFM6J-9hAy5Mcw/w640-h496/%201%201%201%201.png" width="640" /></a></div><p>Note the triptych, with Hattie on left and Connie on right. And these are just <i>some</i> of them. A box set of pins was marketed with Hattie standing right in the doorway of the Mansion, and he's even listed as one of the characters "found inside the attraction," as if his comeback were a <i>fait accompli. </i>Subtle as a hand grenade. </p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEizd0xxPz0-0YRakkqZPsR0v9b-B6fVvFCyzUIGDvl5W4rFs5EBy7AdqoalxJUUdyW-GpPy3A79xwosqYSSFVWibQU7KxM0sTNQOK-vnbngPr4_yyAbYMNvA9siSmnPr8M_S3i7vNdljrQZWS8BswaZ8rk_lpQISHU_hlUo2Xicf5pWyKco7R4Xrovcug/s681/jiy.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="681" data-original-width="574" height="640" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEizd0xxPz0-0YRakkqZPsR0v9b-B6fVvFCyzUIGDvl5W4rFs5EBy7AdqoalxJUUdyW-GpPy3A79xwosqYSSFVWibQU7KxM0sTNQOK-vnbngPr4_yyAbYMNvA9siSmnPr8M_S3i7vNdljrQZWS8BswaZ8rk_lpQISHU_hlUo2Xicf5pWyKco7R4Xrovcug/w540-h640/jiy.jpg" width="540" /></a></div><div><br /></div><div style="text-align: center;">They even had the poor guy writing copy for them:</div><div><br /><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEi3Y_zMuG93HUV_BFbJ77vsKBm47vKKSR-F5pMTIjeeVke5XhlHRB1G6LbVaOt0LX_aUiPMFdnfvqJP5RjSuxh7ZVQsPeKAPhEsRlOYjuugkfIvIGWbDPJnTljzp13Kfu3czp9BGd-DnMcCY14YLM7FWq3VukKxbw_Pj2q1qeDk6Cf13PSkHtFNqhvHAA/s1645/hiy.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="1645" data-original-width="1225" height="640" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEi3Y_zMuG93HUV_BFbJ77vsKBm47vKKSR-F5pMTIjeeVke5XhlHRB1G6LbVaOt0LX_aUiPMFdnfvqJP5RjSuxh7ZVQsPeKAPhEsRlOYjuugkfIvIGWbDPJnTljzp13Kfu3czp9BGd-DnMcCY14YLM7FWq3VukKxbw_Pj2q1qeDk6Cf13PSkHtFNqhvHAA/w476-h640/hiy.jpg" width="476" /></a></div><br /><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;">One thing that came out of all this was a clue that the storyline had been changed. It seems the Hatbox Ghost was no longer George but apparently was going to be introduced as a sixth husband (or fiancé). It's not explicit, though.</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiKZvw_vWeU5-4qpsowA6La8o0uD448bxYoWsV8o-DQ_0crgkUVl5i0wnjl44WyAUsXHZ-9qsQQ-tTkc-NzGK3VXbGwyblK1lFlTsyOJGHygViWYjae54ch7Yo_QB99jPMy34cTK6rWeDLeH6VE9V0QHeu0n4jaYuQLRGPhNaRbhxNGCOiz8OVNa5y_9g/s740/Sixth%20husband%20announced%20copy.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><span style="color: black;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><br /></span></span><img border="0" data-original-height="145" data-original-width="740" height="126" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiKZvw_vWeU5-4qpsowA6La8o0uD448bxYoWsV8o-DQ_0crgkUVl5i0wnjl44WyAUsXHZ-9qsQQ-tTkc-NzGK3VXbGwyblK1lFlTsyOJGHygViWYjae54ch7Yo_QB99jPMy34cTK6rWeDLeH6VE9V0QHeu0n4jaYuQLRGPhNaRbhxNGCOiz8OVNa5y_9g/w640-h126/Sixth%20husband%20announced%20copy.jpg" width="640" /></a></div><p><br /></p><p><span style="color: #93c47d; font-size: large;">Haunted Holidays</span></p><p>As if all of this weren't enough, Disney put together a "Haunted Holidays" website featuring a CGI Hatbox Ghost, voiced by Cory Burton, doing his best Paul Frees "Ghost Host" impersonation. Say what? So...the Hatbox Ghost is now the <i>Ghost Host?</i> Never mind. Once Merchandising gets ahold of things, nothing needs to make sense. He isn't the GH any more than he's Cousin Huet (see that gravestone prop above). Some of the Connie pins jumbled characters around in impossibly silly ways, too. This sort of thing is why I suspect the "coordination" with WDI was rather limited.</p><p><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiyL1UvMfNWCVqfGlKKHsGQJx-dE3LgXTYcJUBFDWaFN3wRr5713cS4Mf_4KsGvM5ChtE2rSfNZskvxbXmJlLbQSV-52Vdc175ztgNTcAoOH9hVkxUKx6pq8rvGQYXSx9l2sQTeMO-OfCW-AF0a8B1kvigJcbhWN1o2wCjp9ys76wTtJJ2z4qs3ZHQEjA/s780/mon%2012-21-09a.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em; text-align: center;"><img border="0" data-original-height="489" data-original-width="780" height="402" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiyL1UvMfNWCVqfGlKKHsGQJx-dE3LgXTYcJUBFDWaFN3wRr5713cS4Mf_4KsGvM5ChtE2rSfNZskvxbXmJlLbQSV-52Vdc175ztgNTcAoOH9hVkxUKx6pq8rvGQYXSx9l2sQTeMO-OfCW-AF0a8B1kvigJcbhWN1o2wCjp9ys76wTtJJ2z4qs3ZHQEjA/w640-h402/mon%2012-21-09a.jpg" width="640" /></a></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhKjfLreen4vFjnaOuke7bjXf2yE9NVMKIA0a9tXY6ID6B3jyZDol9N4H0HK3Ioi_l8Xp8DJat78qCrrwigoWZxJ1X6SSQ9KX04FZvNgd-4MZDx1aqaDWE8DnY-hadXDolvwduha6u_e-OMfx28JI5lpJBMmlBuHPCXQMY9ThffvrGj04K5iW0c6gePDA/s776/mon%2012-21%2009b.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="582" data-original-width="776" height="480" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhKjfLreen4vFjnaOuke7bjXf2yE9NVMKIA0a9tXY6ID6B3jyZDol9N4H0HK3Ioi_l8Xp8DJat78qCrrwigoWZxJ1X6SSQ9KX04FZvNgd-4MZDx1aqaDWE8DnY-hadXDolvwduha6u_e-OMfx28JI5lpJBMmlBuHPCXQMY9ThffvrGj04K5iW0c6gePDA/w640-h480/mon%2012-21%2009b.jpg" width="640" /></a></div><div><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEh9Z25jpLGjNsAaofsjegrDIUS6EvBJJFtQX14Brdp45mhzKksZmN_3et6cFhWvTF8oVxDczT3CSrOtYGmR5wRFoSu3hdjx52mhYIhHzjjqFshwI56XMNdrQLT2Xhxzr1k01n1TKCTJYGOyf1pPvTclegX-GcePk4rCeEY2lYtFBjOo9dmagnsNCb4Uog/s2560/Disney_Haunted_Holidays_Bkom_Digital_Mobile_Unique_2560x1920%20copy.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="1920" data-original-width="2560" height="480" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEh9Z25jpLGjNsAaofsjegrDIUS6EvBJJFtQX14Brdp45mhzKksZmN_3et6cFhWvTF8oVxDczT3CSrOtYGmR5wRFoSu3hdjx52mhYIhHzjjqFshwI56XMNdrQLT2Xhxzr1k01n1TKCTJYGOyf1pPvTclegX-GcePk4rCeEY2lYtFBjOo9dmagnsNCb4Uog/w640-h480/Disney_Haunted_Holidays_Bkom_Digital_Mobile_Unique_2560x1920%20copy.jpg" width="640" /></a></div><br /><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiIdenzMjHH28wrHnpoWea5ubJHww4zV5Y0BhJzvNsr2rdo_BPHvu5eWKx3WP08FG_dYZdUOZ4ZFFuguGJgNEaBRgLkDyDlgHC23wbivrs44vuhh3ZuZ4FhqcdsTl4FPHGLo60dBAq45cEGgaENT80fEu33ar74eKVVTFAy_8OcYT_Fp8ISnm98MRXIRQ/s799/454545%20copy.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="666" data-original-width="799" height="534" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiIdenzMjHH28wrHnpoWea5ubJHww4zV5Y0BhJzvNsr2rdo_BPHvu5eWKx3WP08FG_dYZdUOZ4ZFFuguGJgNEaBRgLkDyDlgHC23wbivrs44vuhh3ZuZ4FhqcdsTl4FPHGLo60dBAq45cEGgaENT80fEu33ar74eKVVTFAy_8OcYT_Fp8ISnm98MRXIRQ/w640-h534/454545%20copy.jpg" width="640" /></a></div><div><br /></div><div><br /></div><span style="color: #93c47d; font-size: large;">Enter Kevin and Jody</span></div><div><br /></div><div>Another big deal during 2009 was a project by model-builders and Disney artisans extraordinaire <a href="https://www.facebook.com/KevinandJody" target="_blank">Kevin Kidney and Jody Daily</a>. They created a <a href="https://miehana.blogspot.com/2009/08/happy-haunt-materialized-at-last-here.html" target="_blank">replica of the original Hatbox Ghost</a> to be sold at the D23 auction on September 9th. The figure was remarkably accurate in every way and put on display before the auction for several days.</div><div><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgwN2upIa68243c-XRfHr7AIOGbDZwXPfeQJhuuygoh2t8aKd-GQKiH9HL-kalh9IBgB2mFyXPi_p1A7wqqGCZQ3b8jorX0nh9FFTSPLvDQP1P7O3xfePcLpHwjxn_uoqXyd8o6R7-B_WSl9woaUOR8xkFZNvvTYC3xaekiLdjROY0W9Rr0Ofo87W0mvA/s1108/3928215473_2d4fe31beb_o%20copy%202.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="1108" data-original-width="695" height="640" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgwN2upIa68243c-XRfHr7AIOGbDZwXPfeQJhuuygoh2t8aKd-GQKiH9HL-kalh9IBgB2mFyXPi_p1A7wqqGCZQ3b8jorX0nh9FFTSPLvDQP1P7O3xfePcLpHwjxn_uoqXyd8o6R7-B_WSl9woaUOR8xkFZNvvTYC3xaekiLdjROY0W9Rr0Ofo87W0mvA/w402-h640/3928215473_2d4fe31beb_o%20copy%202.jpg" width="402" /></a></div><div style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #ea9999; font-size: x-small;">Kevin&Jody</span></div><br /><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjNVd31_HbQe2DTbJh7d1Si1tuxQiv2jBXWlpl7oTH6NWBiyeiB3boFweeHon17p3cD3fQ2n6T9YbjOkcYyCNrbu9Y_ISWP3hb9UURKdiaF1o0U2TfbOcOrbwXKiD7QqaZiBlfyIdRfb5sWA_jIBZrH_ywSc6hk48rU0-5DooVu2AA09vtd0yq5rzKpTw/s640/HBG%20at%20auction%20Ricky%20Brigante%20copy%202.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="640" data-original-width="480" height="640" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjNVd31_HbQe2DTbJh7d1Si1tuxQiv2jBXWlpl7oTH6NWBiyeiB3boFweeHon17p3cD3fQ2n6T9YbjOkcYyCNrbu9Y_ISWP3hb9UURKdiaF1o0U2TfbOcOrbwXKiD7QqaZiBlfyIdRfb5sWA_jIBZrH_ywSc6hk48rU0-5DooVu2AA09vtd0yq5rzKpTw/w480-h640/HBG%20at%20auction%20Ricky%20Brigante%20copy%202.jpg" width="480" /></a></div><div style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #e06666; font-size: x-small;">Ricky Brigante</span></div><div><br /><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgTP6HNQzCLnbVblMIchSwe07c81jKSGe01zWxK_Hu16so-TqJB_7aABUCIs-9ALeCTS0jCB_5yFTRxZt7SpodNRJIQlblHUAhvHUsZJmoNEgQxzlWaktsiZYktX37_e0wpK4t9VZ6RpztqyF4iyA9HtCWLInvihgZ2h1x2N9Gp9GAscos62YxWuXl3kA/s1393/auction%20copy%202.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="1126" data-original-width="1393" height="518" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgTP6HNQzCLnbVblMIchSwe07c81jKSGe01zWxK_Hu16so-TqJB_7aABUCIs-9ALeCTS0jCB_5yFTRxZt7SpodNRJIQlblHUAhvHUsZJmoNEgQxzlWaktsiZYktX37_e0wpK4t9VZ6RpztqyF4iyA9HtCWLInvihgZ2h1x2N9Gp9GAscos62YxWuXl3kA/w640-h518/auction%20copy%202.jpg" width="640" /></a></div><br /><div><div style="text-align: center;">It sold for $9400, which was less than I expected, actually. Today, I'm sure it would fetch a lot more.</div><div><br /></div><div>But that's not the most interesting part of this story. It occurred to someone that it would be fun to install the Kidney-Daily figure <i>in the attic of the Mansion</i> for the big event on September 9th, as a surprise to Mansion fans riding that evening. Just think of it. You would see an exact replica of the original Hatbox Ghost in his original spot! And think of the enhanced value to the figure as an auction item. Kevin and Jody thought it was a great idea.</div><div><br /></div><div>But it didn't happen. Union rules stated that items for auction had to be on site two days before the actual event, so the figure had to be at the convention center on the 7th. No, I don't understand it either, but Union rules are Union rules. Too bad! It would have been one of the coolest Mansion events <i>evuh</i>.</div><div><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjZh_nWvA73B9TaXdEEC2VTqbInwTTvfSgRocL8gJDG0iI9PHkh5Wsmye2Pd5X0G_-Spm-8y49SFIPxi2q2WkudhXTK1fE13h2xZ04VuLISjlfKlcURNS5XeC5-vIieMaYUM_W2qE4RwvMFX4wBpz4646Qkq6_0eRXHTGSNoS5fPndrR4ibcsUZ6F9pTw/s1023/tombsweettomb%20copy.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="850" data-original-width="1023" height="532" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjZh_nWvA73B9TaXdEEC2VTqbInwTTvfSgRocL8gJDG0iI9PHkh5Wsmye2Pd5X0G_-Spm-8y49SFIPxi2q2WkudhXTK1fE13h2xZ04VuLISjlfKlcURNS5XeC5-vIieMaYUM_W2qE4RwvMFX4wBpz4646Qkq6_0eRXHTGSNoS5fPndrR4ibcsUZ6F9pTw/w640-h532/tombsweettomb%20copy.jpg" width="640" /></a></div><div style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #e06666; font-size: x-small;">photoshop by Darkfairy</span></div></div><div><br /><div>What this also shows is that the actual HBG figure WDI had been working on was not going to be ready for the 40th anniversary no how, no way. Plans were quickly changed. The official word now was that he would be there in January 2010 after the HMH overlay came down. They even had the CGI Hatbox Ghost at the "Haunted Holidays" site tell viewers in December that he would "see them again in January."</div><div><br /></div><div><br /></div><div><span style="color: #93c47d; font-size: x-large;">2010</span></div><div><br /></div><div>Oh no he wouldn't. January came and went, and again, disappointment. It was all hush-hush, but already by the time of the convention in September plans for the new HBG had been scrapped. We are told that the cancelation was at the last minute and that the reason given was that they needed the funds for the Space Mountain "Ghost Galaxy." It's true that it was "last minute" (as Al Lutz reported at Micechat in May of 2010), but only if you mean "last minute before the big convention" and not "last minute before the January installation." At any rate, the HBG project was postponed indefinitely. Tony Baxter, who had been shepherding this project all along and who had been an early and enthusiastic Hatbox booster was <i>not </i>happy about this, let me tell ya. He was very much looking forward to seeing the new HBG installed in January, which in itself is evidence that the figure was ready to go or very nearly so.</div><div><br /></div><div><br /></div><div><span style="color: #93c47d; font-size: large;">What Did He Look Like?</span></div><div><br /></div><div>The special effects wizard in charge of bringing Hattie back to life (or afterlife) was John Gritz, by all counts the right man for the task.</div><div><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgXQVdox0VshDHZskuNXGfzQnJ4UAxqgmcYwHnqzpgXrOx8kGgRFezhGa8JnBwVFjP4ivYaz4VMLRg6hS7D8deKU_4kpUMVufnMKH6AgCTHOEONTimVWd218RyYtdRv6pPjygIfbKQuzonbKXhduaAhFBtoDmCfrMF-P5nUPMcFprxhmrfchsl9tubNQQ/s958/Screen%20Shot%202022-05-28%20at%209.08.14%20PM.png" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="793" data-original-width="958" height="530" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgXQVdox0VshDHZskuNXGfzQnJ4UAxqgmcYwHnqzpgXrOx8kGgRFezhGa8JnBwVFjP4ivYaz4VMLRg6hS7D8deKU_4kpUMVufnMKH6AgCTHOEONTimVWd218RyYtdRv6pPjygIfbKQuzonbKXhduaAhFBtoDmCfrMF-P5nUPMcFprxhmrfchsl9tubNQQ/w640-h530/Screen%20Shot%202022-05-28%20at%209.08.14%20PM.png" width="640" /></a></div><br /><div>We know that some of the same technology that had recently enabled the floating Mdm Leota at WDW to go to an inner-projection system was going to be used. Daniel Joseph (creator of the 2015 HBG) confirms that a working figure was indeed made. It was very clever, he says, but it took a lot of room and also did not allow the figure to move without a very complex arrangement. As for his appearance, we have one clue, and you will have to judge for yourself how much to make of it.</div><div><br /></div><div>We saw how the Pin people just went crazy over the Hatbox Ghost when WDI told them about their plans. Well, one of the products they came up with was a limited edition HBG figurine housing two pins, and there's something mighty weird about him.</div><div><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEifIRaFoLCKuC9knl_Rtspv_AYGLAzVpH8QxFv64Xc_pg1SlSHKA7H5jnZT2SDH4kTmVWJZMMzu5E4v5klSqdgYkML00JyO1J1_NUh6WYpFterS81BZd5nHqqYs_qr0eLUnKNZEbUUino-8xzzMFYD5Uuf36B5Mmk3Q9KFa6P_SGwbT6t5ZmQSwgG1H1A/s603/Screen%20Shot%202022-06-17%20at%202.46.20%20PM.png" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="602" data-original-width="603" height="638" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEifIRaFoLCKuC9knl_Rtspv_AYGLAzVpH8QxFv64Xc_pg1SlSHKA7H5jnZT2SDH4kTmVWJZMMzu5E4v5klSqdgYkML00JyO1J1_NUh6WYpFterS81BZd5nHqqYs_qr0eLUnKNZEbUUino-8xzzMFYD5Uuf36B5Mmk3Q9KFa6P_SGwbT6t5ZmQSwgG1H1A/w640-h638/Screen%20Shot%202022-06-17%20at%202.46.20%20PM.png" width="640" /></a></div><br /><div>You immediately notice that stack of stuff underneath the hatbox. Nothing quite like that has ever been seen, before or since. For some reason the Pin people also posted at their blogsite what looks like a schematic drawing of the figure, including front and side views, and it doesn't even show the pins. Furthermore (and not to get <i>too</i> picky), the resemblance to the actual figure, although very close, is not exact.</div></div><div><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgeCwoEXyqd5wnOnRUkYHim_jgcsbMD5zfqRoKmv76NF1aY6lNhAbNKL9hMwP8QVujIOxjYBNoE1h2sN48wF-Lij7reU6sj0ducwnRlxKZb6YlXOf9LyJc-K5H5TnPiN5AArZtQm8JCLOp6xVh7ybP1F8cPK9LMGgo_AkfzpAfClcE0mxlWgQEvlY5kpg/s1024/hbg%20wallpaper%20HMOH_Hatbox1024.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="768" data-original-width="1024" height="480" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgeCwoEXyqd5wnOnRUkYHim_jgcsbMD5zfqRoKmv76NF1aY6lNhAbNKL9hMwP8QVujIOxjYBNoE1h2sN48wF-Lij7reU6sj0ducwnRlxKZb6YlXOf9LyJc-K5H5TnPiN5AArZtQm8JCLOp6xVh7ybP1F8cPK9LMGgo_AkfzpAfClcE0mxlWgQEvlY5kpg/w640-h480/hbg%20wallpaper%20HMOH_Hatbox1024.jpg" width="640" /></a></div><br /><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgU9Ks5zYDKU0A1GcKugBnYGwl0Em9Vx7BlFQ9-PIDST_wt-HadjNGPN5brESxg02v7vEKailpUuNtFQO-WeroBT8ybPxZp1j-IjIqLUjUkQJjf2mrRldiXbewttVkxdLe0mYYi27X1gca9Cz2xTZRyhG8vhce6GA_nxwpICsHl-ss7muI0IZZIzEFwVQ/s382/Screen%20Shot%202022-06-17%20at%202.45.34%20PM.png" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="382" data-original-width="351" height="320" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgU9Ks5zYDKU0A1GcKugBnYGwl0Em9Vx7BlFQ9-PIDST_wt-HadjNGPN5brESxg02v7vEKailpUuNtFQO-WeroBT8ybPxZp1j-IjIqLUjUkQJjf2mrRldiXbewttVkxdLe0mYYi27X1gca9Cz2xTZRyhG8vhce6GA_nxwpICsHl-ss7muI0IZZIzEFwVQ/s320/Screen%20Shot%202022-06-17%20at%202.45.34%20PM.png" width="294" /></a></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div>I may be wrong, but I suspect that the schematic drawing was something given to them by WDI and may actually represent the Gritz figure in production at the time. It is easy to imagine a "Pepper's Ghost" illusion with a tilted glass inside the main hatbox reflecting a head directly below it in the stack, facing upward. We could be looking here at the only publicly-released depiction of <i>the Hatbox Ghost that never, but almost, was.</i></div><div><i><br /></i></div><div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhlfAHEp2_hCPVKCaD9Uv1RHVa_cFzJ_VgRFOPm5iQ2Y3IKnyxioNABmhpEz2_8e7TESizBUb5Xr9UesGBywbl6HRi0t8D7KPZ43okFrIKXmv_TqXwnivPVNx25tLwtI_Dz-4vO2EXBzgTmKzIHT9LiE8S6fCYYLfKdNiC7V--qM2jMyor44EtH5Ym8Cg/s955/Screen%20Shot%202022-06-20%20at%201.35.29%20PM.png" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="955" data-original-width="749" height="640" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhlfAHEp2_hCPVKCaD9Uv1RHVa_cFzJ_VgRFOPm5iQ2Y3IKnyxioNABmhpEz2_8e7TESizBUb5Xr9UesGBywbl6HRi0t8D7KPZ43okFrIKXmv_TqXwnivPVNx25tLwtI_Dz-4vO2EXBzgTmKzIHT9LiE8S6fCYYLfKdNiC7V--qM2jMyor44EtH5Ym8Cg/w502-h640/Screen%20Shot%202022-06-20%20at%201.35.29%20PM.png" width="502" /></a></div><br /><i><br /></i><div><div style="text-align: center;"><i style="color: #f1c232;"><span style="font-size: large;">*</span> Three</i><span style="color: #f1c232;">, of course, as of November of 2023, but the WDW HBG is merely a clone of the DL 2015 HBG.</span></div><div><i><br /></i></div><div style="text-align: center;"><i><span style="color: #e69138; font-size: x-large;">*******************</span></i></div></div></div></div>HBG2http://www.blogger.com/profile/05073387557562504315noreply@blogger.com12tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4444762441887107389.post-55498153812838765632022-03-19T10:56:00.025-07:002022-05-18T14:47:13.320-07:00"With Love Affectionate" UPDATED<p> A sequel and update to the previous post.</p><p><span style="color: #cc0000;">UPDATED March 27 and May 5. These items have apparently been there for years, but no one seems to have noticed them until recently.</span></p><p>During his last DL trip in March, my brother got lucky on his fifth Mansion trip and was pranky-spirited right in front of the new display, so we have a very nice photo of it:</p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEj3NrrQt4X5vFASCHDhFJOvsAJBBz_2v5D1Sw5t6EVwtDRDgWRX2kugG1qRXhLWL3SeUK7DC_lSmv-FuXwUxOm5cGAx4wvTgRPx-P_ZdwHMcP_plCboLTPraRgCnOtxFfHpf79I_y9eUJh65bDgWGLggQvGOSV3pzIPmlBrJJh8ThdEHMvF34nnTw0xUw=s1004" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="721" data-original-width="1004" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEj3NrrQt4X5vFASCHDhFJOvsAJBBz_2v5D1Sw5t6EVwtDRDgWRX2kugG1qRXhLWL3SeUK7DC_lSmv-FuXwUxOm5cGAx4wvTgRPx-P_ZdwHMcP_plCboLTPraRgCnOtxFfHpf79I_y9eUJh65bDgWGLggQvGOSV3pzIPmlBrJJh8ThdEHMvF34nnTw0xUw=s16000" /></a></div><br /><div><br /></div><div>We may have to wait for an obliging CM before we get a good look at the rest of it. Because there IS a "rest of it." The two floral arrangements to the right of this main one have small cards attached, and the banner on the wreath above "Affectionate" here has writing on it, as I suspected.</div><div><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEiT6pAno7WLjNZT8_hBXULihSaiXzQJkdM1aTrbGAYgTvH4Wzjd2l2dWcTavxwEBba6UuNb-ZQkAJjNo0uNIGTPAuiVEsca5L_U06n4Zy4Ghkiekp03tUAVjcBvCINFYBvxiIc0D-VC-0YNKUyrXd73m9oe_y_KYYA4EQiO90KoRt6AUBqWfy1yfk8Odw=s3436" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="1746" data-original-width="3436" height="326" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEiT6pAno7WLjNZT8_hBXULihSaiXzQJkdM1aTrbGAYgTvH4Wzjd2l2dWcTavxwEBba6UuNb-ZQkAJjNo0uNIGTPAuiVEsca5L_U06n4Zy4Ghkiekp03tUAVjcBvCINFYBvxiIc0D-VC-0YNKUyrXd73m9oe_y_KYYA4EQiO90KoRt6AUBqWfy1yfk8Odw=w640-h326" width="640" /></a></div><div><br /></div><div><span style="color: #ffd966;">FIRST UPDATE: An acquaintance of Jeff "the Chef" Baham was fortunate enough to have some pranky-spirit cooperation on his most recent DL trip and got a terrific photo of the Conservatory, which Jeff put up at the Doombuggies Facebook page:</span></div><div><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjv6uOnisyCVOJnvUYrrFnwsRhYdhZU8RQ4p3nU9aQPdVX1DHYSyXWPc02ydaRAfG_ZlstGqatqTt6AEcuNk8HTjIs5cG251pE3fEbrNuFuuDyp7Xx5YZkNscVivwlUP8ZJVHU5AMsJIcUXFo7WGCgX9UeMiMZPbp7TGEjPNdAgVFjfJVSFB4hDu0TiMg/s1440/277662275_10159065637794613_5552215197185113209_n.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="1440" data-original-width="1440" height="640" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjv6uOnisyCVOJnvUYrrFnwsRhYdhZU8RQ4p3nU9aQPdVX1DHYSyXWPc02ydaRAfG_ZlstGqatqTt6AEcuNk8HTjIs5cG251pE3fEbrNuFuuDyp7Xx5YZkNscVivwlUP8ZJVHU5AMsJIcUXFo7WGCgX9UeMiMZPbp7TGEjPNdAgVFjfJVSFB4hDu0TiMg/w640-h640/277662275_10159065637794613_5552215197185113209_n.jpg" width="640" /></a></div><div style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #e06666;">Julia's boyfriend</span></div><div><br /></div><div style="text-align: center;">The banner reads, "Dearly Departed Father."</div><div><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjbdEOe02tOR5FxWVzsXMsw1eiZko9RkCB6FwDee3n9Q2URNYd_tNmGagO1uB4DldChrBpmVpDVIUm4xggxV8sLYIniXOTeeameOv_TSN0ZndaM-HigJT2t_4yh91RQ99bVkGuNJzByWCxIjxoIMM3G7Iub271dnt2UlBqeSChCRLw3GbtM9xqg9D0nBw/s512/Screen%20Shot%202022-03-29%20at%209.56.09%20AM.png" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="512" data-original-width="431" height="640" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjbdEOe02tOR5FxWVzsXMsw1eiZko9RkCB6FwDee3n9Q2URNYd_tNmGagO1uB4DldChrBpmVpDVIUm4xggxV8sLYIniXOTeeameOv_TSN0ZndaM-HigJT2t_4yh91RQ99bVkGuNJzByWCxIjxoIMM3G7Iub271dnt2UlBqeSChCRLw3GbtM9xqg9D0nBw/w539-h640/Screen%20Shot%202022-03-29%20at%209.56.09%20AM.png" width="539" /></a></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;">Very authentically Victorian:</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj4CliqzJDAsgKhw6F-alcpJwVlRk1DJOtm37jd6tuFiC6cBgbrxeraYKR8pzBwgPMaQmZ17e3DL2f0Y2FSpY5s5fAohlRoL590HTFgbvTEuQ6Ua0ZioZU6WmZu_UQHkruWJwAkizMpcYcXBTOjgeMdEeAbMd0BksPaREUCP7XPdXd1Y6squExvdwtr6g/s600/shopping.jpeg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="587" data-original-width="600" height="626" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj4CliqzJDAsgKhw6F-alcpJwVlRk1DJOtm37jd6tuFiC6cBgbrxeraYKR8pzBwgPMaQmZ17e3DL2f0Y2FSpY5s5fAohlRoL590HTFgbvTEuQ6Ua0ZioZU6WmZu_UQHkruWJwAkizMpcYcXBTOjgeMdEeAbMd0BksPaREUCP7XPdXd1Y6squExvdwtr6g/w640-h626/shopping.jpeg" width="640" /></a></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;">One of the smaller cards is an authentic Victorian funeral invitation:</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhh4_r97DPHl5KgCsaAXUpcfVzvz-AIUGApNJpTKyQ7innI-a3g7PLZbawPTfeALAgV7oLGF_9wmLxx1tNisH9qdqIg91ZjcxZ94HmiPJ05uj-WHX1JxE83D-9rr1B6HIT7goU5lMcM6MmhK4WoQLr8P8MMWUZ0epPny7KBigyoTP8mu8mJhzzkyEctFg/s838/Screen%20Shot%202022-03-29%20at%209.55.55%20AM.png" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="641" data-original-width="838" height="490" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhh4_r97DPHl5KgCsaAXUpcfVzvz-AIUGApNJpTKyQ7innI-a3g7PLZbawPTfeALAgV7oLGF_9wmLxx1tNisH9qdqIg91ZjcxZ94HmiPJ05uj-WHX1JxE83D-9rr1B6HIT7goU5lMcM6MmhK4WoQLr8P8MMWUZ0epPny7KBigyoTP8mu8mJhzzkyEctFg/w640-h490/Screen%20Shot%202022-03-29%20at%209.55.55%20AM.png" width="640" /></a></div><div><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj3rmI1YbWj5xPd9OgiARuSD8ib5pewvJenYEKdDh9IG2snzZkjaopZhEsM2dQ_5LaDZQ0G1X6maP1OHkZ1WH5W2Epm1Aim5UsiFnUgAC1lfIQ6gzdG8wO93PZO8R9-NKdowhlSwO47gAeo9DV_DC3Erg2nMD66sRponSmISlu5vGaSqPYBuZIfmqVvLw/s611/sideways.png" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="366" data-original-width="611" height="384" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj3rmI1YbWj5xPd9OgiARuSD8ib5pewvJenYEKdDh9IG2snzZkjaopZhEsM2dQ_5LaDZQ0G1X6maP1OHkZ1WH5W2Epm1Aim5UsiFnUgAC1lfIQ6gzdG8wO93PZO8R9-NKdowhlSwO47gAeo9DV_DC3Erg2nMD66sRponSmISlu5vGaSqPYBuZIfmqVvLw/w640-h384/sideways.png" width="640" /></a></div><br /><table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"><tbody><tr><td style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjBTiI4WqtxUFWZH0HoweL3V_D-MfBXwLmg5LWe8XNpQp5n_i61GBNyLM7DEIpabksAxCynlRWrmDfJidWoVi5HKtcSQou-E452KQqCrhTSbcKZn6mZiFQiAkNys7Z2NFe7k_c88PoAoadffHUtSWd3ePVAb4QWDc6juFUzLfLS5yehJ0DU8R_nCJS_qA/s1000/funeral%20invite.png" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"><img border="0" data-original-height="612" data-original-width="1000" height="392" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjBTiI4WqtxUFWZH0HoweL3V_D-MfBXwLmg5LWe8XNpQp5n_i61GBNyLM7DEIpabksAxCynlRWrmDfJidWoVi5HKtcSQou-E452KQqCrhTSbcKZn6mZiFQiAkNys7Z2NFe7k_c88PoAoadffHUtSWd3ePVAb4QWDc6juFUzLfLS5yehJ0DU8R_nCJS_qA/w640-h392/funeral%20invite.png" width="640" /></a></td></tr><tr><td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"><i><span style="color: #f1c232;">"...The Coach to Attend at Half past Seven a Clock in the Morning"</span></i></td></tr></tbody></table><br /><div><span style="color: #fcff01;">SECOND UPDATE; Until now (May 2022), I have theorized that the "With Love Affectionate" card, the "Dearly Departed" banner, and the smaller cards were all part of the "enhauntsments" of April 2021 and that they were entirely overlooked until the "Love Affectionate" card was repositioned in a <i>very</i> conspicuous spot following the 2021-22 HMH. Here's the scene in April of 2021. It's all easy to miss:</span></div><div><div><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg-z-xj6IIdEEtZTsCiVsquj7WUdCZoxpm-_LTPfSMqIywBqqsotURLKABDqsYPILaajBb_XE2JjA10nA1hSjma_zmeVfG1sFxICEdCoJkQT-xB_cPvUuxPWq58GC2G-YiGX9PjhJ_wtoUrueaXN9iPeX6nikC5swQMK63NzJho7UyYWKJq4cOt7pmsLw/s696/image-168.jpeg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="463" data-original-width="696" height="426" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg-z-xj6IIdEEtZTsCiVsquj7WUdCZoxpm-_LTPfSMqIywBqqsotURLKABDqsYPILaajBb_XE2JjA10nA1hSjma_zmeVfG1sFxICEdCoJkQT-xB_cPvUuxPWq58GC2G-YiGX9PjhJ_wtoUrueaXN9iPeX6nikC5swQMK63NzJho7UyYWKJq4cOt7pmsLw/w640-h426/image-168.jpeg" width="640" /></a></div><br /><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEii5sFiaoWnJ2FAVpgAjt_ly1rCitousfs4nL5KHx4RBB_lacMs7Mdh0dQTMWHGqseZWjitxyw5wVFUBdKRxTQ88sQLI3CQKUk9lY_lcA0mvE55wS-XYSuCE4eGUFQ4tR_smPUA9beRu9rJB-K_aJ9T3Ch8znJ9ti1n5eF3ZbvyCDhDjLCs_LBQlDk6Ng/s458/Screen%20Shot%202022-03-27%20at%204.33.45%20PM.png" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="436" data-original-width="458" height="381" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEii5sFiaoWnJ2FAVpgAjt_ly1rCitousfs4nL5KHx4RBB_lacMs7Mdh0dQTMWHGqseZWjitxyw5wVFUBdKRxTQ88sQLI3CQKUk9lY_lcA0mvE55wS-XYSuCE4eGUFQ4tR_smPUA9beRu9rJB-K_aJ9T3Ch8znJ9ti1n5eF3ZbvyCDhDjLCs_LBQlDk6Ng/w400-h381/Screen%20Shot%202022-03-27%20at%204.33.45%20PM.png" width="400" /></a></div><div><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEieEpTDQrH3nH0hRoDAyFvzMrsC75411hg02ahVqx54cdSJyCgQ3vdMSF3kQXnQ9gt8En0XZO2UZj0RF09HLgOsNpdvEEb3pXl0616z0gJwjuPpNs1Sb7z86Ty_zFlhjDhpwAxF3Drs-vft9J66JNmzOW549JkiLu0O7LsimRjcRWTZWL9bibe40EwcqQ/s674/Screen%20Shot%202022-03-29%20at%209.59.36%20AM.png" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="495" data-original-width="674" height="470" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEieEpTDQrH3nH0hRoDAyFvzMrsC75411hg02ahVqx54cdSJyCgQ3vdMSF3kQXnQ9gt8En0XZO2UZj0RF09HLgOsNpdvEEb3pXl0616z0gJwjuPpNs1Sb7z86Ty_zFlhjDhpwAxF3Drs-vft9J66JNmzOW549JkiLu0O7LsimRjcRWTZWL9bibe40EwcqQ/w640-h470/Screen%20Shot%202022-03-29%20at%209.59.36%20AM.png" width="640" /></a></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><span style="color: #fcff01;"><br /></span></div><span style="color: #fcff01;">But thanks to the eagle eye of MasterGracey, it seems that these items have been around for <i>years</i>. You can see what looks like the "Love Affectionate" card as well as a smaller card (unidentified) in the bouquet on top of the coffin in this 2016 video grab. (Incidentally, the presence of some sort of floral arrangement on top of the coffin has alternated with bare nothingness between the candlesticks over the years. The flux has been so constant and the floral arrangements have been so varied that it's not worth the bother to try to track it.)</span></div><div><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiD0DzCh13tBVKRwc1GxrCqnsazblq_pt0Q1wBIPte8ygWwyybbsoEqmDUR1-IHdm_u7YX5dpmOoo2pk_0vmAGUWeBEq11soLnqcyHJpsQRep7ohb8EZWbqDgTe1HbteC78vLsrYVc7bY3fZg0o43CQ2-we0M0wVOcZurO1eqj2EpQoSmO8o5E-yppNqQ/s1068/Screen%20Shot%202022-05-05%20at%2010.17.38%20AM.png" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="679" data-original-width="1068" height="406" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiD0DzCh13tBVKRwc1GxrCqnsazblq_pt0Q1wBIPte8ygWwyybbsoEqmDUR1-IHdm_u7YX5dpmOoo2pk_0vmAGUWeBEq11soLnqcyHJpsQRep7ohb8EZWbqDgTe1HbteC78vLsrYVc7bY3fZg0o43CQ2-we0M0wVOcZurO1eqj2EpQoSmO8o5E-yppNqQ/w640-h406/Screen%20Shot%202022-05-05%20at%2010.17.38%20AM.png" width="640" /></a></div><br /><div><span style="color: #fcff01;">The "Dearly Departed Father" banner is in the wreath to the<i> right </i>of the coffin, not visible in the above photo, but it IS visible in photos going back as far as 2011! Here it is on the right side in 2016 (top pic), and that's probably it also in 2011 (bottom pic). (I've turned the pix sideways to make identification easier:)</span></div><div><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjlK2EuqhcB1nCsEiDJKYP1dm-UdEoVS8E0TXknV0EJgVMhZJvtuA4j6Za_9-6QClWP5X2_OLJFwgj9x2p3io0WEBnkzolMCcylBVnP6uxcR4XEtens8pMEDkHV5f08aAnTUq7Eerg41cRUjYNuCQqIvX3RnqtAiDOXNJMtJuF2ZNX07QP1qLNoAlNsTQ/s748/Screen%20Shot%202022-05-05%20at%202.50.19%20PM.png" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="748" data-original-width="542" height="640" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjlK2EuqhcB1nCsEiDJKYP1dm-UdEoVS8E0TXknV0EJgVMhZJvtuA4j6Za_9-6QClWP5X2_OLJFwgj9x2p3io0WEBnkzolMCcylBVnP6uxcR4XEtens8pMEDkHV5f08aAnTUq7Eerg41cRUjYNuCQqIvX3RnqtAiDOXNJMtJuF2ZNX07QP1qLNoAlNsTQ/w464-h640/Screen%20Shot%202022-05-05%20at%202.50.19%20PM.png" width="464" /></a></div><div><div style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #b45f06;">Adapted from pix found at</span><span style="color: #fce5cd;"> <a href="https://www.davelandweb.com/hauntedmansion/index2.html#corridor" target="_blank">Davelandweb</a></span></div><div><br /></div><div><br /></div><div style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #fcff01; font-size: x-large;">*********************</span></div></div>HBG2http://www.blogger.com/profile/05073387557562504315noreply@blogger.com8tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4444762441887107389.post-46295625507003116362022-03-03T22:19:00.006-08:002022-05-05T16:10:10.037-07:00Something Old, Something New, Something Borrowed, Something Grue...some<p>Some <span style="color: red;">new</span> items have been noticed at the Anaheim Mansion since the seasonal HMH has been retired for 2022. One has gotten a lot of attention, the other one hardly any, and yet it is the second one that is the really good one (and, <a href="https://longforgottenhauntedmansion.blogspot.com/2022/03/with-love-affectionate.html" target="_blank">it turns out</a>, isn't entirely new). It represents something very <span style="color: red;">old </span>fashioned. That in turn leads us to consideration of something rather <span style="color: red;">gruesome</span> but fun, and finally, we end the post with a postscript to the <a href="https://longforgottenhauntedmansion.blogspot.com/2022/01/maleficents-torture-chamber.html" target="_blank">previous post</a> about Maleficent's torture chamber in the Sleeping Beauty walk-thru, and that one is all about <span style="color: red;">borrowing</span>. So there you have it.<br /></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-size: large;"><span style="color: #93c47d;">Something New </span></span><br /></p><p>A couple of things, actually. People have noticed that a replica of the Haunted Mansion is now perched next to the Ambrose tableau in the attic:</p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEgG9LSti8kkuF-j7GbwgEOgjVKPHn_itBZ5JjynlX5dDPUL_GB8K0v3ihidW-BUr7fljFcEGasDawvVVXKgBLug-79qzVu3fZExX3Dxq37b1hTvxfEZDsr9dnq9Xe82PQWUOsxcOr5-JTvQ8amtT8i9xp4aItH9CmjJ4dwzfdD4ZFt2zHVUWGQUiKjJRA=s1200" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="837" data-original-width="1200" height="446" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEgG9LSti8kkuF-j7GbwgEOgjVKPHn_itBZ5JjynlX5dDPUL_GB8K0v3ihidW-BUr7fljFcEGasDawvVVXKgBLug-79qzVu3fZExX3Dxq37b1hTvxfEZDsr9dnq9Xe82PQWUOsxcOr5-JTvQ8amtT8i9xp4aItH9CmjJ4dwzfdD4ZFt2zHVUWGQUiKjJRA=w640-h446" width="640" /></a></div><div style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #9fc5e8;">pic SFgate</span></div><div style="text-align: center;"><br /></div><div style="text-align: left;">I really don't understand it at all. Everybody keeps saying, "Oh, it's a dollhouse!" and I guess that's what it HAS to be, but to my eye it looks more like a modern, plasticky piece of ©Disney merch than an authentic Victorian dollhouse. And as if to drive the point home, directly behind it there is what looks very much like . . . an authentic Victorian dollhouse! That one has been there for years. Why add another one right next to it? Sorry, I just don't get it.<br /></div><div style="text-align: left;"><br /></div><div style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEhD_J7FccxWu9LbpGOCXgCwS3OffAnEtomavtg-qnaEEtPVKGjag8CcpsET-MzQA9wDXV8Ei4ei1mSBixcF4kXjHYUK2OrhU79dm5ENzJg3aL6gSy1piuPDEI5VDl9n0843SBFGSp4GPotiG32P8JqfaQxYqAZGLLaryG6XG5Etxdcm9O9Cs0FvXNkMzw=s720"><img border="0" data-original-height="720" data-original-width="720" height="640" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEhD_J7FccxWu9LbpGOCXgCwS3OffAnEtomavtg-qnaEEtPVKGjag8CcpsET-MzQA9wDXV8Ei4ei1mSBixcF4kXjHYUK2OrhU79dm5ENzJg3aL6gSy1piuPDEI5VDl9n0843SBFGSp4GPotiG32P8JqfaQxYqAZGLLaryG6XG5Etxdcm9O9Cs0FvXNkMzw=w640-h640" width="640" /></a></div><br /><div style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #e06666;">EDIT (4/14/22): Congrats to Dalton Whiteside at FB for identifying the source of the model:</span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><br /></div><table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"><tbody><tr><td style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhpKnItEE6oBHeUI46D4C-Y8SGsAHH_lonVWzWDq20BDCtubVc-U6v7FBL8fdgKrOGfwdinXBmcQQ9cqQg49J5j7Cdp-DJ22R0chAo8LcpmZTK9DtWBU3ZOcI_AQYrpV5JI2fh_Ol-nwge1IHjfH7B5wExGZ6J_XtpxdYYRtIywkRiNjFcDqOIJOn-9cA/s937/model%20sourc.jpg" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"><img border="0" data-original-height="824" data-original-width="937" height="562" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhpKnItEE6oBHeUI46D4C-Y8SGsAHH_lonVWzWDq20BDCtubVc-U6v7FBL8fdgKrOGfwdinXBmcQQ9cqQg49J5j7Cdp-DJ22R0chAo8LcpmZTK9DtWBU3ZOcI_AQYrpV5JI2fh_Ol-nwge1IHjfH7B5wExGZ6J_XtpxdYYRtIywkRiNjFcDqOIJOn-9cA/w640-h562/model%20sourc.jpg" width="640" /></a></td></tr><tr><td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"><br /></td></tr></tbody></table><br /><div style="text-align: left;">Anyway, I'm not going to grouse too much about this, because there is ANOTHER new addition to the ride that has received almost no attention and is very nice indeed. In fact, I'm giving it the coveted Long-Forgotten seal of approval.<span style="color: #0b5394;"> <i>*golf claps*</i></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"> </div><div style="text-align: left;"> </div><div style="text-align: left;"><span style="color: #93c47d;"><span style="font-size: large;">Something Old</span></span><br /></div><div style="text-align: left;"><br /></div><div style="text-align: left;">Old-fashioned, that is. In the Conservatory, they've done some sprucing up of the floral arrangements around the coffin. Most importantly, something has attracted attention on the left-hand side, on the floor, below the raven:<br /></div><div style="text-align: left;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEgFtcAO9GCDdnnPlKBGJBhhXCLL6XvxJjr778MEXdXzrPz-yZXZ19K3b9u3RoGl038dM4XXvO1T3zVxfi-1YNsyEPnRqbO0DlCoc4ooIPl6ZJknIkv9mf-J7_NXttOlv4qPLzm8SZpV7Hgncz4PmU3JyR6DWwYSMcpjdN6K_WDJPY_fFJE9zjmdgFd6Ag=s383" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="383" data-original-width="284" height="400" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEgFtcAO9GCDdnnPlKBGJBhhXCLL6XvxJjr778MEXdXzrPz-yZXZ19K3b9u3RoGl038dM4XXvO1T3zVxfi-1YNsyEPnRqbO0DlCoc4ooIPl6ZJknIkv9mf-J7_NXttOlv4qPLzm8SZpV7Hgncz4PmU3JyR6DWwYSMcpjdN6K_WDJPY_fFJE9zjmdgFd6Ag=w297-h400" width="297" /></a> </div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><span style="color: #f1c232;">pic by Shannon Nesbitt</span></div><p style="text-align: center;"> <span style="color: #ea9999;"><span style="font-size: large;">"With Love Affectionate, Father Husband."</span></span></p><p>Hardly anyone seems to have noticed it, and even when they have, it's been a killer to photograph. I've been begging someone to try to get a good shot for weeks, and dear Shannon at the FB HM fanclub site finally came through with one just today. Kudos, Shann. Until now we've had to make do with fuzzy screen grabs off of videos, like this. (See the raven, top right?)<br /></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEgM9UH6yhqeql0Jpw64QjfOewFl8A4cWnxwDLCos_ROAhWC42faUPtc_E6ndRC_rQ_km4t0J1i_e6h6hMp_Y3l7zonPdebijqk18F9jiiiPcmKp0pU9F6IwjKDGR7zP0qUFdAtEDemRalHp7Qkr69NsaieB24ofuYkrVVRhAQGqCRZbnNB0wCm0aoXI_A=s576" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="576" data-original-width="449" height="640" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEgM9UH6yhqeql0Jpw64QjfOewFl8A4cWnxwDLCos_ROAhWC42faUPtc_E6ndRC_rQ_km4t0J1i_e6h6hMp_Y3l7zonPdebijqk18F9jiiiPcmKp0pU9F6IwjKDGR7zP0qUFdAtEDemRalHp7Qkr69NsaieB24ofuYkrVVRhAQGqCRZbnNB0wCm0aoXI_A=w498-h640" width="498" /></a></div><p style="text-align: center;"><br /></p><p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #04ff00; font-size: medium;">UPDATE: New and better pictures</span> <a href="https://longforgottenhauntedmansion.blogspot.com/2022/03/with-love-affectionate.html" target="_blank">HERE</a>.</p><p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #b6d7a8;">It turns out that these items have been around for some time, but the big card has been in a different spot, harder to see.</span></p><p style="text-align: center;">So what is it? Well, what it<i> appears </i>to be is an authentic bit of Victoriana.</p><p style="text-align: center;">Them Vics loved them some personalized floral arrangements at funerals.</p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEjIJofHeIwlDnI-76MWiWzexIXX7wBKfbOP3-zRDkSMPYYjpL7-33wVNC_TGiR6A_IRaq2VkI6tPxgBcYcWo65Ip8DiU64jGs8OGi_DDRxbc8u3V0dkcj5M4PM6yFiYZkfAVy5x2gYsjEuMD4VpsJAxArLq-7wTGszgGWrHCbiQ7Uop_27fRahEbtuPWQ=s550" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="476" data-original-width="550" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEjIJofHeIwlDnI-76MWiWzexIXX7wBKfbOP3-zRDkSMPYYjpL7-33wVNC_TGiR6A_IRaq2VkI6tPxgBcYcWo65Ip8DiU64jGs8OGi_DDRxbc8u3V0dkcj5M4PM6yFiYZkfAVy5x2gYsjEuMD4VpsJAxArLq-7wTGszgGWrHCbiQ7Uop_27fRahEbtuPWQ=s16000" /></a></div><br /><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEjIEdvdGPDVzlMvE6DfEOR6gGSRt7QIyFGPBRwZG9UqOPOFSHbAY3N__d5THKyGUKZvE4qn2iCAhrF9k6JQMJ9e3My2kwfjwK9Fk6UIpw7x8MtLWdg0VS6o0bqr-o3kDs5OO2eBfPjAXDCA4tYNWaLPqTNPcjmsRpsxJr8fCmM0L0RY56oB65BqCUkaxg=s666" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="499" data-original-width="666" height="480" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEjIEdvdGPDVzlMvE6DfEOR6gGSRt7QIyFGPBRwZG9UqOPOFSHbAY3N__d5THKyGUKZvE4qn2iCAhrF9k6JQMJ9e3My2kwfjwK9Fk6UIpw7x8MtLWdg0VS6o0bqr-o3kDs5OO2eBfPjAXDCA4tYNWaLPqTNPcjmsRpsxJr8fCmM0L0RY56oB65BqCUkaxg=w640-h480" width="640" /></a></div><p></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEhKdQ9NxhmAtH3gchOkJ_d8t13wzZApnU24IrN3AMMp1o2EwI4MMqqbdyM9NlvAwuple3m9Fv89kuxVUEiTxNH7tf_2lzLwHFCEc4LPk7bciJmtOUqBDOfxWedNUJ6GRgotFPx35PNO6-AxEj7TcXgM765icGFfRSicIsCTf0cCtBLs9qLuNtI7tWENJQ=s600" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="483" data-original-width="600" height="516" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEhKdQ9NxhmAtH3gchOkJ_d8t13wzZApnU24IrN3AMMp1o2EwI4MMqqbdyM9NlvAwuple3m9Fv89kuxVUEiTxNH7tf_2lzLwHFCEc4LPk7bciJmtOUqBDOfxWedNUJ6GRgotFPx35PNO6-AxEj7TcXgM765icGFfRSicIsCTf0cCtBLs9qLuNtI7tWENJQ=w640-h516" width="640" /></a></div><p></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEi99HM_4usnFupohKmM5BjvcALlERUtMObdTpWHNweVZ-beqkEyNfX2plLd-PeuzpdWdSvtOCWmEAue2VQs-2oM8VmCKthVZRapFEcwbC_PLkaqmTxrgZ8v9E5gDRaclpbzYOchbAMs0vouiLiD_AuSwQzQGhelh6ZEv7-UloFiiznd1KXI3gBbQVIoBw=s745" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="609" data-original-width="745" height="524" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEi99HM_4usnFupohKmM5BjvcALlERUtMObdTpWHNweVZ-beqkEyNfX2plLd-PeuzpdWdSvtOCWmEAue2VQs-2oM8VmCKthVZRapFEcwbC_PLkaqmTxrgZ8v9E5gDRaclpbzYOchbAMs0vouiLiD_AuSwQzQGhelh6ZEv7-UloFiiznd1KXI3gBbQVIoBw=w640-h524" width="640" /></a></div><p></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEghwETauPmCPnY9WCvYsUn-KVtsyDAVgXGBXvqer1bs_bzQbFT37IX2ULO-0rCs7Kf2JexwHTg3j23oxY8cCpsBWSB4FgHDZfxuV_uoACBzhPRlOn7EO8fgYzqUpYir2p88e8zCEQCEYoLBahaqSbGim4mq2erb5jKL93u5TmAB_CuS_SFpssYz6WSYsA=s575" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="337" data-original-width="575" height="376" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEghwETauPmCPnY9WCvYsUn-KVtsyDAVgXGBXvqer1bs_bzQbFT37IX2ULO-0rCs7Kf2JexwHTg3j23oxY8cCpsBWSB4FgHDZfxuV_uoACBzhPRlOn7EO8fgYzqUpYir2p88e8zCEQCEYoLBahaqSbGim4mq2erb5jKL93u5TmAB_CuS_SFpssYz6WSYsA=w640-h376" width="640" /></a></div><p></p><p>I <i>really</i> like this addition for a number of reasons. First, it's subtle, understated, and unannounced, like all good HM enhauntsments should be. Second, the difficulty in noticing it and deciphering it, let alone photographing it, only makes it more agreeable to my tastes. Call me perverse.<span style="color: #8e7cc3;"> (Just don't do it too loudly and too often or the patrol dogs might find you and hit you with the ban stick. That's life on social media these days, kids.) </span>It's a secret Mansion goodie only us hardcore know about (at least at this point). Third, the thing itself is not cutesie or cartoony or cynically calculated to sell more tacky HM merch. On the contrary, this little enhauntsment serves no obvious purpose other than to emphasize that the house is a <i><a href="https://longforgottenhauntedmansion.blogspot.com/2011/05/lets-get-real.html" target="_blank">normal, historically accurate Victorian house</a> </i>that happens to be haunted. Which is the correct exegesis of the Mansion.<br /></p><p>Gee, what with the Hatbox Ghost, the April-December portrait, and now this, I have to say I'm mostly pleased with the tone of most of the enhauntsments in Anaheim over the last decade or so. (The new berm graveyard was mostly okay, too.) Maybe I'm just getting soft in my old age? <i>Naaaah.</i> </p><p> </p><p><span style="color: #93c47d;"><span style="font-size: large;">Something Grue - some</span></span></p><p>The "borrowed" thing belongs in a postscript below, so not only are we mangling the jingle but we're going out of order. Call me perverse.</p><p>(Oh yes, please do).</p><p>That new bit of Victoriana in the Conservatory is actually a perfect set-up for this next item. I've always known that the Vics were pretty eccentric and had morbid senses of humor, but I didn't realize that one of their predilections was perfectly in tune with the Mansion's attic portraits. You all know how all of Connie's husbands' heads come and go. Here they are gone, which is much the more difficult phase to photograph, but Daveland, you rock, brother.<br /></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEgiNTkTmPBEt8YWOzsCLF8usvN9LH1nnfNTV7owb8hhEiAc53eE5ZRtOye8vaO0rorUeOxX357Bf6nNJmj_9jPwT4oUzwPTgFbiUR2ewCODpuDFDOg3p7Xu5flcf1JpxmGvR9DBebC1sOGOJVoOKcKv949i_ve9qGn7bCZJ23dNikD_1CZLcY-3U0cbEA=s900" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="598" data-original-width="900" height="425" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEgiNTkTmPBEt8YWOzsCLF8usvN9LH1nnfNTV7owb8hhEiAc53eE5ZRtOye8vaO0rorUeOxX357Bf6nNJmj_9jPwT4oUzwPTgFbiUR2ewCODpuDFDOg3p7Xu5flcf1JpxmGvR9DBebC1sOGOJVoOKcKv949i_ve9qGn7bCZJ23dNikD_1CZLcY-3U0cbEA=w640-h425" width="640" /></a></div><br /><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEjnBn3HP2YXRlr0L-e4EnLZ9xROXJzwCUREZwFmhWCLTvLQva42ACrp4mpNjHeJOE9MAD6rQt05rx2HcCZavj84XgYC_fkGv1gxYAG-uydz8vHCXv9EK8t8lpumd_dXNPnCvJhD1kaf21bUK1a1Wt9nJQ0_bAuhW4iY5S2RhLJnGXgBeNkYJmWBPpYZxw=s900" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="598" data-original-width="900" height="425" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEjnBn3HP2YXRlr0L-e4EnLZ9xROXJzwCUREZwFmhWCLTvLQva42ACrp4mpNjHeJOE9MAD6rQt05rx2HcCZavj84XgYC_fkGv1gxYAG-uydz8vHCXv9EK8t8lpumd_dXNPnCvJhD1kaf21bUK1a1Wt9nJQ0_bAuhW4iY5S2RhLJnGXgBeNkYJmWBPpYZxw=w640-h425" width="640" /></a></div><br /><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEhC2MbfKJPMo5O8QDkBw4Di1xdufWQIHYLnYHC5it99D9P5D3R_KUtUMEPt2tMkkAaqQGsf0ori52IvuYKx_rkBO2GIFt05MRqeZUBxtvWMn-BRAV_mXueCVf1mzxrrDqrByozb5DYTkVvpLsv9m3dfS3Ek_3x0MLmGeQGoBRL_zSb9pSH50iVtbv43xw=s900" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="624" data-original-width="900" height="444" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEhC2MbfKJPMo5O8QDkBw4Di1xdufWQIHYLnYHC5it99D9P5D3R_KUtUMEPt2tMkkAaqQGsf0ori52IvuYKx_rkBO2GIFt05MRqeZUBxtvWMn-BRAV_mXueCVf1mzxrrDqrByozb5DYTkVvpLsv9m3dfS3Ek_3x0MLmGeQGoBRL_zSb9pSH50iVtbv43xw=w640-h444" width="640" /></a></div><br /><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEhzMEw9dCjgZjZIUySBKkp22bzZ9j9vOzDrahzrgHqvT1AIfcAQFaXo7-NWxTHJXk4jFMKgXWTSJBlRAWDB3qBDpysjZJefUIZEGxX1HPl1fQ801HnkbCdeARYi8sltigmlmogrYltuFf-Ta5aUrTiNlMlAzePeh6PoX_K0JrURknTfjuh4D0Qh9-1zgw=s900" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="900" data-original-width="604" height="640" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEhzMEw9dCjgZjZIUySBKkp22bzZ9j9vOzDrahzrgHqvT1AIfcAQFaXo7-NWxTHJXk4jFMKgXWTSJBlRAWDB3qBDpysjZJefUIZEGxX1HPl1fQ801HnkbCdeARYi8sltigmlmogrYltuFf-Ta5aUrTiNlMlAzePeh6PoX_K0JrURknTfjuh4D0Qh9-1zgw=w430-h640" width="430" /></a></div><p>Note that these are not presented as <i>paintings</i> but as tinted <i>photographs</i>. That's significant, because I just learned recently that the Victorians <i>loved</i> to make comic photos of themselves in a state of decapitation. 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Practically a <i>craze</i>. And note that they didn't mind adding a little grue to the photo-trickery. </div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"> </div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><span style="color: #ea9999;"><span style="font-size: x-large;">I call this last one, "George's Revenge."</span></span><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div><p></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEiuB7j6iVHHCPKi7XImXIO1ylGGrME8AzWM0wnzDJtJbVy6lZN8njZzTpANmdQkhm6pJGpK92Mi2L7vn4mi4X6sHnRNASSwpvcQkJafsceX64OQYMHcHgYLGmZlRrnU_RQQcZrmGy3bufJxngtVJSUfVHozD9R8pjcTyzCSJ-mcLdEA7lZcE01AoDQOnQ=s833" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="833" data-original-width="640" height="640" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEiuB7j6iVHHCPKi7XImXIO1ylGGrME8AzWM0wnzDJtJbVy6lZN8njZzTpANmdQkhm6pJGpK92Mi2L7vn4mi4X6sHnRNASSwpvcQkJafsceX64OQYMHcHgYLGmZlRrnU_RQQcZrmGy3bufJxngtVJSUfVHozD9R8pjcTyzCSJ-mcLdEA7lZcE01AoDQOnQ=w492-h640" width="492" /></a></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"></div><br /><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEiwUhu-B_8XUrmMPY9smwv6lWtnoGVqmqhRlGL65oEV9pq6ye9nmW-pUhS4ex9eSQvcQLzXq9Q_Cg838p4MJadMqa4PeJFbOjbT065nWXi6fgeJ7qvz4VmwB5fOZ9UsP2Jg5mKLininWlOhnbP1SPk3K1LKqg9-Jup7K29F44KH_OwB8ZGok1H-5V2bNA=s714" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="714" data-original-width="541" height="640" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEiwUhu-B_8XUrmMPY9smwv6lWtnoGVqmqhRlGL65oEV9pq6ye9nmW-pUhS4ex9eSQvcQLzXq9Q_Cg838p4MJadMqa4PeJFbOjbT065nWXi6fgeJ7qvz4VmwB5fOZ9UsP2Jg5mKLininWlOhnbP1SPk3K1LKqg9-Jup7K29F44KH_OwB8ZGok1H-5V2bNA=w484-h640" width="484" /></a></div><p></p><p style="text-align: center;"><span style="font-size: medium;">Serves her right.</span></p><p>I have to admit that discovering this Victorian fad gives me some grudging new respect for the attic portraits. In my book they've always been one of the only good things about the 2006 attic renovation anyway, and now they seem more authentic than ever. (Connie can still disappear anytime, and I'll shed no tears for her departure, but you already knew that.)</p><p> </p><p><span style="font-size: large;"><span style="color: #93c47d;">Something Borrowed (A Postscript)</span></span><br /></p><p>The previous post about Maleficent's torture chamber in the Sleeping Beauty walk-thru did ignore one item in the scene that maybe should have been included. Hanging over on the far right is this thing that looks like a giant "morning star" mace, hanging from a long swag chain:</p><p> </p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEhIR_JiHLj-uQqhIRuwv8OrpzJMy-qS1_W2N2Euwds_tt_sGCB2rBEDOecvWhZOYAtzWacN9fAXPs156vvOxSRKext-45gZfCUQmI80Pl_fk-vfYhM6eOpdXZSycEa-hnSpuES2sH4N-5LxHY8BLSfFjc_jetHWelh9Wzd3kzrzSfI8tyeQVI_JCaE17Q=s851" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="806" data-original-width="851" height="606" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEhIR_JiHLj-uQqhIRuwv8OrpzJMy-qS1_W2N2Euwds_tt_sGCB2rBEDOecvWhZOYAtzWacN9fAXPs156vvOxSRKext-45gZfCUQmI80Pl_fk-vfYhM6eOpdXZSycEa-hnSpuES2sH4N-5LxHY8BLSfFjc_jetHWelh9Wzd3kzrzSfI8tyeQVI_JCaE17Q=w640-h606" width="640" /></a></div><p></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEjreWqGfeUUuVoZhDfPkkFOfHHH098mJFEbIEoOSXo-SwrScgQaw4fmuq2V-x6fnUC8Dh5h-YTIFxtpfvLeesyDQDxJKOjOFk7bgX68CFxfq-8cAJZ77H9kspi86ZDEwjrraeDriWe0s7VaVXmAl3zn1IN-Vjjs0D4DP6whBLkxmwlQpu8eV90T89mLkQ=s900" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="900" data-original-width="443" height="640" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEjreWqGfeUUuVoZhDfPkkFOfHHH098mJFEbIEoOSXo-SwrScgQaw4fmuq2V-x6fnUC8Dh5h-YTIFxtpfvLeesyDQDxJKOjOFk7bgX68CFxfq-8cAJZ77H9kspi86ZDEwjrraeDriWe0s7VaVXmAl3zn1IN-Vjjs0D4DP6whBLkxmwlQpu8eV90T89mLkQ=w316-h640" width="316" /></a></div><p style="text-align: center;">Here's Chris Merritt's digital recreation of what the original 1957 specimen looked like:</p><p></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEjaSeUHrxU4E20NIf6r9DT5INVXZrMJkgyexp80JUOaZzWl2PjaPx6yfHNxBdMW7tPp9AyAy2pDcfW0Z0ZweZTNkzulzSEbQLruT_nWzVx6PGFRNbUOAE085T6L4wmDPm_A8tZGGRZITZyBPRzJL1N8s0mhgVfCZA5KD3St2EYYDGNydA_O3pdCo_WYig=s961" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="961" data-original-width="416" height="640" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEjaSeUHrxU4E20NIf6r9DT5INVXZrMJkgyexp80JUOaZzWl2PjaPx6yfHNxBdMW7tPp9AyAy2pDcfW0Z0ZweZTNkzulzSEbQLruT_nWzVx6PGFRNbUOAE085T6L4wmDPm_A8tZGGRZITZyBPRzJL1N8s0mhgVfCZA5KD3St2EYYDGNydA_O3pdCo_WYig=w278-h640" width="278" /></a></div><p></p><p>I am not at liberty to show you the original prop as it appears on Ken Anderson's blueprints, but I can tell you it looks a lot like this:</p><div style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEh9gNHu3iP8Jkuxhk2bo24H10twn2YFxGUrkfC54QnOdtHO26ARNl6dJE3vKo09HZyb6dGsN8cQF-cr-da8NripO6BqxfVuS_zxKPnKbPo61q9JmBZ_VMf2njEfkKO_FVigUwd-DFXTkJdjEpgB9HeHSC_tfTjhTJGhqHIrhMUI8ITKeQiT9Fqcelk_4g=s785" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="785" data-original-width="286" height="400" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEh9gNHu3iP8Jkuxhk2bo24H10twn2YFxGUrkfC54QnOdtHO26ARNl6dJE3vKo09HZyb6dGsN8cQF-cr-da8NripO6BqxfVuS_zxKPnKbPo61q9JmBZ_VMf2njEfkKO_FVigUwd-DFXTkJdjEpgB9HeHSC_tfTjhTJGhqHIrhMUI8ITKeQiT9Fqcelk_4g=w146-h400" width="146" /></a></div><p>It's obviously modeled on that well-known piece of medieval weaponry, the "morning star" flail mace, except that it's ludicrously large, in keeping with the surreal-unreal ambiguity of Mal's torture chamber:</p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEhDpDIlb4PvkJFZxhiqsDDqZm2kjwwhhULZqAa9fViPavywDjMfwvim_lc1TwA_vAyB4Zky-rXaQf6wb-VZOZ3RnIlqf1wVqpih8n5TY4EbTpHyrqtw9DmVwTwvCJWhG6N47OYyaEiak-VvzkOTaVtS8Cc05tdVoGWMBhfjRUW5CEJws9-WnOeZXtaPtg=s750" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="369" data-original-width="750" height="314" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEhDpDIlb4PvkJFZxhiqsDDqZm2kjwwhhULZqAa9fViPavywDjMfwvim_lc1TwA_vAyB4Zky-rXaQf6wb-VZOZ3RnIlqf1wVqpih8n5TY4EbTpHyrqtw9DmVwTwvCJWhG6N47OYyaEiak-VvzkOTaVtS8Cc05tdVoGWMBhfjRUW5CEJws9-WnOeZXtaPtg=w640-h314" width="640" /></a></div><p></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEijV6o4Njkt-LeseUEUc8EeBzwCySRrI7e_NJou2RJO0C3T1iv2ReljphbQZfoVmRrYMpQhPMoeI8b-fQnX174I5liY4mir9rN8N-v8W8pOzpMwQp9WGE-LCMFecToPxyGWHGatBVJDSkLePfeN0QhfNC-e_vtdtRUJodI-lMke_QrMyh5vwGBUC2nrbw=s474" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="462" data-original-width="474" height="624" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEijV6o4Njkt-LeseUEUc8EeBzwCySRrI7e_NJou2RJO0C3T1iv2ReljphbQZfoVmRrYMpQhPMoeI8b-fQnX174I5liY4mir9rN8N-v8W8pOzpMwQp9WGE-LCMFecToPxyGWHGatBVJDSkLePfeN0QhfNC-e_vtdtRUJodI-lMke_QrMyh5vwGBUC2nrbw=w640-h624" width="640" /></a></div>The question before the bar (and where <i>did</i> that bartender go? My glass is empty). Anyway, the question is: was this item borrowed from Piranesi's <i>Imaginery Prisons</i>, like several other items in the tableau certainly were?<br /><p></p><p>Not directly, no. But I can't help noticing that Piranesi's prisons are simply <i>chock-full </i>of huge, suspended light fixtures that certainly look very unfriendly, and that some rather nasty, spiky things are frequently found lurking in the vicinity. 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We have learned that the happiest place on earth has been home to an <a href="https://longforgottenhauntedmansion.blogspot.com/2017/09/buried-on-tom-sawyer-island-excursus.html" target="_blank">awful lot</a> of <a href="https://longforgottenhauntedmansion.blogspot.com/2018/01/tombstones-and-milestones.html" target="_blank">graveyards</a>, but a medieval torture chamber? Try this one on your favorite Disneyland trivia lover and see if they're stumped: <span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="color: #fff2cc;"><i> </i></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="color: #fff2cc;"><i>Is there currently a torture chamber anywhere at Disneyland? Not torture </i>scenes<i>, mind you, but an honest-to-gosh medieval torture chamber?"</i></span></span> </p><p>(You need to stipulate like that, because torture <b><i>scenes</i></b> there are aplenty. They would include dunking the mayor in POTC, forcing Wendy to walk the plank in Peter Pan, and the queue for Spider Man on a hot day.)</p><p>Some of the scenes in the older versions of Snow White's Adventures would have qualified, but those have mostly been scrubbed. If we're restricting ourselves to gloomy dungeons with implements of torture sitting around, then there <i>is</i> one and there is <i>only</i> one. It's in the Sleeping Beauty Diorama (aka the SB walk-thru).</p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEiPiT5TWXrLGTnulqznlm_2gGdk9dOAL-EEZkymnhax5bi9vVlJcjTK7GGXjer8L21qeVrdanMoB5LTpd-HAedF4lRnre0xn51-h4uWmhooISHFHgKA4flSnptyKJKSzb-oyZ6npm7f2t-0GO4NSR6hh5OZbCeSUMDu42siJ3vSk3QqhbwGc4E54_Kstg=s900" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="900" data-original-width="599" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEiPiT5TWXrLGTnulqznlm_2gGdk9dOAL-EEZkymnhax5bi9vVlJcjTK7GGXjer8L21qeVrdanMoB5LTpd-HAedF4lRnre0xn51-h4uWmhooISHFHgKA4flSnptyKJKSzb-oyZ6npm7f2t-0GO4NSR6hh5OZbCeSUMDu42siJ3vSk3QqhbwGc4E54_Kstg=s16000" /></a><span style="color: #6fa8dc;"><span style="font-size: x-small;"> </span></span></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><span style="color: #6fa8dc;"><span style="font-size: x-small;"> <br /></span></span></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><span style="color: #6fa8dc;"><span style="font-size: x-small;"><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEgou_lMi9teiA7E2xCJ3lEfopNxzq-qsnsgz5-Nm4auualo4jYT6iqfpj8Vpmyi8VNeQdQlmvfjbEki4PcrA_MwYfRtV6C7dx7ABTUoirLscLm-aMNjvzO0C4KjKURc3oMxA3x7mN1NG_cDa4Bn5MD9CWDpzfOwqb4AgfBpwuN8ew1868c9UVWgdIPXRQ=s675" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="655" data-original-width="675" height="622" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEgou_lMi9teiA7E2xCJ3lEfopNxzq-qsnsgz5-Nm4auualo4jYT6iqfpj8Vpmyi8VNeQdQlmvfjbEki4PcrA_MwYfRtV6C7dx7ABTUoirLscLm-aMNjvzO0C4KjKURc3oMxA3x7mN1NG_cDa4Bn5MD9CWDpzfOwqb4AgfBpwuN8ew1868c9UVWgdIPXRQ=w640-h622" width="640" /></a></div><br /></span></span></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><span style="color: #6fa8dc;"><span style="font-size: x-small;">pic by Roger Weeks </span></span><br /></div><p></p><p>I ran some of what follows past good buddy Chris Merritt, one of the masterminds behind the 2008 version of the walk-thru, and he was so tickled by it that I was encouraged to go ahead and do a post. I'm going to label it an <b>excursus</b>, <a href="https://longforgottenhauntedmansion.blogspot.com/2017/09/buried-on-tom-sawyer-island-excursus.html" target="_blank">like I did</a> with the Tom Sawyer Island graveyards, even though a slender case could be made that the ultimate source of inspiration for the scene above also left a mark on the Haunted Mansion. The connections are so pathetically weak, however, that I'm not going to pretend this is a legitimate Mansion post. It's an excursus into the roots of one scene in the Sleeping Beauty Diorama. I don't expect much blowback anyway, because Mansion fans tend to be fans of the Sleeping Beauty film and the walk-thru attraction as well.</p><p>There are plenty of good reasons for this crossover fandom, by the way. There's the Eleanor Audley vocal connection between Mdm Leota and Maleficent. There's also what we might call a common DNA to both attractions due to their mutual emergence from the imagination of <a href="https://longforgottenhauntedmansion.blogspot.com/2010/10/father-of-haunted-mansion-part-one.html" target="_blank">Ken Anderson</a>, who was in fact working on the earliest concepts for the HM and on the original SB walk-thru at the same time.</p><p></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEhuCRV3Gnv4N7KOJCb-zfcR_v2tSYK5NcJfjSFqEstJaITKZHEw20JX1XkxiHboqHzj9xasqbWU6qCc_YmYaQnPbK0Uj9fLYcnOlIqdPYZ1atlrQLmH9G-DsTyZf9rd9ev7xfZHcHrSjYis7vVknPUOZQv0aq2hruxHPulPCHEyzQdCo6mJLjYg_00TUQ=s823" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="823" data-original-width="537" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEhuCRV3Gnv4N7KOJCb-zfcR_v2tSYK5NcJfjSFqEstJaITKZHEw20JX1XkxiHboqHzj9xasqbWU6qCc_YmYaQnPbK0Uj9fLYcnOlIqdPYZ1atlrQLmH9G-DsTyZf9rd9ev7xfZHcHrSjYis7vVknPUOZQv0aq2hruxHPulPCHEyzQdCo6mJLjYg_00TUQ=s16000" /></a></div> <p></p><p>There is also the fact that the humble, A-ticket, Sleeping Beauty walk-thru was by far the most special-effects-laden attraction at Disneyland prior to the advent of audio-animatronics, and most of those same effects were heavily re-used in the HM (e.g. Pepper's Ghost, mirror trickery, lighting and shadow effects of all sorts, and ingenious use of forced perspective). This comes as no surprise, since special effects wizard Yale Gracey was responsible for much of the magic on display in the walk-thru, although he has never been properly credited for it.</p><p> </p><p><span style="color: #93c47d;"><span style="font-size: large;">Imaginary Prisons</span></span></p><p>For the "ultimate inspiration" promised above, we go back two and a half centuries. Meet Giovanni Battista Piranesi, a Venetian artist of repute:</p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEj-__Vjs9sP-51rzOLrrSp0p7JGBPbonyiDcl4LY7gRrUlZ2DfUVXpYAbs3otYaOE5vg3EH9J2V5fiOQkfG2LC4BZh3UH9Wph-pYvNk5B5pxTcY-XaYFnFNn7tTzgN_Ln-lit0HFDPim7kfEKs4c1HR6Koc4PWYPDsxiNFO1GL_XOl9HBJKObQCbMslbA=s968" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="968" data-original-width="724" height="640" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEj-__Vjs9sP-51rzOLrrSp0p7JGBPbonyiDcl4LY7gRrUlZ2DfUVXpYAbs3otYaOE5vg3EH9J2V5fiOQkfG2LC4BZh3UH9Wph-pYvNk5B5pxTcY-XaYFnFNn7tTzgN_Ln-lit0HFDPim7kfEKs4c1HR6Koc4PWYPDsxiNFO1GL_XOl9HBJKObQCbMslbA=w479-h640" width="479" /></a></div><p></p><p>He did thousands of etchings. These could be mass produced and sold in portfolios at affordable prices. He was best known for his renderings of ancient Roman ruins and landmarks, done in realistic fashion but also with a heavy dose of romance and fantasy. The etchings were the 18th century equivalent of coffee table books, aimed at a middle/upper class clientele who would love to travel to see all these famous historical places but would probably never be able to do so. Some of his etchings became pretty well-known, like his rendition of the Pantheon:</p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEhAKG516uHigWIEZu3NU3hNRb7k9mEtLB8tO6CYbXbOWKxih1Ed86ICk1XDFYu5ZgT5ExR8F4AKJ4GsflPMWyYFikfT5fZcyqTwHn10HkFZgaJgPP6NFBsPVsKyDMNrH2aDDn2GeZsCoR9QY6P6acv5nyfA-TYBooGgi_0vVULBDXHyZCmnsqMmSvGlTA=s724" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="501" data-original-width="724" height="442" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEhAKG516uHigWIEZu3NU3hNRb7k9mEtLB8tO6CYbXbOWKxih1Ed86ICk1XDFYu5ZgT5ExR8F4AKJ4GsflPMWyYFikfT5fZcyqTwHn10HkFZgaJgPP6NFBsPVsKyDMNrH2aDDn2GeZsCoR9QY6P6acv5nyfA-TYBooGgi_0vVULBDXHyZCmnsqMmSvGlTA=w640-h442" width="640" /></a></div><br /><p>Anyway, according to one account, some time in the 1740's Piranesi fell ill, and upon recovery he began a series of etchings based on visions he "saw" while in a feverish delirium. Unlike anything else he had done, these were entirely imaginary. The series was called "Le Carceri d'invenzione" (<i>Imaginary Prisons</i>) and was published in two editions. We are concerned here with the second, 1761 edition.</p><p>The <i>Imaginary Prisons</i> set is widely admired and recognized as an important influence on later artists in the Romantic and Surrealistic schools. They are indeed<span style="text-align: center;"> pretty amazing. I think there is good reason to think that Ken Anderson laid them under contribution when he designed Maleficent's dungeon for the SB walk-thru.</span></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEjILfu6nBmSm6t5YzqwfXxfWtHpYCmNwoif24tBszyP2cNKWCjUijNe94frcnygO6rysTOJeMDPk1aeD7MpBcWFjQs4EqplHTFt3BnpEtYww7ZcruKju_XHDgsVrYxOru5O0600g_QKUulDwxvPdKSGsPXJ2zVMsjnpeefMbfRGggAPVb6FkvP1K5Q1ig=s2000" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="2000" data-original-width="1551" height="640" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEjILfu6nBmSm6t5YzqwfXxfWtHpYCmNwoif24tBszyP2cNKWCjUijNe94frcnygO6rysTOJeMDPk1aeD7MpBcWFjQs4EqplHTFt3BnpEtYww7ZcruKju_XHDgsVrYxOru5O0600g_QKUulDwxvPdKSGsPXJ2zVMsjnpeefMbfRGggAPVb6FkvP1K5Q1ig=w496-h640" width="496" /> </a></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"> </div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEiHXK5vAbAxsCZ_3zTQBPeaLV1RJWGpsqXK3wdsXH0QksGJSZZZxgDAaFqXYX-NlmDRjXjt3j8bzJ1n_ynAZMAdajANSIjZU80PJTx32Iu0hw_NexvRn9_ebj_D3uAehLwOHkfE6R7EX0A4qlMSVFZ2wuA0dqM_ZeJzPf07p8h6cJboVbWfuIqvhCF3GQ=s2000" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="2000" data-original-width="1575" height="640" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEiHXK5vAbAxsCZ_3zTQBPeaLV1RJWGpsqXK3wdsXH0QksGJSZZZxgDAaFqXYX-NlmDRjXjt3j8bzJ1n_ynAZMAdajANSIjZU80PJTx32Iu0hw_NexvRn9_ebj_D3uAehLwOHkfE6R7EX0A4qlMSVFZ2wuA0dqM_ZeJzPf07p8h6cJboVbWfuIqvhCF3GQ=w504-h640" width="504" /></a></div> <div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEik1DMQeuZ9iUY3O6eCSPO-RvSravK3Q30TOvVMWDgvNQRfro-wgbwu4g5hEXAyakd2TOcl_dUHiDQWJVy5wVghtqug20Ir2UurVo1TGV20AS93TCL4bRFLbsAL_l4OMODy6aLevj-DcUOESwUg1JXoo2A3J6UJfbKDAjMvYACrqN4zc2YHrImtQ6J4XA=s2000" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="2000" data-original-width="1539" height="640" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEik1DMQeuZ9iUY3O6eCSPO-RvSravK3Q30TOvVMWDgvNQRfro-wgbwu4g5hEXAyakd2TOcl_dUHiDQWJVy5wVghtqug20Ir2UurVo1TGV20AS93TCL4bRFLbsAL_l4OMODy6aLevj-DcUOESwUg1JXoo2A3J6UJfbKDAjMvYACrqN4zc2YHrImtQ6J4XA=w492-h640" width="492" /></a></div><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEiV_Yth3aXMzI6v6dTtIYMdrJW5JHF5dbW5LP8XPPiYlHGqi794kNDW5bF_LFR6HVvfYgHVkSeMDY2mqfOML2eZ_eVl2U2C2SGiH4UaV6b0ZCW2m2Xp_vaGW3VGIXCEFlwgwr0whVtks0Mlj_QnpWd7MJF8rpjf-g-M0ZwO-VtdMcnICL4HW-E4GiDK5w=s2000" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="1536" data-original-width="2000" height="492" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEiV_Yth3aXMzI6v6dTtIYMdrJW5JHF5dbW5LP8XPPiYlHGqi794kNDW5bF_LFR6HVvfYgHVkSeMDY2mqfOML2eZ_eVl2U2C2SGiH4UaV6b0ZCW2m2Xp_vaGW3VGIXCEFlwgwr0whVtks0Mlj_QnpWd7MJF8rpjf-g-M0ZwO-VtdMcnICL4HW-E4GiDK5w=w640-h492" width="640" /></a></div><br /><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEjAktfpn49ACkLLasYTVYywIPURjtniaAb8WvFt-rolFaIFCLgHS8asMmzcQGZbGosjOZh5fjTqs6LYOHKjElh4dQyrGwBaXiRdKSUWxDMB2gohCKHpUeo3F4nMQN2WvAnzEciRLNfrb69QfotqpL433x8pW84vb3ub_JpQ6PoeE-S26AdbcyIxpRRa0A=s2000" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="1539" data-original-width="2000" height="492" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEjAktfpn49ACkLLasYTVYywIPURjtniaAb8WvFt-rolFaIFCLgHS8asMmzcQGZbGosjOZh5fjTqs6LYOHKjElh4dQyrGwBaXiRdKSUWxDMB2gohCKHpUeo3F4nMQN2WvAnzEciRLNfrb69QfotqpL433x8pW84vb3ub_JpQ6PoeE-S26AdbcyIxpRRa0A=w640-h492" width="640" /></a></div><p style="text-align: center;">You can see the entire set of 16 prints <a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/29883059@N05/albums/72177720295777184" target="_blank">HERE</a>. They're all good.</p><p style="text-align: center;"><br /></p><p><span style="color: #93c47d; font-size: x-large;">Torture Devices! (or...something)</span></p><p>The <i>Sleeping Beauty</i> movie did not come out until 1959, but the walk-thru attraction opened in 1957, while the film was still in development. That's why the original diorama contained scenes that never appeared in the movie. Eyvind Earle did a concept painting of Maleficent summoning her demons for a celebration. This is <i>not</i> a concept for the movie but for the walk-thru:<br /></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEh4t_7wwaKztttfEntNXUhLb1j6RVAXSfVXq1w_7Ov3DHASyU_Wdfqwn9qlhh2seoa5XUxdn0ZO4gaq1PWPtbEhGX_oobFdlatSPLZosbTd4N1l4ol0k59CcbI7pisDl1KPKDdKouu6t9-Ym2jKJI4sRx7RQlrEtcxYFku0xcUNhZcxK_OdqrhgG9enaQ=s674" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="506" data-original-width="674" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEh4t_7wwaKztttfEntNXUhLb1j6RVAXSfVXq1w_7Ov3DHASyU_Wdfqwn9qlhh2seoa5XUxdn0ZO4gaq1PWPtbEhGX_oobFdlatSPLZosbTd4N1l4ol0k59CcbI7pisDl1KPKDdKouu6t9-Ym2jKJI4sRx7RQlrEtcxYFku0xcUNhZcxK_OdqrhgG9enaQ=s16000" /></a></div><p>I don't see much here that looks like it could have been inspired by Piranesi, unless the coffins (or are they iron maidens?) in the corner were inspired by these, which are equally ambiguous as to what they are.<br /></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEiXrVMvl7PyHqxQ-fSqDvpX4vWitXPGgW4AZEg7VUa4LvvR3VL6uQHfSJvC0o7T513cViK_hbL0w2fqnW5dXznryxE2v20Kz8YAM1zKmCki4hrW44QlE-WeBqyk9ICbJ3K2FDX-Qh_K9ntxu6taWS24xeQFAtKpAWhtxBr0nGnuJzHoI_7w1_-3YUidfw=s441" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="439" data-original-width="441" height="399" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEiXrVMvl7PyHqxQ-fSqDvpX4vWitXPGgW4AZEg7VUa4LvvR3VL6uQHfSJvC0o7T513cViK_hbL0w2fqnW5dXznryxE2v20Kz8YAM1zKmCki4hrW44QlE-WeBqyk9ICbJ3K2FDX-Qh_K9ntxu6taWS24xeQFAtKpAWhtxBr0nGnuJzHoI_7w1_-3YUidfw=w400-h399" width="400" /></a></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;">If we want to hunt down possible influences on the Earle painting, I think there are better candidates <a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/29883059@N05/51813244019/in/album-72177720295868615/" target="_blank">elsewhere</a>:</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEipZ94SO9M8cWHTpjmPMQjxjmXvKGjiJJ1Yn2FrtTzpmzKbHO9Ln-4Gv6fkTEYx6ZL3Hp6AZVngFY96fAG2-yDO0VW3QK2mLfeuQGd0BLkdyzQyyOUtk_mWIsqTta6koW3ODzXf-hb0V-NaAzzwCdD1GEJbb1RwrxsUDLSJLcePay7krM7ZRSrx6bP9fA=s849" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="849" data-original-width="763" height="640" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEipZ94SO9M8cWHTpjmPMQjxjmXvKGjiJJ1Yn2FrtTzpmzKbHO9Ln-4Gv6fkTEYx6ZL3Hp6AZVngFY96fAG2-yDO0VW3QK2mLfeuQGd0BLkdyzQyyOUtk_mWIsqTta6koW3ODzXf-hb0V-NaAzzwCdD1GEJbb1RwrxsUDLSJLcePay7krM7ZRSrx6bP9fA=w576-h640" width="576" /></a></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div><p><span style="color: #93c47d;"><span style="font-size: large;">The Ken Connection</span></span></p><p>But never mind Earle. It was Ken Anderson who designed the actual scene in the walk-thru, including all the torture implements. The original was revamped entirely in 1977 (the wretched "Barbie doll" version), and that one closed in 2001. But the current incarnation, which opened in 2008, tries to adhere as closely as possible to the look of the Earle-Anderson version. We actually have a pretty good idea of what Maleficent's dungeon looked like in 1957 (here recreated by Chris Merritt):<br /></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEgoT_u8PLIb32l3ZWla7hPeifTSz4It-xT2yCdXCxawTRbSaO4sBRXgeJr6_IVS3KIZm9SOtRFjMrHcLmcBXWwiCYyQFIFsR-dj0oCipEjlTxNXPXlcgtk3yYY8Awmt45xD9bIKbgAZ8qjmIiKFoLPL3EGYADcaUKd9eUzRKGD5TKF4bivpwFJ9j1-wGQ=s991" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="759" data-original-width="991" height="490" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEgoT_u8PLIb32l3ZWla7hPeifTSz4It-xT2yCdXCxawTRbSaO4sBRXgeJr6_IVS3KIZm9SOtRFjMrHcLmcBXWwiCYyQFIFsR-dj0oCipEjlTxNXPXlcgtk3yYY8Awmt45xD9bIKbgAZ8qjmIiKFoLPL3EGYADcaUKd9eUzRKGD5TKF4bivpwFJ9j1-wGQ=w640-h490" width="640" /></a></div><p>Amazingly enough, even though interior photos of the original SB walk-thru are EXTREMELY RARE, a photo of precisely this scene came to light just last year, posted by Mark McGuire at the Vintage Disneyland site on FB. It took a little knob-twiddling to improve the readability of the photo, but there's been no fiddling with the contents, I assure you. The pieces seem to have been moved around.<br /></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEgoPvrctU89OZ2rUscJPcsRzD-C853L2adH1XXA7z9-mjpKUOZl4Zu_IVNLJAbamNSBYe6WB-rYJIU-fuUQFlh1ECnmCdtgAoWcjKCzRhXTjobUIswUuajDPosRQDxhLV7mCsz3zyr32n1KKJ_ptqZYdToGjAjx2NO0H-BLlXulywr1jeV0SUxXIBCy8A=s960" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="814" data-original-width="960" height="543" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEgoPvrctU89OZ2rUscJPcsRzD-C853L2adH1XXA7z9-mjpKUOZl4Zu_IVNLJAbamNSBYe6WB-rYJIU-fuUQFlh1ECnmCdtgAoWcjKCzRhXTjobUIswUuajDPosRQDxhLV7mCsz3zyr32n1KKJ_ptqZYdToGjAjx2NO0H-BLlXulywr1jeV0SUxXIBCy8A=w640-h543" width="640" /></a></div><p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #9fc5e8;"><span style="font-size: x-small;">pic by Mark McGuire</span></span></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEjZ1iSN61I0R8fEYhEX_Fm-mKI8lcgAAm0nqLK0WcUF9MK9GJIG6IsG4ho2nOJ0ysqpjDq8aCj0irgq_FRbWR6b7cAMONMNvWG6DU4X1tGg6AXI9I79V34BC7u_oe3ZRWvJ8NKQu7WwNIPSmJfyPZvbs-YzdyVSbO2Uq36_3yLub8A7lVjm_SiTl8rNKQ=s1115" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="601" data-original-width="1115" height="344" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEjZ1iSN61I0R8fEYhEX_Fm-mKI8lcgAAm0nqLK0WcUF9MK9GJIG6IsG4ho2nOJ0ysqpjDq8aCj0irgq_FRbWR6b7cAMONMNvWG6DU4X1tGg6AXI9I79V34BC7u_oe3ZRWvJ8NKQu7WwNIPSmJfyPZvbs-YzdyVSbO2Uq36_3yLub8A7lVjm_SiTl8rNKQ=w640-h344" width="640" /></a></div><p></p><p style="text-align: center;">Besides all this, I've seen Anderson's blueprints for the dungeon furnishings (but I can't show you them).<br /></p><p>Not all of Maleficent's toys were inspired by Piranesi. The guy spread-eagled on some sort of frame obviously comes from Earle's painting, and the guy strapped to the wheel just as obviously comes from this cheerful little number rather than the wheel in Earle's artwork.</p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEgWpx3bFN0sPtS1ndIztSTdiWDvvJsI0rmvzuq2wjuLRUICnnrX1JoakdO9Erdwv1ne2u1iY2tzE7t6fKp2LCQzVDbBKul_7r2JGCzYwYKpzoo8yBLMKW0AQTMNX_d83fGuP1tkx5RVyD9SBUOO0PW-tH1SlEpEzfLcvEMhuk4JARTUmmkJy39TxErHDQ=s427" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="384" data-original-width="427" height="360" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEgWpx3bFN0sPtS1ndIztSTdiWDvvJsI0rmvzuq2wjuLRUICnnrX1JoakdO9Erdwv1ne2u1iY2tzE7t6fKp2LCQzVDbBKul_7r2JGCzYwYKpzoo8yBLMKW0AQTMNX_d83fGuP1tkx5RVyD9SBUOO0PW-tH1SlEpEzfLcvEMhuk4JARTUmmkJy39TxErHDQ=w400-h360" width="400" /></a> <br /></div><p style="text-align: center;">But the weird "star wheel" and the spiked sawhorse with descending arrow points in the middle certainly came from the <i>Imaginary Prisons</i>.<br /></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEhKZEdUVRNpaHUMOo5y7FBPXSdAZiMdlwWqHT1aPd-CAOSFgPH7VlKstHOAUH4ZDjC_Gv3f2gbTZEmjEPRlWegFVpTs-3-O4PhhHcCHA3tzdnmgTOcw6OshwWnchOzCdf9_zCIHlos_oEIjonJbqegzSdarGOnExkEefYZ-a9tkb9B1bkqe0A68imUCKA=s957" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="957" data-original-width="745" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEhKZEdUVRNpaHUMOo5y7FBPXSdAZiMdlwWqHT1aPd-CAOSFgPH7VlKstHOAUH4ZDjC_Gv3f2gbTZEmjEPRlWegFVpTs-3-O4PhhHcCHA3tzdnmgTOcw6OshwWnchOzCdf9_zCIHlos_oEIjonJbqegzSdarGOnExkEefYZ-a9tkb9B1bkqe0A68imUCKA=s16000" /></a></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"> </div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;">The catwalks too, I think. Ken needed something to disguise the top edge of the glass pane slanting across the stage, and now that it seems certain he took ideas from Piranesi, we're probably safe in concluding that he took the design of the catwalks from there as well.<br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"> </div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEjKZoWbkOxusuThRmmII74Ns6M6z0bmf_FVLXaWkTDQD0Z2EHEi0PVzXy_73AYXS2eWotKj4Hv04JndDeM6Aln2aEiTD6aQnknB5ep1Gt3LFhHWEN2d3DZH_jz4PeVpKsecAo4xwzDNWCHlZvBDGLngOvGZKp_IYedyAIigckfqpccN1NxMqykUpFaRJw=s959" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="959" data-original-width="674" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEjKZoWbkOxusuThRmmII74Ns6M6z0bmf_FVLXaWkTDQD0Z2EHEi0PVzXy_73AYXS2eWotKj4Hv04JndDeM6Aln2aEiTD6aQnknB5ep1Gt3LFhHWEN2d3DZH_jz4PeVpKsecAo4xwzDNWCHlZvBDGLngOvGZKp_IYedyAIigckfqpccN1NxMqykUpFaRJw=s16000" /></a> <br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEgCMFI7J_m_QUVaqPqCSkVjG7bYSdUTWW4hBhrw63F9A4_2r3Q7PG-jQmsd1k7wntSwZlZCGMJ4x5DdZXcanTECjzvelODkbs4p4PTvGA0AIxoU9OeDlrNyBwV-6Do8vddkmR-uuOxrqvf-XkuLi2gcBYajSqmvt0Osm49oHjxlcbgaAAvq6jYwyhYYjA=s752" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="555" data-original-width="752" height="472" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEgCMFI7J_m_QUVaqPqCSkVjG7bYSdUTWW4hBhrw63F9A4_2r3Q7PG-jQmsd1k7wntSwZlZCGMJ4x5DdZXcanTECjzvelODkbs4p4PTvGA0AIxoU9OeDlrNyBwV-6Do8vddkmR-uuOxrqvf-XkuLi2gcBYajSqmvt0Osm49oHjxlcbgaAAvq6jYwyhYYjA=w640-h472" width="640" /></a></div><p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #9fc5e8;"><span style="font-size: x-small;">Digital recreation by Chris Merritt</span></span></p><p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #ffd966; font-size: medium;">See now the <a href="https://longforgottenhauntedmansion.blogspot.com/2022/03/something-old-something-new-something.html" target="_blank">following post</a> for an additional item that may be from Piranesi.</span></p><p><br /><span style="color: #93c47d; font-size: large;">The Big "So What" Moment</span></p><p>To me, the most interesting thing in all of this is that the <i>actual function</i> of the borrowed devices is unclear. In fact, even though Piranesi's prisons are full of what are obviously implements of torture, it's not at all clear what they are or how they would have been used. They are wholly imaginary, perhaps the product of Piranesi's delirium, and it's apparently enough that they <i>look</i> like scary torture devices, even if they are ultimately indecipherable.<br /></p><p>I wonder if <u>that very fact</u> may have been the thing that attracted Anderson to them. This is a Disneyland attraction, after all, and this is a scene in a fairy tale. How many historically accurate torture devices do we really want to put in this tableau? Wouldn't it be better to put in something more <i>suggestive</i> of a torture chamber than a literal reproduction? It's enough that that wheel and that rack (if that's what it is) are included. Maybe Anderson welcomed the opportunity to introduce items that were deliberately much vaguer, things less factual and more fantastical.<br /></p><p>Merritt was particularly pleased by the Piranesi discovery, since neither he nor Tony Baxter had any idea what these crazy things were, and they decided to simply follow Anderson's blueprints as slavishly as possible, all the while wondering what the hell they were making.</p><p>Almost none of this survived into the movie, although if you're paying attention, you'll notice a chopping block in Prince Phillip's cell. It made a good perch for Diablo, but that seems to be all that's left of Maleficent's torture chamber.</p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEgB3uC3Z_GfEUZbyewHxiOVJxyokXY3zb_YN3LoMIkHOd-86VoUHRAVzSY4NPsYI-moKApvdJ42AJifQWpTuFiHbSQeF2CCJU4FgFDGRVGZhtIqw2M74Bxf29ZKFJc5g_AuWeNG4NNDiBTcOzNq85reB15cwhyLiOdMLIaaAfMxA-lN5ICcTW0U08CvkQ=s692" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="692" data-original-width="626" height="640" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEgB3uC3Z_GfEUZbyewHxiOVJxyokXY3zb_YN3LoMIkHOd-86VoUHRAVzSY4NPsYI-moKApvdJ42AJifQWpTuFiHbSQeF2CCJU4FgFDGRVGZhtIqw2M74Bxf29ZKFJc5g_AuWeNG4NNDiBTcOzNq85reB15cwhyLiOdMLIaaAfMxA-lN5ICcTW0U08CvkQ=w578-h640" width="578" /></a></div><br /><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEijQX8jbRUqPEJBlxU8ck-5CnCITXNQJmrO_LOVcihhgj4ya-zJG7wTy1kSIzEQZz6SU3cz0C_DfJl6vvF_fgLFmq0FCDdbGLBkq4ipzwICpUOVjSs6VF_Y4bgbIynWRcR_jEo8emc9ppy_7DFRRPT3pjVhhkJMkljPit3EkxFJhdoem_OvEpWQHk5Kdw=s874" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="724" data-original-width="874" height="530" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEijQX8jbRUqPEJBlxU8ck-5CnCITXNQJmrO_LOVcihhgj4ya-zJG7wTy1kSIzEQZz6SU3cz0C_DfJl6vvF_fgLFmq0FCDdbGLBkq4ipzwICpUOVjSs6VF_Y4bgbIynWRcR_jEo8emc9ppy_7DFRRPT3pjVhhkJMkljPit3EkxFJhdoem_OvEpWQHk5Kdw=w640-h530" width="640" /></a></div><p></p><p><br /></p><p><span style="color: #93c47d; font-size: large;">Haunted Mansion Connections?</span></p><p>Like I say, this is pretty thin gruel, but for what it's worth . . .</p><p>It has been noticed that the 1761 edition of the <i>Imaginary Prisons</i> set incorporated here and there what look like "<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impossible_object" target="_blank">impossible objects</a>."</p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEgloLz5534ix8ZnwtK-h6Oi2Ixf2AU-vhRZJwYOqbsnZk2Qlm7fUlvso0QhucUjBn1Mgc2bXlaDn5xVOjIPHY1iHW0VkI_GtWqx29djfHXet_F0BPJfzc9fH-Ow5NfNFzUbvcuglbaeJDj0KeVaGcixK_fG3AsKWl7iZtsAtJCKqVDl1tz4TZiqbNq0Dg=s809" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="809" data-original-width="477" height="640" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEgloLz5534ix8ZnwtK-h6Oi2Ixf2AU-vhRZJwYOqbsnZk2Qlm7fUlvso0QhucUjBn1Mgc2bXlaDn5xVOjIPHY1iHW0VkI_GtWqx29djfHXet_F0BPJfzc9fH-Ow5NfNFzUbvcuglbaeJDj0KeVaGcixK_fG3AsKWl7iZtsAtJCKqVDl1tz4TZiqbNq0Dg=w378-h640" width="378" /></a></div><p></p><p style="text-align: center;">Not surprisingly, it has been suggested that Piranesi was an influence on <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M._C._Escher" target="_blank">M. C. Escher</a>. These are often compared:<br /></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEj9i_JZBezJK-eZqtpCyO_30m1XBqtGojS1JojjR7XarzRmTef0Xngu38I0qTqiEkmSKSuIaCBYHrqVA2m2MuDKGcrV_iMbxp9rX7ssfOrgq-dxPhfcj3NAiEdlL9uz1Z_hfH1bn5hc-EgVQZUaqfRhoxa5kLQZ71avELEF5FGCNAoJxprPTfPnuKDfcg=s910" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="910" data-original-width="529" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEj9i_JZBezJK-eZqtpCyO_30m1XBqtGojS1JojjR7XarzRmTef0Xngu38I0qTqiEkmSKSuIaCBYHrqVA2m2MuDKGcrV_iMbxp9rX7ssfOrgq-dxPhfcj3NAiEdlL9uz1Z_hfH1bn5hc-EgVQZUaqfRhoxa5kLQZ71avELEF5FGCNAoJxprPTfPnuKDfcg=s16000" /></a></div><p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="text-align: left;">Since </span><span style="text-align: left;">that particular </span><span style="text-align: left;">Escher</span><i style="text-align: left;"> </i><span style="text-align: left;">piece is the obvious inspiration for the WDW HM "Grand Staircase" scene, S</span><span style="text-align: left;">omeone might argue for a connection here between Piranesi and the Mansions at second or third hand.</span></p><p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="text-align: left;">I think a slightly better case may be made that some of Nathan Schroeder's concept art for the 2003 Haunted Mansion movie could have been inspired by the </span><i style="text-align: left;">Imaginary Prisons</i><span style="text-align: left;"> artwork. Here's Schroeder:</span></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEhR5Gg3iEvGxXpeoDN_WJcoib8bf3UUagN-CeJGZdmjwrW3vAuTuPLIeVv4aF1WrmtOFL9N23au2d1kX_DOIrWZq_hO2T1ckiBF16Bfn6PvLNXf9FPgQYrfQgbGDrHCVT9sjO5kwp4zleWTyLgwHc5vnEK0JKuANnNz-PFa3jFX5NcwdXiNP3iEKsMfPQ=s1502" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="985" data-original-width="1502" height="420" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEhR5Gg3iEvGxXpeoDN_WJcoib8bf3UUagN-CeJGZdmjwrW3vAuTuPLIeVv4aF1WrmtOFL9N23au2d1kX_DOIrWZq_hO2T1ckiBF16Bfn6PvLNXf9FPgQYrfQgbGDrHCVT9sjO5kwp4zleWTyLgwHc5vnEK0JKuANnNz-PFa3jFX5NcwdXiNP3iEKsMfPQ=w640-h420" width="640" /></a></div><p>Alas, not much of this design for the crypt scene made it into the movie, which rejected those heavy stone arches in favor of lighter wrought iron work. Admittedly, that's more in keeping with a New Orleans setting, and besides, it offered greater flexibility for camera angles.</p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEj6vNdT4EYfEkSJMrNmqu9JT3-PsXMYdGIjJfyrN8Z-GTMN6sT7JvECJXbYhKEX6BeVY7RWvMOt5PhjwsqzM7qj4eP4dvUsqCqYBGcQGY9di9qudxpnk37QwrrIY-nX6ffnEujx8JRGOsNqe-eAGdz91mRXcUca4I1VUmRhRdCgM4OEuw3eugxEbExlww=s695" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="695" data-original-width="507" height="640" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEj6vNdT4EYfEkSJMrNmqu9JT3-PsXMYdGIjJfyrN8Z-GTMN6sT7JvECJXbYhKEX6BeVY7RWvMOt5PhjwsqzM7qj4eP4dvUsqCqYBGcQGY9di9qudxpnk37QwrrIY-nX6ffnEujx8JRGOsNqe-eAGdz91mRXcUca4I1VUmRhRdCgM4OEuw3eugxEbExlww=w466-h640" width="466" /></a></div><p style="text-align: left;">But anyway, compare Schroeder with some of the Piranesi etchings above, as well as some others in the set, like this one. There's enough there to at least raise suspicions.</p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEjBn7cSyE2A9EYaK6q7u4OeDSC3RcRjJzMfOee4sq-9sygQAnEKoBgBiTP0vmAT_Id8xFCMacUTufOWwZy7uNIN9kJLRmVK9NSRnmXp5CN4MvUvDTSx7falPg2PmviHC57za1FR-4gba_dRZDo_baYFp1j2ad1AiNcu0E3juBzsif9upDlZKW065i-iAg=s2000" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="1539" data-original-width="2000" height="492" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEjBn7cSyE2A9EYaK6q7u4OeDSC3RcRjJzMfOee4sq-9sygQAnEKoBgBiTP0vmAT_Id8xFCMacUTufOWwZy7uNIN9kJLRmVK9NSRnmXp5CN4MvUvDTSx7falPg2PmviHC57za1FR-4gba_dRZDo_baYFp1j2ad1AiNcu0E3juBzsif9upDlZKW065i-iAg=w640-h492" width="640" /></a></div><p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: red;"><span style="font-size: x-large;"></span></span></p><p style="text-align: center;">I'm afraid that's about all you're going to get in the way of Mansion connections. Sorry.</p><p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: red;"><span style="font-size: x-large;">****************</span></span><br /></p><p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: red;"><span style="font-size: x-large;"><br /></span></span></p>HBG2http://www.blogger.com/profile/05073387557562504315noreply@blogger.com17tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4444762441887107389.post-77367925812593913802021-10-19T16:20:00.003-07:002021-10-23T21:32:09.295-07:00Needlepoint, Ironwork, and Dead Snow Balls (Once Again, the Lichten Book)<p>Forgottenistas know that Frances Lichten's <i><b><span style="color: #f4cccc;">Decorative Art of Victoria's Era</span> </b></i>(1950) is one of the few books one may point to and claim with absolute certainty that it had a direct influence on the Haunted Mansion's Imagineers. We highlighted this book several years ago, on the occasion of our seventh anniversary, so <a href="https://longforgottenhauntedmansion.blogspot.com/2017/04/seven-years.html" target="_blank">go there</a> first if you need to refresh your memory and want to see a lot of really neat pictures. I'll wait right here until you get back.</p><p></p><ul style="text-align: left;"><li><span style="color: #fff2cc;">Lichten is where Ken Anderson got the exterior design for the Anaheim Mansion.</span></li><li><span style="color: #fff2cc;">Lichten is where Claude Coats got the exterior design for the Orlando Mansion.</span></li><li><span style="color: #fff2cc;">Lichten is where Marc Davis got design ideas for a concept intended for the foyer.</span></li></ul><p></p><p>I ended that earlier post with a promise to comb through the book again for any additional points of contact, and like Captain Hook, your humble blog administrator always keeps his promises, even if it takes five years.</p><p><span style="font-size: medium;"><b>I've come back with four more items to talk about.</b></span></p><p>Only one of them represents a clear and convincing case of direct influence, but I can't take credit for that one. It had already been noticed by <a href="https://passport2dreams.blogspot.com/2013/10/raising-or-lowering-dead.html" target="_blank">Foxx Nolte</a> several years before our earlier post. However, Foxxy only mentions it more or less in passing, and it's buried deep in the bowels of a long post, without pictures or page numbers, so I suspect that relatively few Mansionites have noticed it, and even fewer have followed up on it to see if it's legit.</p><p>It is. And it's high time it received the full LF treatment. Everyone got their magnifying glass?</p><p><br /></p><p><span style="color: #b6d7a8;"><span style="font-size: large;">(1) Stop and Snag the Roses</span></span></p><p>The TOMB SWEET TOMB cross-stitch sampler in the Corridor of Doors sports an authentically Victorian rose-and-violet border design. You have to look close, but if you do you'll see that the floral design is the same in the DL and the WDW versions, even though the specific coloration of the flowers is quite different:</p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjMs5aK4O0EK4MlA_ITv1KV1ZM9QjnKDbrrPpP5WRdNC7uTcAUZxPE6CcjWCI9nDPAux-h0he_WI8YU63kEogfYSuUm0BeBRvzANAiTmi_GdDiEBy2s7wZrLEEwaKz-y9vdsJDWioibboOX/s849/WDW+Tomb+Sweet+Tomb+BETTER+copy.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="757" data-original-width="849" height="571" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjMs5aK4O0EK4MlA_ITv1KV1ZM9QjnKDbrrPpP5WRdNC7uTcAUZxPE6CcjWCI9nDPAux-h0he_WI8YU63kEogfYSuUm0BeBRvzANAiTmi_GdDiEBy2s7wZrLEEwaKz-y9vdsJDWioibboOX/w640-h571/WDW+Tomb+Sweet+Tomb+BETTER+copy.jpg" width="640" /></a></div><div style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #fce5cd; font-size: large;">Walt Disney World</span></div><div><br /></div><div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgzh4TfTLH4__ewsH0SmFWrSWdgdEplPwkbubc3CpOotrQpafWNgGDiyZ4b8IrFEl7Lz29lwy0w1Kw8MNipRdGKcxC44u-kATCLBOKDh2muXLSGj7E3YIQ0XXleAKAVherRyFMUXlfCBE7H/s585/r4+Tomb+sweet+tomb+set+surrell+copy.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="532" data-original-width="585" height="582" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgzh4TfTLH4__ewsH0SmFWrSWdgdEplPwkbubc3CpOotrQpafWNgGDiyZ4b8IrFEl7Lz29lwy0w1Kw8MNipRdGKcxC44u-kATCLBOKDh2muXLSGj7E3YIQ0XXleAKAVherRyFMUXlfCBE7H/w640-h582/r4+Tomb+sweet+tomb+set+surrell+copy.jpg" width="640" /></a></div><div style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #fce5cd; font-size: large;">Disneyland</span></div></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgpViaZIkhvCMfRijzH11TdroD4DlxJwlG7YIBe2bj6vJtgh0vdMisUJlWoBXWdZ6G3YplNxE99XsEEnVnnorgMzJlio4KWh3TXZCrrR6e1C0z7Om9l_-lUGTtxzwNHJnsOS0TyXksG0Uwj/s613/best2.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="360" data-original-width="613" height="376" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgpViaZIkhvCMfRijzH11TdroD4DlxJwlG7YIBe2bj6vJtgh0vdMisUJlWoBXWdZ6G3YplNxE99XsEEnVnnorgMzJlio4KWh3TXZCrrR6e1C0z7Om9l_-lUGTtxzwNHJnsOS0TyXksG0Uwj/w640-h376/best2.jpg" width="640" /></a></div><br /><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;">This exact needlepoint design is found in <i>Decorative Art</i> (p. 122). The fact that the photo is black and white might explain</div><div style="text-align: center;">why the coloration in the two Mansion versions doesn't match. Each could be a free attempt to colorize the <span style="font-family: arial;">b&w</span> original.</div><div><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjXukhDvF8LC59AdbpYKcFgn599u_sUgK09ckMW4GlLKceBLf0p4JQBHNAiVmbf6U5YSW1YueABbDOGjh_nzA0FVMqg5OZiwEnUxLSTTVcq3HTjHvAxpi32ZxOWTdlSobPOK4dPXLlULP90/s860/lichten+122.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="806" data-original-width="860" height="600" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjXukhDvF8LC59AdbpYKcFgn599u_sUgK09ckMW4GlLKceBLf0p4JQBHNAiVmbf6U5YSW1YueABbDOGjh_nzA0FVMqg5OZiwEnUxLSTTVcq3HTjHvAxpi32ZxOWTdlSobPOK4dPXLlULP90/w640-h600/lichten+122.jpg" width="640" /></a></div><div><br /></div><div><br /></div><div style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #ead1dc;">Side by side, to satisfy the skeptics among you:</span></div><div style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #ead1dc;"><br /></span></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjvQ_qcOYCDhOCtm_p7y7GvK-bfncYIUE2yh97rg1of3LBcsUUskuJjKdXZDdbAH5e0mUjPEUfj5V5KPWT4d4Gre2E0A3C1xV7b5NOP0QzD3mmx0g7Uo8JbAJPNhe0SqWBEHdO2oZbKOF6l/s558/WDW+and+Lichten+122+copy+2.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="424" data-original-width="558" height="486" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjvQ_qcOYCDhOCtm_p7y7GvK-bfncYIUE2yh97rg1of3LBcsUUskuJjKdXZDdbAH5e0mUjPEUfj5V5KPWT4d4Gre2E0A3C1xV7b5NOP0QzD3mmx0g7Uo8JbAJPNhe0SqWBEHdO2oZbKOF6l/w640-h486/WDW+and+Lichten+122+copy+2.jpg" width="640" /></a></div><br /><div>It is <i>possible</i> that the design seen in the Lichten book was (or became) so popular that the designer of the TOMB SWEET TOMB needlepoint copied it from somewhere else, but my own online snooping around suggests that the design is not a common one. In fact, I haven't seen it anywhere but in <i>Decorative Art</i> and in the Mansion samplers. And since Lichten was in the WDI (then WED) library and was certainly made use of by at least three different HM Imagineers, the simplest assumption is that it was the source of the needlepoint design. So I think Foxxy is correct, and we can safely add a fourth bullet-point to our list:</div><div><span style="font-size: xx-small;"><br /></span></div><div><ul style="text-align: left;"><li><span style="color: #fff2cc;">Lichten supplied the needlepoint design for the TOMB SWEET TOMB floral borders.</span></li></ul></div><div><br /></div><div><br /></div><div><span style="color: #b6d7a8; font-size: large;">(2) The Coalbrookdale Benches</span></div><div><br /></div><div>There is another suspected Lichten connection that didn't really pan out as hoped. It involved some outdoor benches at WDW:</div><div><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj-_2j9ldNp-aHFrS8V0jCE2Mkmks8Ev7vAKkrlgfJQbjmMcyvejX4Y0Dw7Dr1xmwj5ZYGvKF_zL47B2-mXxo-Hfu_JtPnWaSlp0-6bY-spN7F4TXiUSSfXP1FLQ65bKjLlDaruCe4Vfx9T/s843/sideside.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="712" data-original-width="843" height="540" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj-_2j9ldNp-aHFrS8V0jCE2Mkmks8Ev7vAKkrlgfJQbjmMcyvejX4Y0Dw7Dr1xmwj5ZYGvKF_zL47B2-mXxo-Hfu_JtPnWaSlp0-6bY-spN7F4TXiUSSfXP1FLQ65bKjLlDaruCe4Vfx9T/w640-h540/sideside.jpg" width="640" /></a></div><br /><div style="text-align: center;">The bench in Lichten's book (p. 34) is part of a grotesque furniture set from Hamburg made with stag horns,</div><div style="text-align: center;">dated 1851. Note that it and the WDW benches not only have doggy armrests, but dog's paw feet as well.</div><div><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjD-Fv9H37cfRHnuRALqWcNjuGS_K0mkO1l_qOfgj7QplHOCIWhfnf1jN-BWBGnfFdgEkTCtDT9uvlKLeehgVi7jMFu9BvbHN4sx2m-SgET8CfG19Yp35uXUOgGlZC-gIRzFI2QfF8tj_30/s538/lichten+34.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="397" data-original-width="538" height="472" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjD-Fv9H37cfRHnuRALqWcNjuGS_K0mkO1l_qOfgj7QplHOCIWhfnf1jN-BWBGnfFdgEkTCtDT9uvlKLeehgVi7jMFu9BvbHN4sx2m-SgET8CfG19Yp35uXUOgGlZC-gIRzFI2QfF8tj_30/w640-h472/lichten+34.jpg" width="640" /></a></div><br /><div style="text-align: center;">(Incidentally, I'm told that a guest put the red eyes on the dogs with some nail polish, </div><div style="text-align: center;">and the park liked the result so much that they've kept them red ever since!)</div><div><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjCezl53ueJOttR7XKJAY37UqNK8057wACiJcWU0YcvK0MzvUEeNaeYfl7ETvnoAotFmbCRwJPQ_8lnfXmST73byjOLy_r5jL4vfhP7xuo87ZoB8F3grp4uU0CGuzy15UwFlBvCix-mm4wB/s681/jack+spence+dog+bench.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="681" data-original-width="495" height="640" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjCezl53ueJOttR7XKJAY37UqNK8057wACiJcWU0YcvK0MzvUEeNaeYfl7ETvnoAotFmbCRwJPQ_8lnfXmST73byjOLy_r5jL4vfhP7xuo87ZoB8F3grp4uU0CGuzy15UwFlBvCix-mm4wB/w466-h640/jack+spence+dog+bench.jpg" width="466" /></a></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><span style="color: #bf9000;">pics by Jack Spence</span></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjYwcq4T4uZmCRiujfrGv0BB7zwXheNtXAGM_YohUfozcdTQAFZLRBvPKBvVIsuIbpXlF98cKpqIJkHB1s9gIZJygCR4w0bNb0mwU9nq39P2CPx-lnIHNYkCjsukEY1pfxI76vjFgDdg55t/s1710/joe+penniston+3884100403_c25fa93083_o+copy.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="1468" data-original-width="1710" height="550" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjYwcq4T4uZmCRiujfrGv0BB7zwXheNtXAGM_YohUfozcdTQAFZLRBvPKBvVIsuIbpXlF98cKpqIJkHB1s9gIZJygCR4w0bNb0mwU9nq39P2CPx-lnIHNYkCjsukEY1pfxI76vjFgDdg55t/w640-h550/joe+penniston+3884100403_c25fa93083_o+copy.jpg" width="640" /></a></div><div style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #bf9000;">pic by Joe Penniston</span></div><div><br /><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><span style="text-align: left;">But hold! This bench end is <i>not</i> a Disney creation. It is a fairly common variety of Victorian-era,</span></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><i style="text-align: left;"><b><span style="color: #c27ba0;">COALBROOKDALE </span></b></i><span style="text-align: left;">cast iron bench end, and authentic antique examples are <a href="https://duckduckgo.com/?q=coalbrookdale+bench+ends+dog&t=osx&iax=images&ia=images" target="_blank">not hard to come by</a>.</span></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjm7hu1eLY498Yls_r5nFhfQuhs8mlkJ59OUciyxbMaG3zZ7xf516hyUR9XrV2VaJmCOTtx92RdBbpzCrRoVeAIdnS94MYoaoBi3TuIChCyY2WcJYjBj1AwokGDE-yAYWphV0sLCkq3N7Nz/s902/1900s.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="790" data-original-width="902" height="560" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjm7hu1eLY498Yls_r5nFhfQuhs8mlkJ59OUciyxbMaG3zZ7xf516hyUR9XrV2VaJmCOTtx92RdBbpzCrRoVeAIdnS94MYoaoBi3TuIChCyY2WcJYjBj1AwokGDE-yAYWphV0sLCkq3N7Nz/w640-h560/1900s.jpg" width="640" /></a></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhTnq5WY2LNMoRcikU3nttJF8Zm536vIq4wzMdz73MEI73aLnvUabGk-ORqFUdFhU3qbh8bQvqFNSc6hh6w4h23yhHzLFeA_zihyiDTdZ79oxUiku25xkEgF5GkBfy38evxpXallTaoMKfE/s1011/1900.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="735" data-original-width="1011" height="466" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhTnq5WY2LNMoRcikU3nttJF8Zm536vIq4wzMdz73MEI73aLnvUabGk-ORqFUdFhU3qbh8bQvqFNSc6hh6w4h23yhHzLFeA_zihyiDTdZ79oxUiku25xkEgF5GkBfy38evxpXallTaoMKfE/w640-h466/1900.jpg" width="640" /></a></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhVDpCahHGfOaK79a0pRaiYQzOBImy4KGHyPMdkSJTJsBHOxS8nNUwKPb-KM0rndNMYg8Fc3QaOx-XEMLYp_XLBe27HFe_UYYwzTbugfL_qcfxxW3hTk_YeA0GlIeMFIUwb9tKk79VrvMpF/s747/red.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="451" data-original-width="747" height="386" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhVDpCahHGfOaK79a0pRaiYQzOBImy4KGHyPMdkSJTJsBHOxS8nNUwKPb-KM0rndNMYg8Fc3QaOx-XEMLYp_XLBe27HFe_UYYwzTbugfL_qcfxxW3hTk_YeA0GlIeMFIUwb9tKk79VrvMpF/w640-h386/red.jpg" width="640" /></a></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjG840wI5Qoe6k5wdQm9CoQFEpGPLErT1Z8Nd0qBD0MDK7awdi-0TJ1ZAR9AdxkivcPEmLQXt92om9u2b1E2kd7_PNX17YHQSrHuCUSD1At2ZQltxnRUKjkfaPBD2cR9WglnHvAI8knmF7a/s581/coalbrookdale.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="581" data-original-width="363" height="640" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjG840wI5Qoe6k5wdQm9CoQFEpGPLErT1Z8Nd0qBD0MDK7awdi-0TJ1ZAR9AdxkivcPEmLQXt92om9u2b1E2kd7_PNX17YHQSrHuCUSD1At2ZQltxnRUKjkfaPBD2cR9WglnHvAI8knmF7a/w400-h640/coalbrookdale.jpg" width="400" /></a></div><br /><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;">But before you walk away in disgust, you might pause and consider the fact that those ghastly and Gaston-ish staghorn furnishings we see in Lichten were popular in early Victorian England, so it's <i>possible</i> that the original designers of the Coalbrookdale bench ends, coming a little later in the Victorian age, were inspired in part by precisely the sort of thing we see reproduced in <i>Decorative Art</i>, possibly even by that very same illustration, found by them in the same source book where Lichten discovered it. In that case the WDW bench ends would still share a link with Lichten, if only in a derivative and roundabout way.</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;">But even if there is no connection, this whole thing hasn't been a <i>total</i> waste: You</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;">Floridian Mansionites now know how to correctly identify those über-cool benches.</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"> </div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><span style="color: #d9d2e9;"><span style="font-size: medium;">"I just<i> love</i> the Coalbrookdale ironwork on these benches, don't you?"</span></span></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><span style="color: #d9d2e9;"><span style="font-size: medium;">( And <i>boom</i>, she's all impressed. Works <i>every</i> time. ) </span></span><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><span style="color: #b6d7a8; font-size: large;">(3) Further Ironic Comments</span></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;">Our third Lichten item is the pair of photos of the wrought ironwork on the porches of the Shipley-Leydecker house. Foxxy was sufficiently impressed with the resemblance to suggest that these photos directly inspired the ironwork of the Mansion.</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgUBcBNa7_TpNRV7RJqTlp2jQ9TMKoDYuHME4cpiXVpeG0qioQtf_owDMNi3nFI-GLaGLQZneU5LAw2wVxlN0PQlKFfBaF9KE1PBo_SrtDwYJ2VyGA0XDLSupWXvbzbWA0wZS5oyzPuCK2v/s961/lich3.png" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="961" data-original-width="740" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgUBcBNa7_TpNRV7RJqTlp2jQ9TMKoDYuHME4cpiXVpeG0qioQtf_owDMNi3nFI-GLaGLQZneU5LAw2wVxlN0PQlKFfBaF9KE1PBo_SrtDwYJ2VyGA0XDLSupWXvbzbWA0wZS5oyzPuCK2v/s16000/lich3.png" /></a></div><br /><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;">I'm not so sure. We already <i>know</i> that the Mansion's look was directly inspired by this photo</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;">of the Shipley house, and you can see the basic design of the ironwork in it clearly enough:</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhhvzFyd7KbK9sIcEfX0HsLYEVSTdalT-3ZWLPb8LrlroUXAt7lBHI9WFH8EPiDZkOfe4JVQBE1GKp31jn-eUQgHNfkYvqclcuFzUi5aSQXJ4MC5oRQKPobFHx4OAGryGKxV61MFe-CQ5Yk/s681/shipley+lydecker+adjusted+copy.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="586" data-original-width="681" height="550" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhhvzFyd7KbK9sIcEfX0HsLYEVSTdalT-3ZWLPb8LrlroUXAt7lBHI9WFH8EPiDZkOfe4JVQBE1GKp31jn-eUQgHNfkYvqclcuFzUi5aSQXJ4MC5oRQKPobFHx4OAGryGKxV61MFe-CQ5Yk/w640-h550/shipley+lydecker+adjusted+copy.jpg" width="640" /></a></div><br /><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;">But up close the design is noticeably different from the Mansion's ironwork, so why would you suppose that in addition to the long shot, the close-up Lichten photos inspired the specific wrought iron design of the HM? Side by side, the differences are as striking as the general similarity.</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhkhOOjFU-zS7IprNl2t91tTl2jYysbKFVq12pzvZNfhco-aeFswTbAyZgOWVwK9R21NTbsZramU_XJ3qhu2u7QJOSFz-cu-tUDqHb9i0W5cqg-p2_eoZmtHrPVpyfnqMYo_n_6MFJNShjY/s789/Screen+Shot+2021-10-09+at+7.44.23+PM.png" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="482" data-original-width="789" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhkhOOjFU-zS7IprNl2t91tTl2jYysbKFVq12pzvZNfhco-aeFswTbAyZgOWVwK9R21NTbsZramU_XJ3qhu2u7QJOSFz-cu-tUDqHb9i0W5cqg-p2_eoZmtHrPVpyfnqMYo_n_6MFJNShjY/s16000/Screen+Shot+2021-10-09+at+7.44.23+PM.png" /></a></div></div><br /><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;">But then again, perhaps there <i>is </i>something to the theory after all.</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"> <a href="https://longforgottenhauntedmansion.blogspot.com/2011/07/weirder-haunted-mansion.html" target="_blank">As we know</a>, the Mansion ironwork is an off-the-shelf design known as "Bird-of-Paradise."</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEh4HPvn1AhrZ9sHin3f1HpzA0oXdhb5KboX2mHcujGmrNSpoQOjp6gKsZiQOAVjLyaj1-YH4bmScsAQPHIa7JvY-0dUn0n-KJxjoLtMngAZR-omodA9kb0M1hffALfZ9HFGzMa2tSFxuoBk/s505/bird+of+p.png" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="505" data-original-width="355" height="640" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEh4HPvn1AhrZ9sHin3f1HpzA0oXdhb5KboX2mHcujGmrNSpoQOjp6gKsZiQOAVjLyaj1-YH4bmScsAQPHIa7JvY-0dUn0n-KJxjoLtMngAZR-omodA9kb0M1hffALfZ9HFGzMa2tSFxuoBk/w450-h640/bird+of+p.png" width="450" /></a></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;">After looking more closely, I'm thinking it's not altogether impossible that the selection of Bird-of-Paradise over other choices may have been</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;">inspired by one of the Lichten photos, which shows a somewhat similar zoomorphic shape at the Shipley house, unless it's just a trick of the light:</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjoE7oLsLJfaa-YDQSB1W7vAL-TFoInbuwAiuoGGvluGR8PqUr2G5EV3MDI0X50IkH66lDSldGGQk3tI1oYRVxxnfwJoqTSFeoMZSkuQEEmK9srXp2UztEyBGcZpEOZ81fbc8mp50fp2kEb/s921/lich1a.png" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="775" data-original-width="921" height="538" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjoE7oLsLJfaa-YDQSB1W7vAL-TFoInbuwAiuoGGvluGR8PqUr2G5EV3MDI0X50IkH66lDSldGGQk3tI1oYRVxxnfwJoqTSFeoMZSkuQEEmK9srXp2UztEyBGcZpEOZ81fbc8mp50fp2kEb/w640-h538/lich1a.png" width="640" /></a></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhEvrqsVl934p26g67kGi_b8mYiatavTO_zcCzOECdIeglVrDaWXuCH82NVomRaVoVnm4m90oKMrvopiR76gwx5hf_zVfWEvy0Cf_wBnaxeoU9rMCdKZ1Oc60XeGUOaPk0eobKzeOIK3i9p/s582/Screen+Shot+2021-10-09+at+6.46.41+PM.png" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="582" data-original-width="430" height="640" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhEvrqsVl934p26g67kGi_b8mYiatavTO_zcCzOECdIeglVrDaWXuCH82NVomRaVoVnm4m90oKMrvopiR76gwx5hf_zVfWEvy0Cf_wBnaxeoU9rMCdKZ1Oc60XeGUOaPk0eobKzeOIK3i9p/w472-h640/Screen+Shot+2021-10-09+at+6.46.41+PM.png" width="472" /></a></div><br /><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;">I think it's a coincidence. But who knows? Add it to the long list of Mansion mysteries we will never solve.</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;">Lichten also has a photo of the veranda of another house, in Philadelphia (p. 106), and it's hard to deny that it has a similar feel to</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;">the lovely south porch of the Anaheim Mansion. Whether that translates to "direct influence," you'll have to decide for yourselves.</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiGWojNVGbXEhDUOt-s0fmgBNQ9RjhRnTJHNjBFiFU_pHpdNnQmr_2zHhIvRTeRuMKRbkICJU2TIbhi6iYy_WI4vtHU_rSdXpg0CauMD5BkJJoCUEfqql4jZdp9HNZAdmVNQNO0zeLzC5fy/s884/lich4.png" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="884" data-original-width="655" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiGWojNVGbXEhDUOt-s0fmgBNQ9RjhRnTJHNjBFiFU_pHpdNnQmr_2zHhIvRTeRuMKRbkICJU2TIbhi6iYy_WI4vtHU_rSdXpg0CauMD5BkJJoCUEfqql4jZdp9HNZAdmVNQNO0zeLzC5fy/s16000/lich4.png" /></a></div><br /><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhfqfkosHrKOohAsxSAL1vpEY82zDwoSJd3zg7tezNIsEKoG2ssqcC8IJNIda-M6aKNGlZ87LKiC6QY3uWc-0XauP627hCGVoOZvkcFOYoucX1IBusRzdhA-nEbatAjn7oCYwg-lkCqUeOu/s900/11_19_62_HMContactSht2.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="877" data-original-width="900" height="624" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhfqfkosHrKOohAsxSAL1vpEY82zDwoSJd3zg7tezNIsEKoG2ssqcC8IJNIda-M6aKNGlZ87LKiC6QY3uWc-0XauP627hCGVoOZvkcFOYoucX1IBusRzdhA-nEbatAjn7oCYwg-lkCqUeOu/w640-h624/11_19_62_HMContactSht2.jpg" width="640" /></a></div><br /><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjRL28fjhlne37Ke1w0CxnHCofI-zYngJSOX_tufmeWUhlKHir6wb57P7bhIIYU8-y1ppfmKVUkM5KSUQl7I26BusliIxfO6xBJz4vvOInJ8q9cNhflPGNP1jEgVKO415KKlm6hCt-_0Vt2/s944/disneyfans2.png" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="944" data-original-width="651" height="640" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjRL28fjhlne37Ke1w0CxnHCofI-zYngJSOX_tufmeWUhlKHir6wb57P7bhIIYU8-y1ppfmKVUkM5KSUQl7I26BusliIxfO6xBJz4vvOInJ8q9cNhflPGNP1jEgVKO415KKlm6hCt-_0Vt2/w442-h640/disneyfans2.png" width="442" /></a></div><div style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #cfe2f3; font-size: x-small;">Allen Huffmann</span></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div><div><span style="color: #b6d7a8; font-size: large;">(4) Last, if Not Leashed</span></div><div><br /></div><div>One more, and then I think we can let Lichten rest in peace for awhile. In this case there's no suggestion of <i>influence</i>, but I think it's worth pointing out that <i>Decorative Art</i> furnishes us with a particularly good example of <a href="https://longforgottenhauntedmansion.blogspot.com/2010/07/pet-cemeteries.html" target="_blank">Victorian fondness for pet cemeteries</a>. Someone grieved enough over poor Snow Ball to erect an impressive little monument. </div><div><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjtuQaeDrsUOmQIPmlGDyjEiPU3_PTt2Fd2RQP62lH0nmA_ojiReiVIRCwM-OYzYuFfhRR_v-inzH68FUAZ7rYouNgdDYcdsj6DWbjoSu_jt_m8gP-2dTDsL3DbE4qh7d0OH3Yo5i53fhY5/s699/lich2.png" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="699" data-original-width="592" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjtuQaeDrsUOmQIPmlGDyjEiPU3_PTt2Fd2RQP62lH0nmA_ojiReiVIRCwM-OYzYuFfhRR_v-inzH68FUAZ7rYouNgdDYcdsj6DWbjoSu_jt_m8gP-2dTDsL3DbE4qh7d0OH3Yo5i53fhY5/s16000/lich2.png" /></a></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;">It's tiny and tucked into the corner of page 223, and no mention is made in the text</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;">of the obvious fact that the decedent is a dog or a cat, so this one is easy to overlook.</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;">It's also easy to imagine Snow Ball in one of the Haunted Mansion pet cemeteries; in fact, this could almost</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;">pass for a concept sketch for one of the animal grave markers, don't you think? Note the leash/collar on</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;">the ground. This is <i>definitely</i> the closest real-world parallel to the pet cemetery markers I've ever seen.</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhTl9DyxWI6JNgpY0VX5iqlaXdWMgZwbcnt1-ISXMTX0dz1aL9nrNLXTvm68u2c16J18M63gATAwJxfPmfUzgJGypvNBQRhwUshXf5SpYMK3Danw4FWgucaKTIKLRm0LTif-ytN-FyuAa-B/s523/snobal.png" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="523" data-original-width="494" height="640" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhTl9DyxWI6JNgpY0VX5iqlaXdWMgZwbcnt1-ISXMTX0dz1aL9nrNLXTvm68u2c16J18M63gATAwJxfPmfUzgJGypvNBQRhwUshXf5SpYMK3Danw4FWgucaKTIKLRm0LTif-ytN-FyuAa-B/w604-h640/snobal.png" width="604" /></a></div><br /><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><span style="color: #45818e; font-size: x-large;">*******************</span></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><span style="color: #45818e; font-size: x-large;"><br /></span></div><br /><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div><br />HBG2http://www.blogger.com/profile/05073387557562504315noreply@blogger.com6tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4444762441887107389.post-23840916113265494122021-09-24T20:49:00.018-07:002021-10-14T18:30:11.984-07:00Making Faces<div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiIJdgWrpRgkMDkzr5FJyhLyRJWLaQ9m6Q2jNftAxwpg_Ts9vy9TyMT7Atmk0R7cJTWVnrFNfv2owZywexUorjSpOyXCkdUbZq5Xgp3BsQFUDhJBQPBaBBweWtjkJwY2DX8oSVFFnlVIIWU/s1031/1+copy.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="614" data-original-width="1031" height="382" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiIJdgWrpRgkMDkzr5FJyhLyRJWLaQ9m6Q2jNftAxwpg_Ts9vy9TyMT7Atmk0R7cJTWVnrFNfv2owZywexUorjSpOyXCkdUbZq5Xgp3BsQFUDhJBQPBaBBweWtjkJwY2DX8oSVFFnlVIIWU/w640-h382/1+copy.jpg" width="640" /></a></div><span class="Apple-style-span" face=""Trebuchet MS", Trebuchet, Verdana, sans-serif" style="caret-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); color: #cccccc;"><div style="text-align: center;"><span style="font-size: x-small;">(pic by Michael Hansen<span class="Apple-style-span" style="text-align: center;">)</span></span></div><div style="font-size: xx-small; text-align: center;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="text-align: center;"><br /></span></div></span><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjmUEHbpKdPzDpkUI8HDMcg8g6DLJy9FheWh_b5f6exsnozGMKJ96GypSdGi91gpy22zkibPsxb0OdgvGz-NKINQyp5Viijw77q9JAr1OrDWwQXw4CAZps2oHFR4M4NE9zRIaTSSVlyW-M5/s739/leota+fixxy.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="739" data-original-width="731" height="640" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjmUEHbpKdPzDpkUI8HDMcg8g6DLJy9FheWh_b5f6exsnozGMKJ96GypSdGi91gpy22zkibPsxb0OdgvGz-NKINQyp5Viijw77q9JAr1OrDWwQXw4CAZps2oHFR4M4NE9zRIaTSSVlyW-M5/w634-h640/leota+fixxy.jpg" width="634" /></a></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div><p>The old Master himself, Yale Gracey (with modest assistance from Rolly Crump), is credited with coming up with two different ways of creating a ghostly face, one by looking at the <i>convex</i> side of a blank mask ("<b>the Leota effect</b>") and one by looking at the <i>concave</i> side ("<b>the Lucretia effect</b>"). The latter is my own suggested term for what is sometimes called the "follow-you bust" effect, or any number of other clunky titles. <span style="color: #b4a7d6;">[Edit: Richard Kaufman points out to me that the illusion itself has a long history and is commonly called the "hollow man" illusion. "Hollow face" and "hollow mask" are also common.]</span> "The Leota effect" is actually anachronistic, inasmuch as Leota herself has not been done via "the Leota effect" for a very long time. The Singing Busts and Little Leota, however, still use the classic Leota effect, which involves projecting an animated facial image onto a blank white dummy face, so perhaps we should re-christen it "the Little Leota effect" or something like that, but alas, "the Leota effect" has been so standard for so long that it's probably an exercise in futility to try to change it now.</p><p>What's not obvious at first is how intertwined the two effects were, both in their original development and later on, when the Imagineers tried to improve both effects in the late 1980s and early 90s. Indeed, so confident were those guys in their new technology that they even conceived of using it to create a take-home souvenir, but that never materialized.</p><p>Today's post contains at least one bombshell revelation, along with a bunch of long-forgotten history, in some cases forgotten because it involves <i>plans that either came to naught or half a page of scribbled lines</i> <span style="color: #f4cccc;">(I'm feeling kinda Pink Floydish lately. Halloween of this year marks the 50th anniversary of the release of their classic album, <i>Meddle</i>, which immediately captured my imagination in 1971 and still lives there rent free.)</span></p><p><br /></p><p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #b6d7a8; font-size: large;">The <strike>Lucretia</strike> <i>Juarez</i> Effect</span></p><p style="text-align: left;">As many of you know, that sour-faced old spinster who glowers at you in the changing portrait hall (alongside an equally grumpy but nameless man with a Moe Howard haircut) is Aunt Lucretia. That's her official name. Originally, she was going to be part of the singing bust ensemble in the graveyard. Instead she ended up here in the portrait hall and on the mantelpiece in the ballroom. That's all been <a href="https://longforgottenhauntedmansion.blogspot.com/search?q=lucretia" target="_blank">talked about before</a>. Also well-known is the story of how Yale and Rolly supposedly invented the Lucretia effect. As Rolly tells it, he and Yale were messing around with a Lincoln mask, working out the beginnings of what would eventually lead to the Leota effect, when they noticed the weird optical illusion created by the convex side, and starting from there the two worked out the Lucretia effect <span style="color: #a2c4c9; font-size: x-small;">(Surrell, <i>Haunted Mansion</i> [3rd ed], 81; Baham, <i>Unauthorized</i>, 89)</span>.</p><p style="text-align: center;">Here's a sketch from Yale's notebooks, clearly showing the effect exactly as it is today:</p><table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"><tbody><tr><td style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhyj3_GzcvYbKpzrgBwPaad1TL3KXZ900a6K8J07aV25aP-6MMN5JhGiYDsPveQ5878UEhBshBuxmkuB6rkdAUapN04leNisGuAf8EX85yF0gr1YmHC45h6-3t_wKdUAv2VuJC1W7ZWVwFC/s628/yale1.jpg" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"><img border="0" data-original-height="346" data-original-width="628" height="352" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhyj3_GzcvYbKpzrgBwPaad1TL3KXZ900a6K8J07aV25aP-6MMN5JhGiYDsPveQ5878UEhBshBuxmkuB6rkdAUapN04leNisGuAf8EX85yF0gr1YmHC45h6-3t_wKdUAv2VuJC1W7ZWVwFC/w640-h352/yale1.jpg" width="640" /></a></td></tr><tr><td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"></td></tr></tbody></table><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg6usE0_R7hUdZ0NRvX5GodOvMgyFkrfoB_mAEKQ-dr8MWUt8VyW7fyeAnUytIMCM6enF0zRWiy7BCIqF4qqRrobiR18SHckdxaIqoVK-ZNhtuhtL_v1b6QQa9jprhqUEhcj1kwK9htSmUy/s447/follow+you+busts.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="300" data-original-width="447" height="430" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg6usE0_R7hUdZ0NRvX5GodOvMgyFkrfoB_mAEKQ-dr8MWUt8VyW7fyeAnUytIMCM6enF0zRWiy7BCIqF4qqRrobiR18SHckdxaIqoVK-ZNhtuhtL_v1b6QQa9jprhqUEhcj1kwK9htSmUy/w640-h430/follow+you+busts.jpg" width="640" /></a></div><br /><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhaMlNZdokjVmQY_h-pLcZAow5xCw9WdV0WKdLzgqvHor_vtHZyWwtowsQ4_3ovzvw814_jdTgSdkZor5xWLgFafhr0WCsOsN2dwW3XhQK7rl6ZqRpmUC9AMOL0EvQZmxvOMKCuNXzqgmNd/s640/follow+you+busts+from+back+copy.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="480" data-original-width="640" height="480" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhaMlNZdokjVmQY_h-pLcZAow5xCw9WdV0WKdLzgqvHor_vtHZyWwtowsQ4_3ovzvw814_jdTgSdkZor5xWLgFafhr0WCsOsN2dwW3XhQK7rl6ZqRpmUC9AMOL0EvQZmxvOMKCuNXzqgmNd/w640-h480/follow+you+busts+from+back+copy.jpg" width="640" /></a></div><p style="text-align: left;">I don't doubt that Rolly is being truthful here, but the fact is, he and Yale were NOT the first to create this effect and put it to use in a haunted house environment. (That's the bombshell I was talking about.) It had already been in use for years in "El Sito Mysterio," a typical "gravity hill"<span style="color: #ff00fe; font-size: large;">*</span> attraction at Frontier Village amusement park in San Jose, California. The park opened in 1961 and closed in 1980. "El Sito" was not one of the original '61 attractions but was built a few years later.</p><p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #ffd966; font-size: medium;">Before there was Lucretia, there was<b> Juarez</b>. Here he is in a 1968 photo:</span></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhLaUamM2EyEL9h5i-RAIyEue3Y5ZQYL8XrkFpI4YBBiKoCutxGKwWBU60YrUIGHXRzyE87jYZqJw2vFxyRGU4N7DVSoVCPOXdP5TVADQ9G10TvVv6adL9xA5-A9D5zcz-0g56OzEC8d_bQ/s1052/juarez+room.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="723" data-original-width="1052" height="440" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhLaUamM2EyEL9h5i-RAIyEue3Y5ZQYL8XrkFpI4YBBiKoCutxGKwWBU60YrUIGHXRzyE87jYZqJw2vFxyRGU4N7DVSoVCPOXdP5TVADQ9G10TvVv6adL9xA5-A9D5zcz-0g56OzEC8d_bQ/w640-h440/juarez+room.jpg" width="640" /></a></div><br /><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgqqIkdYI6-463YygVyCx6Uctn305x0lmgE4_ytjwni3moK3i6QUfCvKg_CksUX3f6vujmrGgVFcNTNEQMlvkm717v0v9PHgdVSUFqg0Czo-tLJfvMmJLnacT9JCCQdBs9WFlRFUAwVw50x/s394/juarez.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="348" data-original-width="394" height="354" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgqqIkdYI6-463YygVyCx6Uctn305x0lmgE4_ytjwni3moK3i6QUfCvKg_CksUX3f6vujmrGgVFcNTNEQMlvkm717v0v9PHgdVSUFqg0Czo-tLJfvMmJLnacT9JCCQdBs9WFlRFUAwVw50x/w400-h354/juarez.jpg" title="Photos from Bob Johnson, Frontier Village [Charleston: Arcadia Publishing, 2013], 50-51)" width="400" /></a></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div><table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"><tbody><tr><td style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEh28O_qMg70kLve-rqf5969Y_QnXoFttxX5o1Hjnjj6J5ZGvbZSHLCPSjfT9ualgyz0w5q_1QLUbV1zHH9RQwQoENYVkMkDUIHhhoRyP40szMctRTXVNfuXx4bjpdaxm0ngxKiVKuFOXBWl/s810/el+sito.jpg" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"><img border="0" data-original-height="512" data-original-width="810" height="404" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEh28O_qMg70kLve-rqf5969Y_QnXoFttxX5o1Hjnjj6J5ZGvbZSHLCPSjfT9ualgyz0w5q_1QLUbV1zHH9RQwQoENYVkMkDUIHhhoRyP40szMctRTXVNfuXx4bjpdaxm0ngxKiVKuFOXBWl/w640-h404/el+sito.jpg" width="640" /></a></td></tr><tr><td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"><span style="text-align: left;"><span style="color: #d0e0e3; font-size: x-small;">Photos from: Bob Johnson,<i> Frontier Village</i> (Charleston: Arcadia, 2013), 50-51<br /><br /></span></span></td></tr></tbody></table><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><span style="color: #ffd966;">UPDATE! Found a color photo of "Juarez":</span></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiiHizQH9MdY5JN3pzAOfuPo77nDVUpGUW__R-s4jfkJ8qYsuCyBZ8xIov7gsumtiUumM8ySB3_10w722PCX05-Bdtr8S340z0UrKrzviGbOsTi-7ffp4uCyHHNCDrOWjb_K0e_kPBQClkF/s1049/El+Sito+Mysterio%252C+for+your+complete+confusion%252C+Frontier+Village%252C+San+Jose%252C+California.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="667" data-original-width="1049" height="406" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiiHizQH9MdY5JN3pzAOfuPo77nDVUpGUW__R-s4jfkJ8qYsuCyBZ8xIov7gsumtiUumM8ySB3_10w722PCX05-Bdtr8S340z0UrKrzviGbOsTi-7ffp4uCyHHNCDrOWjb_K0e_kPBQClkF/w640-h406/El+Sito+Mysterio%252C+for+your+complete+confusion%252C+Frontier+Village%252C+San+Jose%252C+California.jpg" width="640" /></a></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjIBJeJGjhS0ceEw4LLIYfvzWrWBsylwzUIe7t89cvMLilrOmXbzHVtl5GX51SJk9XgCNoWhX8ytc3EvDhLqoIYgg2n403g58jcHh_i5ZQ2qqMBvRsHQQThz5NUgxiNEUAo9aK32KDMrlRt/s410/juarez+color.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="397" data-original-width="410" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjIBJeJGjhS0ceEw4LLIYfvzWrWBsylwzUIe7t89cvMLilrOmXbzHVtl5GX51SJk9XgCNoWhX8ytc3EvDhLqoIYgg2n403g58jcHh_i5ZQ2qqMBvRsHQQThz5NUgxiNEUAo9aK32KDMrlRt/s16000/juarez+color.jpg" /></a></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;">I actually saw "Juarez" sometime in the 60s and was so amazed that I lagged behind when the group went to the next room so that I could get up close for a better look, only then figuring out how the effect was done. A few years later, when the HM opened, I immediately recognized the same effect in the portrait hall, but I forgot where I had seen Juarez, although I remembered that it was in one of those "Mystery Shack" attractions. I only ran across his photo in the <i>Frontier Village</i> book a week ago, solving a personal mystery that had baffled me for over half a century. Whether Juarez <i>originated</i> at Frontier Village or came from elsewhere, I don't know. I only know that he was there years before the Haunted Mansion opened.</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;">Someone might argue that Yale saw Juarez while doing research into haunted house attractions, but I rather suspect that this is a case of the same illusion being discovered independently by parties unknown to each other. Any one with a Halloween mask can easily see it.</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjyaGzvQkEOD0SUWAO12-9lOrkcPVYgONVi5MTBHGZdCe6bwlT-0n9R5JdisDjK5Jj0-827Jh2SLmycUpch9wrwfXMKd7H3LFXd_aqjh3LMOnbfvax-wALJH6JYMMGXyydVFrMKPUy3i3bZ/s202/tumblr_lhb8puqzvt1qahhxwo1_250.gif" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="202" data-original-width="200" height="320" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjyaGzvQkEOD0SUWAO12-9lOrkcPVYgONVi5MTBHGZdCe6bwlT-0n9R5JdisDjK5Jj0-827Jh2SLmycUpch9wrwfXMKd7H3LFXd_aqjh3LMOnbfvax-wALJH6JYMMGXyydVFrMKPUy3i3bZ/w317-h320/tumblr_lhb8puqzvt1qahhxwo1_250.gif" width="317" /></a></div><div style="text-align: center;"><br /></div><p style="text-align: left;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(182, 215, 168); color: #b6d7a8; text-align: justify;"><span style="font-size: large;">Lucretia in the 1980s and 1990s</span></span></p><p style="text-align: left;">In the late 1980s and early 1990s the Imagineers tried to use the great strides in computer technology to improve both the Lucretia and the Leota effects. The basic catalyst was the fact that photographic and videographic images could now be captured in computer files, opening up lots of new possibilities.</p><p style="text-align: center;">The first thing they did, however, was try to fix a very low-tech problem. Like they say, one picture is worth a thousand words:</p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhPzs4WFuKi56GyQk3-pIslH4VVbjI3H1tdMiOrc65lGglQJ7jZ4go83TTF5N6deeVs4gDJRutRisJdrwA_xXX6zx7I5HpOdW4ytZqvHzlwsNVcA4yzU4bSColXjlb1o9PMbQceRx8XX2aH/s493/auntlucretiapinched.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="493" data-original-width="326" height="640" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhPzs4WFuKi56GyQk3-pIslH4VVbjI3H1tdMiOrc65lGglQJ7jZ4go83TTF5N6deeVs4gDJRutRisJdrwA_xXX6zx7I5HpOdW4ytZqvHzlwsNVcA4yzU4bSColXjlb1o9PMbQceRx8XX2aH/w424-h640/auntlucretiapinched.jpg" width="424" /></a></div><br /><p style="text-align: center;">The solution to this problem was to (1) round the edges of the cutout hole and (2) make the face shallower. </p><p style="text-align: center;">They worked out the visibility angles in great detail, before and after.</p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgnTm-tw51UZTZHG5c40QWWfMR6TNNQV942zCxzk-O3s38D8CLQUJArdnNp9QGfWHw1my2bvTTi0ykp42M2nkVVvI6HZbSNJtCB1POEVD1CmQvgD8Ficw4pCdJkONOFKNlLMDentWfwLA6H/s956/qqq.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="657" data-original-width="956" height="440" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgnTm-tw51UZTZHG5c40QWWfMR6TNNQV942zCxzk-O3s38D8CLQUJArdnNp9QGfWHw1my2bvTTi0ykp42M2nkVVvI6HZbSNJtCB1POEVD1CmQvgD8Ficw4pCdJkONOFKNlLMDentWfwLA6H/w640-h440/qqq.jpg" width="640" /></a></div><p style="text-align: center;">Basically, change this . . . </p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjLg3p_37K8NfXnkoaq0j-NRbkXkTBXVV2xwO14h9S3RfiDtK1RmyGMA_fllvM97g1aGGzEsmr3gVby_2BHuTQ9pm5u923-d3hzfvWSJ4ZEW64NOVLW9BU27CNSHqsxXlQ_CiKwsfHGmarR/s523/q.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="307" data-original-width="523" height="235" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjLg3p_37K8NfXnkoaq0j-NRbkXkTBXVV2xwO14h9S3RfiDtK1RmyGMA_fllvM97g1aGGzEsmr3gVby_2BHuTQ9pm5u923-d3hzfvWSJ4ZEW64NOVLW9BU27CNSHqsxXlQ_CiKwsfHGmarR/w400-h235/q.jpg" width="400" /></a></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;">to this . . . </div><br /><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjgu-b0Y56bXkhqFmXQKTTy5cTp04FA9T4nuL1mgmVJJWhg7TNY9kBqvapNYZS4xYIWtJ2LcqHARCrEv2UkYd95O-ikxJpggNjyNzhFhLl_WGzFB7mRG8DEHq_AMOsqTBuSOXg4yYPu79O_/s524/qq.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="303" data-original-width="524" height="231" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjgu-b0Y56bXkhqFmXQKTTy5cTp04FA9T4nuL1mgmVJJWhg7TNY9kBqvapNYZS4xYIWtJ2LcqHARCrEv2UkYd95O-ikxJpggNjyNzhFhLl_WGzFB7mRG8DEHq_AMOsqTBuSOXg4yYPu79O_/w400-h231/qq.jpg" width="400" /></a></div><div><br /></div><div style="text-align: center;">(A link allowing a download of the entire patent can be found on <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120824075311/http://www.doombuggies.com/secrets_load.php" target="_blank">this page</a>.)</div><p style="text-align: left;">But they didn't do it. Why not? I have no idea. It wouldn't have cost much, and the positive results were meticulously worked out in the patent. The only thing I can think of is the confident belief that few people look at the busts long enough for the effect to fail. So why bother?</p><p style="text-align: left;">It's true enough that first-time visitors are going to stop looking at the busts and start looking into the room they are beginning to enter as they round the bend, well before Lucretia's nose gets pinched, but still, why not fix this thing for those of us who are <i>not</i> new to the ride but know it well and like to examine these details more carefully?</p><p style="text-align: left;">While they were at it, the Imagineers came up with two more ideas on the same patent application, ideas made possible by the new technology available. One of them revived the Gracey-Crump experiment of projecting animation onto the convex side of the follow-you busts while still viewing it from the concave side (i.e., having <i>projectors</i> inside the wall rather than a simple light bulb). That way they could add moving eyes and some limited animation to the mouths and eyebrows for Lucretia and her consort. The Imagineers even wanted to add audio, so that the busts would talk! This idea too came to nothing. My guess is that it either didn't look as good as they thought it would, or else they didn't want that much overtly ghostly manifestation so early in the ride. It <i>does</i> get uncomfortably close to violating the iron-clad "<b><span style="color: #ea9999;">no ghosts shall be visible before Leota</span></b>" rule, so yeah, I'm glad they didn't do this.</p><p style="text-align: left;">The third idea was to let guests pose for a photo somewhere (after the ride?), and print the photo on a sheet of thin plastic, which would then be heated and vacuformed over a generic face, and then trimmed, giving you a life-size mask imprinted with your face on it that you could use to make a Lucretia effect of your own, featuring your own face! Again, it never happened. Perhaps it didn't look as good as they hoped. Really, how would you find a face mold that worked for everybody, even roughly? Nowadays, of course, they could have a couple of dozen face molds, and the camera could include simple facial recognition software that would automatically select the face mold closest to the guest and rotate the appropriate mold into position for the vacuforming process. I wonder, however, whether the whole thing was rejected not because of technical shortcomings but because it essentially gives away the secret of one of the best and simplest illusions in the Mansion.</p><p style="text-align: center;">Still, one must admit that it would've been a pretty cool souvenir.</p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjAcJ8HKbjq4CaYv9GRUsYHiU3xNVSHy9CHTTc4cnTyf_tzoK5GVgFsjntMNET6m_czI7Y-WX3vwAfjz0Xk3FdhPeXiYYYgc1oAKgnk66uQnsswA5fT7JEudKpHaxIryv64Yjld2HENHp9r/s1772/patent+1a.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="1212" data-original-width="1772" height="438" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjAcJ8HKbjq4CaYv9GRUsYHiU3xNVSHy9CHTTc4cnTyf_tzoK5GVgFsjntMNET6m_czI7Y-WX3vwAfjz0Xk3FdhPeXiYYYgc1oAKgnk66uQnsswA5fT7JEudKpHaxIryv64Yjld2HENHp9r/w640-h438/patent+1a.jpg" width="640" /></a></div><div><br /></div><br /><p style="text-align: left;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(182, 215, 168); color: #b6d7a8; font-size: large; text-align: justify;">Leota in the 1980s and 1990s</span></p><p style="text-align: justify;">As Rolly's account makes clear, the Lucretia effect and the Leota effect were created more or less simultaneously. Here again is a sketch from Yale's notebooks that clearly shows the Leota effect:</p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgNL0ZFy3wz0vXA1a9CJbDiwuLZTxzuWsmJKe_YkbLrXlX3DGY2ohvgpguU9IN_Gc5dEzmiumdYkUXQTRexE3-Trlskyi4YOdRL211FC0d7vOoZvTYSXk1vXGD_c0rdFVIrErsbY6SLPncY/s678/yale+leota+effect.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="350" data-original-width="678" height="330" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgNL0ZFy3wz0vXA1a9CJbDiwuLZTxzuWsmJKe_YkbLrXlX3DGY2ohvgpguU9IN_Gc5dEzmiumdYkUXQTRexE3-Trlskyi4YOdRL211FC0d7vOoZvTYSXk1vXGD_c0rdFVIrErsbY6SLPncY/w640-h330/yale+leota+effect.jpg" width="640" /></a></div><p style="text-align: left;">But right next to it is a sketch proving that they were also experimenting with projecting a face onto the <i>concave</i> side of the mask, actually foreshadowing the "interior projection" method which eventually came into use for Madame Leota.</p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhkdpSbMmWZGPnb8JC3OgfhmhKsXpqBP6nJSu6dQuA2StpGsuApWpmIMcs9s3h9wh2KDR2Z_pVZFnbBWHfO5TtTHwmcX0_AWPnLtSGspGF5mMOHGdfOIQsYY4Orb9lk6YArd_yDu2JF39r2/s616/yale+back+lucretia.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="412" data-original-width="616" height="428" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhkdpSbMmWZGPnb8JC3OgfhmhKsXpqBP6nJSu6dQuA2StpGsuApWpmIMcs9s3h9wh2KDR2Z_pVZFnbBWHfO5TtTHwmcX0_AWPnLtSGspGF5mMOHGdfOIQsYY4Orb9lk6YArd_yDu2JF39r2/w640-h428/yale+back+lucretia.jpg" width="640" /></a></div><div><br /></div><p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="text-align: left;">By the late 1980s, new technology enabled the Imagineers to fix an old problem with the Leota effect. More radically, it made it possible to introduce a method of presentation similar to Yale and Rolly's experimental idea.</span></p><p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="text-align: left;">The old 16mm film loop cartridges were replaced with a captured image on laser disc. The loops used to break every few months and needed continual replacing. That's why so many film strips (usually incomplete) show up in the collector's market. It's actually pretty amazing that they lasted as well as they did, running upwards of 16 hours a day. The bin-loop system operated in controlled, dust-free cabinets, which not only increased durability, but reduced noise.</span></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;">Anyway, concurrent with the laser disc came improved fiber optic technology, leading to the first attempt at an interior projection for Leota. (A link allowing the download of this entire patent can be found on <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20121022061845/http://www.doombuggies.com/secrets_seance.php" target="_blank">this page</a>.)</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgFjE7opKUXHio9WnnlQOoBCB7C9Su0wAcLx9WWmXpYLVxcbbLFu_XeGqnviJGfHepLjx9PME_5zn66MndifZ_PpCqMHCSyZgf0Z5dNQBcITxM-9P9yE8LvBQ-Rb4HwqW-wtgj5PsmO5VIp/s1772/patent+2.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="1772" data-original-width="1212" height="640" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgFjE7opKUXHio9WnnlQOoBCB7C9Su0wAcLx9WWmXpYLVxcbbLFu_XeGqnviJGfHepLjx9PME_5zn66MndifZ_PpCqMHCSyZgf0Z5dNQBcITxM-9P9yE8LvBQ-Rb4HwqW-wtgj5PsmO5VIp/w438-h640/patent+2.jpg" width="438" /></a></div><br /><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiXInCadvpB0GDoHWj9W0eIygoqg82qarUYhmAq3IDUu6NZfXGuLFliIqNQ7R7KCcwYkiMxrg36yg3BlstUbU3SePtv7ZrR2kzNNbDMPbRt62WJ-rXTK7milJaNWGB04Box0AkWLqGJD-60/s870/interior+one.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="870" data-original-width="627" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiXInCadvpB0GDoHWj9W0eIygoqg82qarUYhmAq3IDUu6NZfXGuLFliIqNQ7R7KCcwYkiMxrg36yg3BlstUbU3SePtv7ZrR2kzNNbDMPbRt62WJ-rXTK7milJaNWGB04Box0AkWLqGJD-60/s16000/interior+one.jpg" /></a></div><table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"><tbody><tr><td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"></td></tr></tbody></table><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;">That first-generation interior-projected Leota debuted in the early 1990s and gave her kind of a "moon"</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"> face, not as bright or sharp as the old method and more distorted. Still, this version lasted until 2001.</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjm6sPnfjDAPSMudUBKcNZMU-okLOKLK7h4hAM7IajJX7a-O__kra258M2nRLnGkKJlSy04xJMdMeXKcfy74tM8atuwRI_1G2w8IyC5_z3XMlCanbD1PVKBfm83MxtejwiwjQGtY3PVOtKg/s322/seance+3.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="322" data-original-width="275" height="640" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjm6sPnfjDAPSMudUBKcNZMU-okLOKLK7h4hAM7IajJX7a-O__kra258M2nRLnGkKJlSy04xJMdMeXKcfy74tM8atuwRI_1G2w8IyC5_z3XMlCanbD1PVKBfm83MxtejwiwjQGtY3PVOtKg/w546-h640/seance+3.jpg" width="546" /></a></div><br /><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;">You can get a pretty good look at her in this clip from a 1997 Discovery Channel special (with Tony Baxter):</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><iframe allowfullscreen='allowfullscreen' webkitallowfullscreen='webkitallowfullscreen' mozallowfullscreen='mozallowfullscreen' width='320' height='266' src='https://www.blogger.com/video.g?token=AD6v5dxOnRcNIs00mFkNffZ3QpwZ5gmDvG4ptazKQnRXCMyFMj7kr7J-Y91PgJvgje-Zp6wt-wXUw8a5FImKwyPhjw' class='b-hbp-video b-uploaded' frameborder='0'></iframe></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;">Again, all of this history is pretty well known. What is less noticed is the fact that the interior-projection Leota enabled the Imagineers to reach back and realize original proposals for the Séance Circle that were impossible in 1969.</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;">As initially conceived, the carpet under Leota was supposed to be animated with rippling and flapping, and the table with Leota's ball on it was naturally expected to wobble around accordingly. You can see this on one of the effects blueprints, which shows the carpet undulating:</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhycHWY7kiXBhcjqIOrdDY5LDj0U49OfzrqrOu1iFKbXTpWwtaUl86QCue7oAQaKkqpdoL7ivQ_gMAZMF0Nh2GcFYxi7gqPtJOgnBqLQnTbUzJUvNbXu3Wt9TeYXct7fx8McHZvqPxv6nBe/s540/seance+1.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="456" data-original-width="540" height="540" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhycHWY7kiXBhcjqIOrdDY5LDj0U49OfzrqrOu1iFKbXTpWwtaUl86QCue7oAQaKkqpdoL7ivQ_gMAZMF0Nh2GcFYxi7gqPtJOgnBqLQnTbUzJUvNbXu3Wt9TeYXct7fx8McHZvqPxv6nBe/w640-h540/seance+1.jpg" width="640" /></a></div><br /><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;">You can also see the concept in Collin Campbell's artwork for the "Story and Song" album:</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhTkD9XqpziZ6vsBGfwbDzs7TuyossBMFyYozJiu3pXcfZGvTx38zdIPrHc16bQodDl7Vl2pG78Zst4T4jnMctaJjU4EQx4mWpDjBwY-r-UuJEX97899B27ocKGb6wDlkbiuCWW1rHIGHYN/s2400/leota+campbell+best.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="2400" data-original-width="2400" height="640" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhTkD9XqpziZ6vsBGfwbDzs7TuyossBMFyYozJiu3pXcfZGvTx38zdIPrHc16bQodDl7Vl2pG78Zst4T4jnMctaJjU4EQx4mWpDjBwY-r-UuJEX97899B27ocKGb6wDlkbiuCWW1rHIGHYN/w640-h640/leota+campbell+best.jpg" width="640" /></a></div><div><br /></div>Why didn't they do this? Well, Imagineers like Marc Davis had a tendency to come up with cool ideas and then deliver them to Yale Gracey without the faintest idea how to realize the effects. That was Yale's job. Usually he succeeded, but sometimes he was stumped. A good example is the See-Saw royal pair in the graveyard. They are supposed to disappear as they go down, but Yale apparently couldn't come up with a way to do that, so it didn't happen.<div><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgTbkQ-EqBSsj4w9ySDLki7Hw8wPEB_yJ-2vzKkCaQt6d9pjAnk70P73WaAmPiopbVjfI3TjJ3AiairkEUul20OnRo_FALOtptPhJ-5nAnVu-i2Btmh2YEci8Rn4EQ7r9uqXCP6Zdtpi5UX/s785/concept+copy.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="598" data-original-width="785" height="488" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgTbkQ-EqBSsj4w9ySDLki7Hw8wPEB_yJ-2vzKkCaQt6d9pjAnk70P73WaAmPiopbVjfI3TjJ3AiairkEUul20OnRo_FALOtptPhJ-5nAnVu-i2Btmh2YEci8Rn4EQ7r9uqXCP6Zdtpi5UX/w640-h488/concept+copy.jpg" width="640" /></a></div><br /><div>One suspects that the wild scene you see in Campbell's artwork came to grief over the fact that Leota had to be absolutely stationary if you were going to project a face onto her. They somewhat compensated by making the carpet at least look like it was hovering in midair, although few visitors notice this and just assume the "floor" must be very dark. (And we've all heard the story about the guy who hopped the rail to get to Leota, only to fall about 10 feet and break his leg. That's when the safety screens went in.)<br /><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEi9zZL3KJFqZv6q_y6AhJvnQtQ5nlUygMptpi4ypng9UWa26RdHTs7D5ER8BZpdqjTDLeH1M1sYc0eJgwoKyMWe_gJuvCManyaYFZhClatfppj_K8PhpafdX54YHMr0XpMdw7mdJ1OcDrXJ/s1024/seance+rm+safety+screen+Mick2005_2006154+copy.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="768" data-original-width="1024" height="480" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEi9zZL3KJFqZv6q_y6AhJvnQtQ5nlUygMptpi4ypng9UWa26RdHTs7D5ER8BZpdqjTDLeH1M1sYc0eJgwoKyMWe_gJuvCManyaYFZhClatfppj_K8PhpafdX54YHMr0XpMdw7mdJ1OcDrXJ/w640-h480/seance+rm+safety+screen+Mick2005_2006154+copy.jpg" width="640" /></a></div><div><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEikwDFrQkn0N4lv4oGe2aooB8aPwKp3lE9bajrfhtyUZL-dFZ3edAwnZ3_UUf26BoK8EKlZugSZFd9mUmARcqRJ3HU_0HfCmrPxJFuJjszKK-Bx0Y0-PDS9ak5_KHuumuQNh-gbV2ZGl3Rq/s508/seance+2.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="355" data-original-width="508" height="448" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEikwDFrQkn0N4lv4oGe2aooB8aPwKp3lE9bajrfhtyUZL-dFZ3edAwnZ3_UUf26BoK8EKlZugSZFd9mUmARcqRJ3HU_0HfCmrPxJFuJjszKK-Bx0Y0-PDS9ak5_KHuumuQNh-gbV2ZGl3Rq/w640-h448/seance+2.jpg" width="640" /></a></div><br /><div>Anyway, with an interior-projected Leota, it became possible to incorporate at least some of the animation that couldn't be done before. It was all so subtle that many riders never noticed it, and as the years go by all memory of it threatens to dissolve into the land of the long forgotten. Be it here known to one and all that the table <i>gently pitched and rolled </i>during the decade or so in which the first-generation interior-projected Mdm L operated. Check these video clips from 1997 and 1999:</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><iframe allowfullscreen='allowfullscreen' webkitallowfullscreen='webkitallowfullscreen' mozallowfullscreen='mozallowfullscreen' width='320' height='266' src='https://www.blogger.com/video.g?token=AD6v5dyXqrYamExGNUceoOoarZ9wdNLtvg7_oiImjLuzv4blbNpS0ENrJf8M6FZlD6Wl7YoHbw_P6DWjk4F14UvgUA' class='b-hbp-video b-uploaded' frameborder='0'></iframe></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><iframe allowfullscreen='allowfullscreen' webkitallowfullscreen='webkitallowfullscreen' mozallowfullscreen='mozallowfullscreen' width='320' height='266' src='https://www.blogger.com/video.g?token=AD6v5dxVst0KKAVpgYQvZHFLmnQvLbEgmYLB_nuMTOW8h0IVxl1rV60GM-qlp-VE1f7N47CZNkjq2cl0KqJMioDKIA' class='b-hbp-video b-uploaded' frameborder='0'></iframe></div><div style="text-align: center;">When they returned to the original, better looking, front-projected "Leota effect"</div><div style="text-align: center;">in October of 2001, the moving table effect also came to an end, sad to say.</div><div style="text-align: justify;"><br /></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><br /></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #b6d7a8; font-size: large;">The 21st Century: Floating Leota</span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"> </div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: justify;">Lucretia is exactly where we left her, unchanged since she left Yale Gracey's hands, so we're done there, but for the sake of completeness, a few words should probably be said about Leota's final chapters.</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: justify;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiTtW9I7HH4CkcaBNv1MspqUC1myuzP7qi6qQqp8NntuBY0NLjTHdJA3jq9GIS7Rwj3Py6j6LNI6oLmIHMXEhBvgQXFW8ompUqhrvn91KbSk-4iHaHlaEd7NCzdhhMQC1xWyMjF3ipU8_9u/s824/float+leota+concept+art.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="735" data-original-width="824" height="570" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiTtW9I7HH4CkcaBNv1MspqUC1myuzP7qi6qQqp8NntuBY0NLjTHdJA3jq9GIS7Rwj3Py6j6LNI6oLmIHMXEhBvgQXFW8ompUqhrvn91KbSk-4iHaHlaEd7NCzdhhMQC1xWyMjF3ipU8_9u/w640-h570/float+leota+concept+art.jpg" width="640" /></a></div><div style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #fce5cd; font-size: x-small;">Floating Leota concept art by Chris Turner</span></div></div><div><br /></div><div>The first attempt at floating Leota debuted in 2005 at Disneyland, and for the life of me, I can't imagine what they were thinking. It was essentially a projected image aligned with the moving target of the Leota ball. However sophisticated the equipment involved, anyone with half a brain should have been able to tell that it wouldn't work. It requires pinpoint precision, and any moving, physical, mechanical object is going to be subject to friction, wear, stretching (in the support lines), and all the vagaries of electric motors. <i>Of course</i> they couldn't keep the damn thing in acceptably accurate alignment. By 2007 they had abandoned this method for a new interior-projection system that really worked. Unlike its 1990s predecessor, the face really looks good, thanks to much improved technology. WDW got this one first, then DL.</div><div><br /></div><div>One could argue that floating Leota is another attempt to bring back the more fully animated room that the Séance Circle was intended to be, but personally, I prefer the original, stationary Leota on the table, for thematic reasons. She is the central point of reference in the entire ride. She should be a fixed star in the midst of this mad and whirling firmament. But that's <a href="https://longforgottenhauntedmansion.blogspot.com/2015/05/happy-haunts-materialize-hat-box-ghost.html" target="_blank">another post</a>:<ul style="caret-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); color: #cccccc; font-family: "Trebuchet MS", Trebuchet, Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><li><span style="color: #d5a6bd;">Floating Leota (2005) has never gotten anything more than a lukewarm response. The change felt, and still feels, wrong. Here's where treating this thing like a work of art proves its worth. What had always been the calm, stabilizing center of the ride was now simply another floating object. Everything about her—her chronological placement in the show flow, her pivotal position in the three-act play that is the Haunted Mansion, even her physical location in the room—announces that "here is the center, the eye of the storm." Nothing was gained and something was lost when she took flight.</span></li></ul><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: justify;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><span style="color: #ffe599; font-size: x-large;">*******************</span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #ff00fe; font-size: large; text-align: left;"><br /></span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #ff00fe; font-size: large; text-align: left;">*</span><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravity_hill" style="text-align: left;" target="_blank">Gravity Hill</a><span style="text-align: left;"> is a common label for the </span><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_gravity_hills" style="text-align: left;" target="_blank">hundreds</a><span style="text-align: left;"> of similar attractions around the world that use crazily-built shacks and tilted landscaping to produce a variety of optical illusions that seem to defy gravity and distort dimensions. The "Magnetic Mystery Mine" on WDW's Tom Sawyer Island, designed by Marc Davis, is a gravity hill attraction. Davis also drew up plans for a Fun House for the Fort Wilderness Campground that included gravity hill illusions, but that one was never realized. </span><span style="text-align: left;"><span style="text-align: left;">Knott's had a very good one for many years called "The Haunted Shack." </span></span></div></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="text-align: left;"><br /></span></div>HBG2http://www.blogger.com/profile/05073387557562504315noreply@blogger.com19tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4444762441887107389.post-26091883718076212282021-07-28T19:11:00.015-07:002023-06-14T19:45:28.765-07:00The "Enhauntsments" of 2021<p><span style="color: #6aa84f;">Aug 12, 2021: Check out additional observations by Foxxy and others at the end of the post.</span></p><p><span style="color: #6aa84f;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(106, 168, 79);">Mar 29, 2022: New note about the Conservatory.</span></span></p><p>Since the rather colorless term "enhancements" seems to be the only collective noun Disney is using for the changes and additions to the Anaheim Mansion this year, I have made bold to tweak it a bit and will henceforth use "<b>Enhauntsments</b>" as the official Long-Forgotten designation, inspired in part by the "Rehaunting" of the WDW HM in 2007. Now that I have visited the park in person, I'm in a position to give an eyewitness report.</p><p>When there is a major set of revisions or additions to a Haunted Mansion, I have found from previous experience that it's good to have a catalogue like this laying around somewhere, since it won't be many years before the memories will grow murky, and it will all start <i>mooshing together</i> in our overtaxed brains, and we won't remember exactly when this or that particular thing happened. </p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjIGYqAd2FzOWjMbrBz-uOfMakhT4tJJ9LxEWcuhQzqfNB6fv608jZJkaL7L44xBY9WbgZ7Sspq55zKXLv4ADdH944ih73jXROoB7Y0q5NNoCCUfgmz7pmLB8RPpmeI6ehjXMSWMJrdr1AV/s3204/IMG_0468.heic" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="2239" data-original-width="3204" height="448" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjIGYqAd2FzOWjMbrBz-uOfMakhT4tJJ9LxEWcuhQzqfNB6fv608jZJkaL7L44xBY9WbgZ7Sspq55zKXLv4ADdH944ih73jXROoB7Y0q5NNoCCUfgmz7pmLB8RPpmeI6ehjXMSWMJrdr1AV/w640-h448/IMG_0468.heic" width="640" /></a></div><p>I strongly suspect that most or all of these enhauntsments were intended as part of the Mansion's 50th anniversary in August of 2019. None of them were there, of course, but it seems like Disney gives themselves a generous, two year window for such things, so that anything that happens a year before<i> or after</i> the actual day being celebrated counts as being "on time." (Try using that same logic with your significant other's birthday and see how well it works.) Anyway, with COVID adding almost a whole additional year to the debut of the enhauntsments, it became absurd to try to connect any of them with the Golden Anny, so they didn't try. That's my theory, anyway.</p><p>Be that as it may, for posterity's sake, here's a catalogue of the changes made, at least as far as I've been able to glean from the many sources out there along with my own first-hand observations. If I've missed anything, leave a comment.</p><p><br /></p><p style="text-align: left;"><span style="color: #93c47d; font-size: large;">(1) Our Girl April!</span></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjqGqLK80_OjkR6ZPz8zzaxLkXfFEHG7wWcfYF4_oACDBsBIXpCCcX4dq5wqewlPqHRAg2paIipC9pa0Hpi3J4NzDSqz2R1mkXcgwUjnr9FdDf5bn-WUwiPuvyLt-w1G1SOWfvDcz_Nn7ri/s831/+++APRIL+CLOSE-UP+copy.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="831" data-original-width="704" height="640" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjqGqLK80_OjkR6ZPz8zzaxLkXfFEHG7wWcfYF4_oACDBsBIXpCCcX4dq5wqewlPqHRAg2paIipC9pa0Hpi3J4NzDSqz2R1mkXcgwUjnr9FdDf5bn-WUwiPuvyLt-w1G1SOWfvDcz_Nn7ri/w542-h640/+++APRIL+CLOSE-UP+copy.jpg" width="542" /></a></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><span style="color: #9fc5e8;">©DISNEY</span></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjfk87DQh8sWGksXGeIf-451eN2MEpHUq-3xMaYnbVlTtJMeZCEK1TbHYsz3czp-JcB7PP3EoGqmuKrboNfPTllKVu_j2n6bZPT06lMR__keHoFfnlvkYxCSK3d7xfZi1rZfyvxGvMazRkc/s4032/IMG_0998.jpeg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="3024" data-original-width="4032" height="480" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjfk87DQh8sWGksXGeIf-451eN2MEpHUq-3xMaYnbVlTtJMeZCEK1TbHYsz3czp-JcB7PP3EoGqmuKrboNfPTllKVu_j2n6bZPT06lMR__keHoFfnlvkYxCSK3d7xfZi1rZfyvxGvMazRkc/w640-h480/IMG_0998.jpeg" width="640" /></a></div><p style="text-align: left;">First and foremost, of course, is the return of April-December. As pointed out in <a href="https://longforgottenhauntedmansion.blogspot.com/2021/04/our-elevendieth-year-and-other.html" target="_blank">our April post</a>, she's been restored beautifully, and the place they have created for her is perfect. She's done in a six-stage, morphing form, which is a new presentation for her but utterly authentic and true to the original Imagineers' intentions, as we now know. Zero complaints! A+. I don't like to brag (well, yes I do, some), but I had been saying for a long time that the obvious thing to do for the 50th Anny was to bring back April, and obviously someone else thought the same, because they did.</p><p style="text-align: left;"><br /></p><p style="text-align: left;"><span style="color: #93c47d; font-size: large;">(2) April's Hallway</span></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEibcZ7f7iKP-9l6GIBGws7Wvyo8hD0a3Qo5pEXvwgTFEwovEACx4Olu8TD9STfp1m9F4Ao1PaKQH9DKs-P47bynBs6Y-kHeim9t2XAg_eRTcOLUokl11t8VmF6f646USQSlcn2KPHFdy-E1/s844/newdoor.png" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="844" data-original-width="524" height="640" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEibcZ7f7iKP-9l6GIBGws7Wvyo8hD0a3Qo5pEXvwgTFEwovEACx4Olu8TD9STfp1m9F4Ao1PaKQH9DKs-P47bynBs6Y-kHeim9t2XAg_eRTcOLUokl11t8VmF6f646USQSlcn2KPHFdy-E1/w398-h640/newdoor.png" width="398" /></a></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiZ17XK0jxTBk4ZeQdbTD4agpYJDFOq13BeCJDah6K0Hk0S0vik91qwq_eEkEc4aLuKZixM9fO8sDRTYcDj66HWc2bP2LkJUB1Bzk2F1yB-4R1DTVNycpNpSL-ARq8mGg0tbMssNNN2vYf3/s686/Screen+Shot+2021-07-29+at+4.52.05+PM.png" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="686" data-original-width="534" height="400" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiZ17XK0jxTBk4ZeQdbTD4agpYJDFOq13BeCJDah6K0Hk0S0vik91qwq_eEkEc4aLuKZixM9fO8sDRTYcDj66HWc2bP2LkJUB1Bzk2F1yB-4R1DTVNycpNpSL-ARq8mGg0tbMssNNN2vYf3/w311-h400/Screen+Shot+2021-07-29+at+4.52.05+PM.png" width="311" /></a></div><p style="text-align: left;">I'll lump into one bullet point all the enhauntsments that accompany April in her immediate environment, including (1) the wallpaper, the wainscoting, and the new candle lighting along one wall of what was previously the right side of the limbo-load area as you enter, plus the visually pleasing metal screen to the left of the guests; (2) a new door beside April in the classic style seen elsewhere in the house, with a moving blue light in its transom, indicating a ghostly presence; and (3) a one-eyed cat statuette.</p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiaiDt7-ZCjzBsRi6sl_HtsPRMZkUHT6jVUdil_blXXeO1ABHCmas0mza2KMGPjciI1lmchDiFy0cHynbSBYQDSwVXmZ9hjHJycZT3mFIxmVVQWkffV7y0BuJS61CHxYIFYrYvJf2wIzuXD/s4032/IMG_0999.jpeg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="3024" data-original-width="4032" height="480" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiaiDt7-ZCjzBsRi6sl_HtsPRMZkUHT6jVUdil_blXXeO1ABHCmas0mza2KMGPjciI1lmchDiFy0cHynbSBYQDSwVXmZ9hjHJycZT3mFIxmVVQWkffV7y0BuJS61CHxYIFYrYvJf2wIzuXD/w640-h480/IMG_0999.jpeg" width="640" /></a></div><p style="text-align: left;">As noted before, the urns that used to be in this area have not been tossed out but are now congregated over by the staircase where the doom buggies come down.</p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgFtHXDNLp7m2e6NBeJTJmtAgs9zx5I2t1iFfF3Jzz6eWpkWjuNpl4MIQflLtx8VXX_HswsPhlnFNQ7h-jfkXm7mq3euDqfZsxz6EHpuc7WckcnPS-8WEzKdRZ8Tb6GJixW8KxpiDsGwiBo/s771/urns.png" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="470" data-original-width="771" height="390" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgFtHXDNLp7m2e6NBeJTJmtAgs9zx5I2t1iFfF3Jzz6eWpkWjuNpl4MIQflLtx8VXX_HswsPhlnFNQ7h-jfkXm7mq3euDqfZsxz6EHpuc7WckcnPS-8WEzKdRZ8Tb6GJixW8KxpiDsGwiBo/w640-h390/urns.png" width="640" /></a></div><p style="text-align: left;">The cat is recognized as a shout-out to an old, unused concept of X Atencio. <a href="https://longforgottenhauntedmansion.blogspot.com/2010/07/ravens-and-one-eyed-black-cats-oh-my.html" target="_blank">You will recall</a> that a one-eyed black cat gradually asserts its demonic presence throughout the ride and serves as your host (or co-host). The connection seems valid, since the new cat has a single red, gleaming eye, as did X's cat, but I hasten to note (and not without appreciation) that this particular enhauntsment offers only a subtle or partial hint to the old concept, not the sort of blatant, elbow-in-your-ribs "tribute!" that characterizes <a href="https://longforgottenhauntedmansion.blogspot.com/2010/07/ravens-and-one-eyed-black-cats-oh-my.html" target="_blank">PLQ</a>. The cat is <i>white</i>, after all, not black.</p><p style="text-align: center;">As others have noted, the statuette is actually an off-the-shelf, commercially available item.</p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhGc4Z_o97zN0X9BUEiDRR9w4gquytvvtFlWISKWhf94Pq9wCeuJRTgs1Icn_EwcqqNfViGpBjDSaGl2GbXRZ76Rs7m-P7Q-kD2wg5qg5sNrSPb1GVAQpbj8C2gdK5r_bgJBphlssch-kj1/s512/Screen+Shot+2021-07-28+at+3.17.16+PM.png" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="512" data-original-width="511" height="640" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhGc4Z_o97zN0X9BUEiDRR9w4gquytvvtFlWISKWhf94Pq9wCeuJRTgs1Icn_EwcqqNfViGpBjDSaGl2GbXRZ76Rs7m-P7Q-kD2wg5qg5sNrSPb1GVAQpbj8C2gdK5r_bgJBphlssch-kj1/w638-h640/Screen+Shot+2021-07-28+at+3.17.16+PM.png" width="638" /></a></div><p style="text-align: center;">It's really only there as an intriguing object to look at briefly as you pass, which is fine with me.</p><p style="text-align: center;"><br /></p><p style="text-align: left;"><span style="color: #93c47d; font-size: large;">(3) Enhauntsments to the Portrait Hall</span></p><p style="text-align: left;">A few related changes have been made in the Portrait Hall. The <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOyrWDkPgsc" target="_blank">official video</a> makes a point of this, calling attention to the new, lighter color of the heavy drapes around the windows, and I gave them a good hard look when I was there, as no photography can do justice to such things. They looked fine to me. Here's the old on the left, the new on the right.</p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhQ1ax8hLh8WHhSYl8g8Bma61rVxGNj7S5JvM7uXXFCUtW3eztjn5kG72hM1zdgD8Jx53ixa4Yl1m2ZB7F6uin8LnbMDvzKIg1c2gaCDomDURpxWH2DZTXoqehbcgy23mj8Y1fhkl-CAYi-/s815/Screen+Shot+2021-05-20+at+10.59.38+AM.png" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="490" data-original-width="815" height="384" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhQ1ax8hLh8WHhSYl8g8Bma61rVxGNj7S5JvM7uXXFCUtW3eztjn5kG72hM1zdgD8Jx53ixa4Yl1m2ZB7F6uin8LnbMDvzKIg1c2gaCDomDURpxWH2DZTXoqehbcgy23mj8Y1fhkl-CAYi-/w640-h384/Screen+Shot+2021-05-20+at+10.59.38+AM.png" width="640" /></a></div><div><br /></div><div style="text-align: center;">Also, the wallpaper was redone so as to match the wallpaper behind April around the corner, which is sensible...</div><div><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjF-XdelTBn9HN6JkVQuLpGhOuXXRyl4IYUOoASQ3O3atUbfaZlweMlJJ60OHOX7Fp9uNg36xfUHf_Dk600phJkgR4KdgdQIGShyphenhyphen4SZ38b3f9m3x775B7d0EEpiknmmZ3utfZtU2kCaJjxT/s960/hallll.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="640" data-original-width="960" height="426" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjF-XdelTBn9HN6JkVQuLpGhOuXXRyl4IYUOoASQ3O3atUbfaZlweMlJJ60OHOX7Fp9uNg36xfUHf_Dk600phJkgR4KdgdQIGShyphenhyphen4SZ38b3f9m3x775B7d0EEpiknmmZ3utfZtU2kCaJjxT/w640-h426/hallll.jpg" width="640" /></a></div><div><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEheTyU5KUPCODmKzi7CY2EgUTrnRap-H6fCHwgwcuoJGSPNfKilfHekSKgrKRHzZai9a05EHqdagJQZAFKJCAaXXDEAQf_EebpH6mZT1rd-6e28FlVNDdsSHteesQfhbTCSAFBDUzqq1Lyj/s960/newph.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="720" data-original-width="960" height="480" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEheTyU5KUPCODmKzi7CY2EgUTrnRap-H6fCHwgwcuoJGSPNfKilfHekSKgrKRHzZai9a05EHqdagJQZAFKJCAaXXDEAQf_EebpH6mZT1rd-6e28FlVNDdsSHteesQfhbTCSAFBDUzqq1Lyj/w640-h480/newph.jpg" width="640" /></a></div><div><br /></div>...but I deeply regret the loss of the original paper, which offered so many opportunities for finding <a href="https://longforgottenhauntedmansion.blogspot.com/2012/05/walls-and-stares.html" target="_blank">hidden faces</a>. You <i>can</i> find a face or two in the new paper, but let's face it: the new stuff isn't nearly as rich an environment for that sort of thing.<div><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiuBdGDpyC9PZ1NX-fYyxhXE-bv-hYl3F7xLulBKn496-5licXGkDFPTyVH0HHgmQfDKOQ8yf0vDIVp1EbizkAPN_ZVZYACqueOFw7a4VOueZDXDVggIj50ehHHbTI_p1un2uk6Q3py_PEg/s395/Screen+Shot+2021-06-29+at+5.02.54+PM.png" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="395" data-original-width="352" height="400" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiuBdGDpyC9PZ1NX-fYyxhXE-bv-hYl3F7xLulBKn496-5licXGkDFPTyVH0HHgmQfDKOQ8yf0vDIVp1EbizkAPN_ZVZYACqueOFw7a4VOueZDXDVggIj50ehHHbTI_p1un2uk6Q3py_PEg/w356-h400/Screen+Shot+2021-06-29+at+5.02.54+PM.png" width="356" /></a></div><br /><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiolBmN-_S4EydamibXuwcyIXaMwP33Jip0oB6-yE-duyIex81MJ0Tt8OIhdSH5vrLKYnxMCjlxwyxE8smwDzGVHzcB-sUzfnS3li7Tx2iagbj0Ds2qR6tH0UMuf6pqPtT8un1LCaPAOcRc/s376/Screen+Shot+2021-07-27+at+2.20.56+PM.png" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="332" data-original-width="376" height="283" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiolBmN-_S4EydamibXuwcyIXaMwP33Jip0oB6-yE-duyIex81MJ0Tt8OIhdSH5vrLKYnxMCjlxwyxE8smwDzGVHzcB-sUzfnS3li7Tx2iagbj0Ds2qR6tH0UMuf6pqPtT8un1LCaPAOcRc/w320-h283/Screen+Shot+2021-07-27+at+2.20.56+PM.png" width="320" /></a></div><br /><div style="text-align: center;">Pity. Also, when I was there, the rain effect in the stormy windows was gone, and I dearly hope <i>that</i> isn't a permanent change.</div><div><br /></div><div><br /></div><div><span style="color: #93c47d; font-size: large;">(4) The Rolly Chair</span></div><div><p style="text-align: left;">At least that's what everyone seems to think it is. There's a new chair hanging around in the Séance Circle that is widely regarded as a tribute to the talking chair in Rolly Crump's unused "Museum of the Weird" artwork, but as far as I can see, their designs actually have very little in common.</p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgcwdFoeVnOO9IdXJYB8DJuEaWgzRAHPVnjxfuupUtsSowbFVRaV-2mliv00g_z0vdRoX0l8k3IFLqj3P73ARqcBszzdcvdBNRytv-xetwJ6eWzufJCRaBs-SczHxPJBXJwh_Eh1FWoctdV/s650/ssc.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="548" data-original-width="650" height="540" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgcwdFoeVnOO9IdXJYB8DJuEaWgzRAHPVnjxfuupUtsSowbFVRaV-2mliv00g_z0vdRoX0l8k3IFLqj3P73ARqcBszzdcvdBNRytv-xetwJ6eWzufJCRaBs-SczHxPJBXJwh_Eh1FWoctdV/w640-h540/ssc.jpg" width="640" /></a></div><br /><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiZJkh1T7Xhjgrl-66JAexYd7Mpl0k2Dj5sT7BlhI-ni7p8z3GX-_1RLHiinV0X3t1sFAW27vOp1rn3tR3lC27Dm14S3paiKBFRu1ScsGzdG5Y-SJRgsbNRftf1dPLzwOA4Bu_QgZQ2FF8s/s726/best2.png" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="726" data-original-width="618" height="400" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiZJkh1T7Xhjgrl-66JAexYd7Mpl0k2Dj5sT7BlhI-ni7p8z3GX-_1RLHiinV0X3t1sFAW27vOp1rn3tR3lC27Dm14S3paiKBFRu1ScsGzdG5Y-SJRgsbNRftf1dPLzwOA4Bu_QgZQ2FF8s/w340-h400/best2.png" width="340" /></a></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgocMyeOIOrvJKGbic5tQI0kYXi_uYD_TQtAbfQfMBYZa44E4iSHmgCRHzIZPEk53k-9DefjtQTDuAWtIL1i3n2Fl3WU3wLzj5M-vQIAkvvUMnz5PYyUxKFdbu_nwVf7a6huqZgPrsxhAWv/s637/chair+side.png" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="637" data-original-width="454" height="640" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgocMyeOIOrvJKGbic5tQI0kYXi_uYD_TQtAbfQfMBYZa44E4iSHmgCRHzIZPEk53k-9DefjtQTDuAWtIL1i3n2Fl3WU3wLzj5M-vQIAkvvUMnz5PYyUxKFdbu_nwVf7a6huqZgPrsxhAWv/w456-h640/chair+side.png" width="456" /></a></div><div style="text-align: left;"><br /></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span style="text-align: left;">The chair isn't animated in any way, and much of it is in deep shadow, so it's not even 100% certain that it has "eyes" (although that <i>does</i> seem likely). Very mysterious, this one. Which bothers me not at all . Hmm. More may be coming with the new chair, but for now, it's a curious addition to the ride.</span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span style="text-align: left;"><br /></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span style="text-align: left;"><span style="color: red;">UPDATE June 14, 2023</span>. The chair has been missing ever since Classic Mansion returned after the last HMH overlay. In other words, it didn't return. Why so is a mystery. But Brandon Hardy has made a significant discovery about it: it's an off-the-shelf item from Wayfair called a Deangelis Rattan wicker chair, and you can get one for yourself if you've got an extra $550 kicking around.</span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span style="text-align: left;"><br /></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg0LN_bQqAMZfWU9Iv6yfCX24dwYuNMzeHMLNg0KiD2Q6osygqaJh6N-YXPovvna-18gfZAkH09hsS90esHyfx_opUw_HgZhOZmJDSGl3ZurHfdDVPuWgV75sj62uqBA-ZTmf32u-8HEHzEEKAAnb45mulRnjrDiXQIvQ_51WLVvCYiHVHpcA93I4ucnA/s932/Screen%20Shot%202023-06-14%20at%207.28.52%20PM.png" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="818" data-original-width="932" height="562" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg0LN_bQqAMZfWU9Iv6yfCX24dwYuNMzeHMLNg0KiD2Q6osygqaJh6N-YXPovvna-18gfZAkH09hsS90esHyfx_opUw_HgZhOZmJDSGl3ZurHfdDVPuWgV75sj62uqBA-ZTmf32u-8HEHzEEKAAnb45mulRnjrDiXQIvQ_51WLVvCYiHVHpcA93I4ucnA/w640-h562/Screen%20Shot%202023-06-14%20at%207.28.52%20PM.png" width="640" /></a></div><br /><div style="text-align: center;">My Latin is a little shaky, but I think it's "The Rottenness of the Angels."</div></div><div style="text-align: center;"><span style="text-align: left;">Okay, a LOT shaky.</span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span style="text-align: left;"><br /></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhN1SyRqJrDipnn5sVxLmaXCS1YGHM-Ir0qYs7lcvM76xGftbfLtiQczRPOiI8tT67T5voMDYlSyFiAdsTtCHNCw9bqocR7xQ7cOMzvcUMNJSJx_s0HU1FMXVTSTMy7triii1omL_9BpDlPvxn7GLdoF1gbNq7nrFrG3VSABrZVtNKQCYkM8-amTZaprw/s684/Screen%20Shot%202023-06-14%20at%207.30.02%20PM.png" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="684" data-original-width="520" height="640" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhN1SyRqJrDipnn5sVxLmaXCS1YGHM-Ir0qYs7lcvM76xGftbfLtiQczRPOiI8tT67T5voMDYlSyFiAdsTtCHNCw9bqocR7xQ7cOMzvcUMNJSJx_s0HU1FMXVTSTMy7triii1omL_9BpDlPvxn7GLdoF1gbNq7nrFrG3VSABrZVtNKQCYkM8-amTZaprw/w486-h640/Screen%20Shot%202023-06-14%20at%207.30.02%20PM.png" width="486" /></a></div><div style="text-align: left;"><br /></div><div style="text-align: center;">In case you had any doubts...</div><div style="text-align: center;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgSWrPr2eHH2SjbWDwRP7MkU7iwjYfZ0JVW1Ew9MexkNq3zo9ryQDw4U8De056-BLSKik2m9C5QWCiFDrb91RxUpcNmTrEBjeyME6cvfkCaUDaUX-n2emwn1gw7-wHExwKFGZRiP-uSSY6TCycsETq-xR-h9JoqfnhWDrp5nrYPPTVZKumQOceSUb6_uA/s1025/1C05E42A-5E21-4E6F-821E-879E9DE3CFE3_1_105_c.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="1025" data-original-width="766" height="640" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgSWrPr2eHH2SjbWDwRP7MkU7iwjYfZ0JVW1Ew9MexkNq3zo9ryQDw4U8De056-BLSKik2m9C5QWCiFDrb91RxUpcNmTrEBjeyME6cvfkCaUDaUX-n2emwn1gw7-wHExwKFGZRiP-uSSY6TCycsETq-xR-h9JoqfnhWDrp5nrYPPTVZKumQOceSUb6_uA/w478-h640/1C05E42A-5E21-4E6F-821E-879E9DE3CFE3_1_105_c.jpg" width="478" /></a></div><div style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #9fc5e8;">Brandon Hardy</span></div><div style="text-align: center;"><br /></div><span style="text-align: left;"><br /></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span style="text-align: left;"><br /></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span style="text-align: left;"><span style="color: #93c47d; font-size: large;">(5) Spruced, Juiced, and Loosed</span></span></div></div><p style="text-align: left;">The ballroom dancers and the ghosts in the graveyard (and perhaps others) have been spruced up and are now much more visible. When I visited in 2019 for the 50th Anny, I was unhappy to see that the vague gray blobs to which time and ultraviolet lighting had reduced the ghosts in the graveyard had <i>not</i> been refurbed for the Mansion's golden anniversary that year, but I now suppose that there were plans to do so soon enough thereafter to count as being part of that year's celebration, as described earlier.</p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhFJUfjn6kHCPscMPz5oVe5dTncQ-DF1VNs4M0tcoiwiM9tKx_cgmAd4sWJ-Ua_xYi3p277t1iPBhs5Zerwmwn04-8RBKSoc6A6QZ8_q3OPbNGbu1Zt7nA9E3wSfI3th4DNbYbj3MnR2Nyu/s1280/matthew+bum+2.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="853" data-original-width="1280" height="426" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhFJUfjn6kHCPscMPz5oVe5dTncQ-DF1VNs4M0tcoiwiM9tKx_cgmAd4sWJ-Ua_xYi3p277t1iPBhs5Zerwmwn04-8RBKSoc6A6QZ8_q3OPbNGbu1Zt7nA9E3wSfI3th4DNbYbj3MnR2Nyu/w640-h426/matthew+bum+2.jpg" width="640" /></a></div><div style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #d5a6bd; font-size: x-small;">pic by Matthew Bumgardner</span></div><br /><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgQhxxqNNWZVy3beMQlYZt09XqigKtWvvoth0KfvcxcBWjvBMY_TatH12gnhxX9-bXHFSgICG0-mlEpXjHIq4roUgokI-tXGSEreQfjLtWi9YyQjpI6EzMRByYNfJ7Kaq3a6BmtHhymo8UG/s1766/matthew+bumgardner.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="1177" data-original-width="1766" height="426" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgQhxxqNNWZVy3beMQlYZt09XqigKtWvvoth0KfvcxcBWjvBMY_TatH12gnhxX9-bXHFSgICG0-mlEpXjHIq4roUgokI-tXGSEreQfjLtWi9YyQjpI6EzMRByYNfJ7Kaq3a6BmtHhymo8UG/w640-h426/matthew+bumgardner.jpg" width="640" /></a></div><div style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #d5a6bd;">pic by Matthew Bumgardner</span></div><p style="text-align: left;"><br /></p><p style="text-align: left;"><span style="color: #93c47d; font-size: large;">(6) Another Cat Statuette, and a Refreshed Garden</span></p><p style="text-align: left;">Yep, they've added not one but two kitty statues. The Disney video calls attention to the new cat in the birdbath out front.</p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgXZxZUQ1Fx7piM3jEkCQKzVMiAOU4AoWKpNfe3AadbBCybY6O0_NkDBxNlM9Stqv86vwRpD_5ItQ_J00Jhh-MjEutwJ5dEAklq5Nocxa42lK7DYqQK_WjbvFccKAQOS2im1odhsTa2vVg3/s1796/Screen+Shot+2021-07-28+at+4.21.06+PM.png" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="971" data-original-width="1796" height="216" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgXZxZUQ1Fx7piM3jEkCQKzVMiAOU4AoWKpNfe3AadbBCybY6O0_NkDBxNlM9Stqv86vwRpD_5ItQ_J00Jhh-MjEutwJ5dEAklq5Nocxa42lK7DYqQK_WjbvFccKAQOS2im1odhsTa2vVg3/w400-h216/Screen+Shot+2021-07-28+at+4.21.06+PM.png" width="400" /></a></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhpWoM09comuOpT6Ty60ljRROFNu6hTukXLhpcJRIMvLvzRaIwLfqYWmTn9-enBUNVLOI6_TkyjzoBwBk8kkZJ31LroFv4806lb-_2Uz5x88bq49hsCKNhda8ZTL_fuDyXxBH9U6Jo5Jr7i/s1440/2021+Laurie+Holt+Dickey+fb.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="1440" data-original-width="1440" height="640" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhpWoM09comuOpT6Ty60ljRROFNu6hTukXLhpcJRIMvLvzRaIwLfqYWmTn9-enBUNVLOI6_TkyjzoBwBk8kkZJ31LroFv4806lb-_2Uz5x88bq49hsCKNhda8ZTL_fuDyXxBH9U6Jo5Jr7i/w640-h640/2021+Laurie+Holt+Dickey+fb.jpg" width="640" /></a></div><div style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #9fc5e8; font-size: x-small;">pic by Laurie Holt Dickey</span></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: justify;"><span style="text-align: left;">(It's behind/beside the hearse, for those of you who have never noticed it.) That birdbath has been there, unmoved, since 1969, but it became a planter after only a few years and remained in such employ until this year. It's gratifying to the purists among us to see it restored to its original function. And with a macabre bit of statuary added for good measure, we are a happy crew.</span></div><p style="text-align: left;">The video also highlights the garden landscaping throughout the Pet Cemetery, but in all fairness, the horticulture department at Disneyland has ALWAYS done a great job everywhere, including here, with appropriate plants around the various fixtures, so that what you find there now is not <i>really</i> as big a deal as they make it out to be, but only a sprucing up of something that had not and never has been allowed to fall into ruin in the first place. But all of that just makes me happier that the horti guys are getting the kind of proper shout out they deserve, and yes, some of the garden work is indeed new.</p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiat_QtuRGmwOhja-nhEFWSLuLDV8e7o7Ai4jowOEskwrm4S5doHfFyaPbdbISCYzxjHC9yJJTzz2vpSpF_DU2ubft70tmOE1cz2kzEFv_0acVbo65TKBF9ldd66fUlN8M9e-f7hJts8Ntt/s900/image_48718.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="553" data-original-width="900" height="394" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiat_QtuRGmwOhja-nhEFWSLuLDV8e7o7Ai4jowOEskwrm4S5doHfFyaPbdbISCYzxjHC9yJJTzz2vpSpF_DU2ubft70tmOE1cz2kzEFv_0acVbo65TKBF9ldd66fUlN8M9e-f7hJts8Ntt/w640-h394/image_48718.jpg" width="640" /></a></div><p style="text-align: left;">Incidentally, they had to take out the large Magnolia tree that had been in the Pet Cemetery area since before the HM was even built, and it's a relief to see that another large tree was brought in to replace it. I'm sure there was a good reason to remove the old gal (diseased? causing structural damage?).</p><p style="text-align: left;"><br /></p><p style="text-align: left;"><span style="color: #93c47d; font-size: large;">(7) The Telescope</span></p><p style="text-align: left;">Hip hip hooray, the telescope on the upper balcony is back after a <a href="https://longforgottenhauntedmansion.blogspot.com/2013/07/stroll-around-grounds-until-you-feel-at.html" target="_blank">20 year absence</a>.</p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEieH6S2SZIuQeTFUyE28NnfpAbSDlmW9AT1BlJmXHXUg0dz3t1JF1cesWkG2D8IG8U17mwVrc6WiDHLKHfe1EVUInja3kkDrLZw1kNcm7PAIBRy5qmOn83mCj0Zk8YMKwACjcZpPcVTHZRp/s899/nnnn.png" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="871" data-original-width="899" height="620" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEieH6S2SZIuQeTFUyE28NnfpAbSDlmW9AT1BlJmXHXUg0dz3t1JF1cesWkG2D8IG8U17mwVrc6WiDHLKHfe1EVUInja3kkDrLZw1kNcm7PAIBRy5qmOn83mCj0Zk8YMKwACjcZpPcVTHZRp/w640-h620/nnnn.png" width="640" /></a></div><p style="text-align: left;">Intelligently, it's on a tripod rather than attached to the railing like the earlier model, so it can easily be removed for the HMH and put back afterwards. (That's what doomed the old one.) Really happy to see this one.</p><p style="text-align: left;"><br /></p><p style="text-align: left;"><span style="color: #93c47d; font-size: large;">(8) Phineas Gets a Wardrobe Upgrade</span></p><p style="text-align: left;">Sharp-eyed Forgottenistas like <span style="color: #f6b26b;">yensidtlaw</span> at the Micechat "Thread" have noticed that Phineas has been given a new cloak, one which more closely matches the concept art for the figure. Subtle stuff indeed, and well done. That's the old Phineas on the left, the new on the right.</p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhekrIMNMq8Qa-Kerhk4NTV4K0N5t6gZXdvqEDO9Toe_sblg6_6rl-S8XqR0GTUOvy0JqhUQVyf4cIz-aI1z18FEmgrKGwSetywAQAz6SF-aG1kXTuYt-_Gc9f4GMkHWENdPOg1vS1dT-P8/s512/phin+sideside.png" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="421" data-original-width="512" height="526" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhekrIMNMq8Qa-Kerhk4NTV4K0N5t6gZXdvqEDO9Toe_sblg6_6rl-S8XqR0GTUOvy0JqhUQVyf4cIz-aI1z18FEmgrKGwSetywAQAz6SF-aG1kXTuYt-_Gc9f4GMkHWENdPOg1vS1dT-P8/w640-h526/phin+sideside.png" width="640" /></a></div><br /><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiuhJcZSPDiID8mzBIE17Sb7Dmsej_eMHhpBfAQKiIMC9ar2gMQsZigg5VvEqP0kY_xO4tlVhbr5NSuq_gK3VGgQ4-I0cw14XzLkUHGF-kBlQR_JagesiJz7t1lqI_q4ECHnGP5LY9Z13XP/s951/hhgs.png" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="949" data-original-width="951" height="638" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiuhJcZSPDiID8mzBIE17Sb7Dmsej_eMHhpBfAQKiIMC9ar2gMQsZigg5VvEqP0kY_xO4tlVhbr5NSuq_gK3VGgQ4-I0cw14XzLkUHGF-kBlQR_JagesiJz7t1lqI_q4ECHnGP5LY9Z13XP/w640-h638/hhgs.png" width="640" /></a></div><p style="text-align: left;"><br /></p><p style="text-align: left;"><span style="color: #93c47d; font-size: large;">Other Items</span></p><p style="text-align: left;">Some changes may not be changes at all but merely temporary flukes. The deaf guy with the mummy had lost his long beard, but last week it looked to me like it had miraculously grown back. I've mentioned the rain effect in the Portrait Hall windows. I also noticed that the door knockers in the Corridor of Doors were much quieter than they used to be. I hope this isn't a deliberate muffling. I <i>like</i> the clack-clack-clack. It gets your attention and has you looking for the cause, which is a good thing. I also liked that they were a "practical" effect and continued clacking noisily away even during "pranky spirit" interruptions. It makes sense, doesn't it? Some ghosts care not one bit what their prankier brethren are doing and are going to keep up their racket regardless. <i>Screw you all; clack we shall.</i> More power to them.</p><p style="text-align: left;">Reader<span style="color: #e06666;"> Imagineer999</span> points out in the <i>Comments</i> that the Caretaker has his original scraggly beard once again. So far as I know, this is the first time he's had it since the earliest days of the Mansion.</p><p style="text-align: left;"><span style="color: #6fa8dc;"><a href="http://passport2dreams.blogspot.com" target="_blank">Foxxy</a> has some additional observations after visiting in August: (1) The changing portraits seem to have individual spotlights on them now, making them easier to "read." Mark Hille, in the <i>Comments </i>below, had already noted this; (2) the "monotone chorus" in the graveyard (by the hearse tea party) is more conspicuous, either louder now, or restored after being absent; (3) darker, more mysterious lighting on the exterior porches at night; (4) the so-called Donald Duck chair by the Endless Hallway is new and plusher looking. Vickie Bramm (at the Haunted Mansion fan club on Facebook) explained this to me a couple of weeks ago: The old chair was apparently too decrepit to clean up, so they just made a new one. It looks like it was made to resemble the old one as closely as possible.</span></p><p></p><p></p><p>When I was there, <a href="https://longforgottenhauntedmansion.blogspot.com/2021/06/the-least-noticed-ghostly-effect-in.html" target="_blank">the blowing drapes were not blowing—in either doorway. The rotting fruit on the ballroom table is not yet rejuvenating</a>. Little Leota's projection was out of alignment, like it was last time I was there. I wonder when the last time it was correct? Other stuff that is obviously just temporarily busted I won't bother mentioning, but I must say something about the pop-up spooks in the graveyard, which I saw July 20-22. They were a disgrace. One didn't pop at all, some did manage to pop but were unlighted, and some popped so anemically that the word <i>pop</i> almost seems like a dishonest use of language, unless, perhaps, in some such sense as "great-grand-pop." <a href="https://longforgottenhauntedmansion.blogspot.com/2014/01/unseen-twists-and-turns-in-corridor-of.html" target="_blank">Ol' Blasty</a> was working, but he barely cleared his sarcophagus lid. None of the seven were in tip-top shape, I'm afraid. Bad show, that.</p><p><br /></p><p><span style="color: #b6d7a8; font-size: large;">NEW: The Conservatory</span></p><p>Overlooked at the time, it wasn't until <a href="https://longforgottenhauntedmansion.blogspot.com/2022/03/something-old-something-new-something.html" target="_blank">early in 2022</a> that we noticed some changes to the Conservatory. Victorian-era details were added in the form of cards and banners with writing on them attached to some of the floral arrangements, only one of which has been deciphered at this point (Mar 29, 2022). When they were put back in, following the HMH of 2021-22, several were relocated. The largest placard then became much more noticeable. This clip is from 2021:</p><div style="text-align: center;"><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><iframe allowfullscreen='allowfullscreen' webkitallowfullscreen='webkitallowfullscreen' mozallowfullscreen='mozallowfullscreen' width='452' height='306' src='https://www.blogger.com/video.g?token=AD6v5dzf8CNVIJA6Mz9cAYvOnsWzZaK_s4WRUL61DmNOOV4HvDEKfTxkaPDv0c3vII4JPxn3TQJBeXgbhW_HZxe-0A' class='b-hbp-video b-uploaded' frameborder='0'></iframe></div></div><div style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6tQw4qxrDc" target="_blank">FreshBaked!</a></div><p><br /></p><p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #ffd966; font-size: x-large;">***************************</span></p><p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #ffd966; font-size: x-large;"><br /></span></p></div>HBG2http://www.blogger.com/profile/05073387557562504315noreply@blogger.com14tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4444762441887107389.post-50859497200000972362021-06-05T16:58:00.045-07:002023-07-13T23:12:11.704-07:00The Least-Noticed Ghostly Effect in the Haunted Mansion?<div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEikz4ONH-iKwAP0WoeN7eDFN6TB0zicCyZWCGSm7pxCxBkMlzZFiPHFYuXqhHpWPKE3Re8A0O_N8IV90KoFI_mjPw3H3v0UItGpRbzODrknSfdygpPzP5wGL6qV7jrFEv47J0V0G7K7EFmY/s724/bowl.png" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="718" data-original-width="724" height="636" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEikz4ONH-iKwAP0WoeN7eDFN6TB0zicCyZWCGSm7pxCxBkMlzZFiPHFYuXqhHpWPKE3Re8A0O_N8IV90KoFI_mjPw3H3v0UItGpRbzODrknSfdygpPzP5wGL6qV7jrFEv47J0V0G7K7EFmY/w640-h636/bowl.png" width="640" /></a></div><p>Sounds Long-Forgotteny to me, babe.</p><p>The Imagineers who created this most fascinating of all Disney attractions filled it pretty thick with groovy special effects (yes, groovy; we ARE talking 1969 here). By "special effects," I'm not referring to <i>static design elements</i> like <a href="https://longforgottenhauntedmansion.blogspot.com/2012/05/walls-and-stares.html" target="_blank">faces in the wallpaper</a> or <a href="https://longforgottenhauntedmansion.blogspot.com/2010/08/man-who-saved-gryphons.html" target="_blank">gryphons carved into furniture</a>. I'm talking about<b> <u>things that <i>happen</i> in the ride</u></b>, spooky <i>occurrences</i> that betray the presence of a ghost. Some are spectacular and impossible to miss. Others get noticed after a few rides. Still others are entirely missed by some but nevertheless seen by others. To my own everlasting shame, I never noticed the Hatchet Man portrait in the COD until well into the 21st century, when it was called to my attention.<br /></p><p>Having nothing better to do one afternoon, I asked myself, "Self, what is the <i>least noticed</i> ghostly effect in the Haunted Mansion? Something that was made to be seen and yet is rarely noticed, even by Mansionological veterans and fanatics of standing?" I figured it would be worth a post, because said item is supposed to be part of the overall experience of the ride, and yet for 99.9% it is not.<br /></p><p>There's some stiff competition here. I did an informal poll among the inmates over at <a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/hauntedmansionfanclub" target="_blank">The Haunted Mansion Fan Club</a> and pretty much got the results I expected. It seems to me there are four strong contenders for this dubious distinction. As it happens, we've covered three of the four before, so I won't waste too much bandwidth on them here, but I will make a few new remarks about some of them before turning to number four.</p><p>One reason these are rarely noticed is because they are often out of commission, sometimes for years or even <i>decades</i>, before they get fixed. Currently, three and possibly all four are inoperative, and in such cases one wonders if they have been permanently decommissioned, or "Yesterlanded" in Disney parlance. What makes these four different is that even when they are there, they are missed by the vast majority of guests.<br /></p><p><br /></p><p><span style="color: #93c47d; font-size: x-large;">The Traveling Light</span></p><p>This first one was the subject of a post, <a href="https://longforgottenhauntedmansion.blogspot.com/2013/05/weird-glows-gleam-where-spirits-dwell.html" target="_blank">HERE</a>, and there's nothing more to say at this point. It's not certain whether it's currently in operation at Disneyland, because the shorter hours in effect since reopening in May of 2021 mean it doesn't really get dark enough long enough to see if it's there. It's easily my favorite of the four.</p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhivLXEdnyiFzPIOe_5mZ84uJ85ldwbb-JcPDqjI9AMQv02QrgIIkWjwUZgkq-oApLZINsmViTFO4L8GyFB0buRgNRM5wmHa2eYtaaCqkijZTCeQjZpxolFPriYhZ3SN9sGXEcq4-Ae2Nf4/s413/light+copy.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="355" data-original-width="413" height="550" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhivLXEdnyiFzPIOe_5mZ84uJ85ldwbb-JcPDqjI9AMQv02QrgIIkWjwUZgkq-oApLZINsmViTFO4L8GyFB0buRgNRM5wmHa2eYtaaCqkijZTCeQjZpxolFPriYhZ3SN9sGXEcq4-Ae2Nf4/w640-h550/light+copy.jpg" width="640" /></a></div><p><br /></p><p><span style="color: #93c47d; font-size: x-large;">The Cold-Air Blast</span></p><p>This one too has been discussed in an <a href="https://longforgottenhauntedmansion.blogspot.com/2011/08/beginning-of-endless-hallway.html" target="_blank">earlier post</a>. Of the four, it's the one most likely to be permanently Yesterlanded, at least at Disneyland. (It still works at WDW and presumably Tokyo.) To briefly recap, there are air-conditioning ducts pointed at you in the Endless Hallway area, with the intention of creating a "cold spot" in this location. It's been missing for so long at DL that some doubt it was ever there, but according to <a href="https://www.doombuggies.com/interview_saunders.html" target="_blank">Paul Saunders</a>, it certainly was, at least in the beginning.</p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgIy0ySFb4PdXVXcxhSI-CW3ne7q-lkXWzR1HWXJIkSFxSC1d3Mftuxjr5GgqZaL7AuAShZcUBXdGdeN1ynOXznUhsRun575YGIy1A_XxDrN8dp1GF0q15A6RstgzR6ap6JPnBqXYy0naAv/s623/cold+air+effect.png" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="623" data-original-width="422" height="640" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgIy0ySFb4PdXVXcxhSI-CW3ne7q-lkXWzR1HWXJIkSFxSC1d3Mftuxjr5GgqZaL7AuAShZcUBXdGdeN1ynOXznUhsRun575YGIy1A_XxDrN8dp1GF0q15A6RstgzR6ap6JPnBqXYy0naAv/w434-h640/cold+air+effect.png" width="434" /></a></div><p>Again, the difference between a missing and possibly-Yesterlanded effect like this and other such effects, such as the attic popups and bats, or various and sundry Séance Circle items (<a href="https://longforgottenhauntedmansion.blogspot.com/2010/08/seance-circle-part-two-davenports.html" target="_blank">second drum</a>, good ol' <a href="https://longforgottenhauntedmansion.blogspot.com/2010/05/purply-shroud.html" target="_blank">Purply Shroud</a>, the <a href="https://longforgottenhauntedmansion.blogspot.com/2010/08/seance-circle-part-two-davenports.html" target="_blank">ectoplasm ball</a>), is that even when operative it was easily missed, and hence few remember it at all.</p><p><br /></p><p><span style="color: #93c47d; font-size: x-large;">The Blowing Drapes</span></p><p>These were discussed in the same post as our previous remarks about the Cold Air blast, but some additional comments are in order about how difficult the effect is to notice.</p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEihxGJuYEftqwz6oy000zI0rhizEwBjMTxnznwIKrRR1oFLsU8ZUYNVuhyBpGWkcCJjXQTEbuPpjX4ms0nzKytQNEL_f1SymZR3U5w9nH6Ejcf_0N7xOP50ypegNPKcWLMh6e729RggaOBV/s791/unnamed-1.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="771" data-original-width="791" height="624" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEihxGJuYEftqwz6oy000zI0rhizEwBjMTxnznwIKrRR1oFLsU8ZUYNVuhyBpGWkcCJjXQTEbuPpjX4ms0nzKytQNEL_f1SymZR3U5w9nH6Ejcf_0N7xOP50ypegNPKcWLMh6e729RggaOBV/w640-h624/unnamed-1.jpg" width="640" /></a></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhlT85tv7KW5hyrCnGOFM1NpYmuWvR-5PqjjlNhtM1PoiZbG77uqg3vPcGlzdKqtnTVCacD1zYNzDexQLee2kb3DbPMQkvZP_WCgNnH5pH8tSY_-ZvNEyTV5H2jhSsZrVqzsYVOjl2QN9de/s881/blowing+drapes+effect.png" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="663" data-original-width="881" height="482" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhlT85tv7KW5hyrCnGOFM1NpYmuWvR-5PqjjlNhtM1PoiZbG77uqg3vPcGlzdKqtnTVCacD1zYNzDexQLee2kb3DbPMQkvZP_WCgNnH5pH8tSY_-ZvNEyTV5H2jhSsZrVqzsYVOjl2QN9de/w640-h482/blowing+drapes+effect.png" width="640" /></a></div><p>The effect was there in the beginning, and in the past (alas, increasingly distant) I noticed it on numerous occasions, but it's been a long time since I've seen it in operation. I can't see any reason why it would be canceled altogether, since it's so simple. It's just a <i>fan</i>, for cryin' out loud. It's probably like the Traveling Light, an effect so little noticed that when broken, it tends to stay broken for a long time.<br /></p><p>When the drapes in the door next to the so-called "Donald Duck" chair are blowing, even though easily overlooked, they are still noticed by enough visitors to knock this puppy out of the competition for any "least-noticed effect" award. Not so with the <i>other </i>door where the effect is supposed to be. At Disneyland, that one was / is virtually invisible.</p><p>The problem is in the way the doombuggies turn. On the blueprint above you can see that the first door on the left should easily be visible to riders, with drapes a-blowin', but when they put the actual ride together they adjusted the buggies so that they start turning to the right much sooner, with the result that by the time you pass the doorway it's behind you.</p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjrPZf8BqWm65w4VBcbkl5ppV-2BwxtfXTIZL8dna-qAGNDtJ2oN2778AN8y5HSQXY3H7K7v0oWZ4DUTM7Kwvzc6NoyoB_o0TjAfIQyxi_KcuKBrc5m7X5G7R3ZPoAwpHfPJ-1jvZbyPOsu/s571/dbg.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="424" data-original-width="571" height="476" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjrPZf8BqWm65w4VBcbkl5ppV-2BwxtfXTIZL8dna-qAGNDtJ2oN2778AN8y5HSQXY3H7K7v0oWZ4DUTM7Kwvzc6NoyoB_o0TjAfIQyxi_KcuKBrc5m7X5G7R3ZPoAwpHfPJ-1jvZbyPOsu/w640-h476/dbg.jpg" width="640" /></a></div><p style="text-align: center;">Whatever you do, my friends, <i>don't look behind you!!!</i></p><p style="text-align: left;">With enough effort you can see it, but it's usually so dark over there that even if you do you're not likely to see much. I doubt that one rider out of a hundred even knows that the door is there. In this night-vision video from 2013, you can see how difficult it is to see its full length, even if it were light enough. The <i>other</i> doorway's drapes seem to be blowing on this occasion (hat tip <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0Ag6XxUev8&t=431s" target="_blank">ThemeParkHD</a>):<span style="text-align: center;"> </span></p><p style="text-align: center;"></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><iframe allowfullscreen='allowfullscreen' webkitallowfullscreen='webkitallowfullscreen' mozallowfullscreen='mozallowfullscreen' width='428' height='356' src='https://www.blogger.com/video.g?token=AD6v5dx3WLjgrpK-SouZT_ybRtN9m-svRk_cw7gvEznLoNrLVVD_wUZIbc9UiGmfPvyPeRGXPftCJ7HsZab0hV7TKQ' class='b-hbp-video b-uploaded' frameborder='0'></iframe></div><p></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;">I can find no irrefutable evidence that the drapes in that first door were ever blowing. I do have vague memories of seeing blowing drapes there back in the very earliest days of the ride, but they are not the sort of memories I would trust, so neither should you. However, the fact that the effect is there at WDW does suggest that it was used at DL at least in the beginning. The doombuggies at WDW (and probably Tokyo) turn less sharply and quickly in this area and are more like in the blueprint, making the doorway more easily seen. Here's a 2018 WDW vid in which you can see the drapes in that doorway blowing (hat tip <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wLrY9Y5M1o" target="_blank">JohnYChen</a>):<br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><iframe allowfullscreen='allowfullscreen' webkitallowfullscreen='webkitallowfullscreen' mozallowfullscreen='mozallowfullscreen' width='486' height='404' src='https://www.blogger.com/video.g?token=AD6v5dxke7SwYVBo3M46j7XRv1RTzjdXCG4iNsjcngmjdkszNfkXJo362K06sT1qe01yYMbuRKduwRl1EiT97puv4A' class='b-hbp-video b-uploaded' frameborder='0'></iframe></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;">I don't know why I think so, but wouldn't it be cool if the curtains were flapping around back there even now without anyone knowing it? A ghost ghosting away in vain. Pleasantly melancholy if you think about it. If the blowing drapes <i>are</i> there and haven't been officially given the axe, and it's just a case of a fan being broken or something, then they win our award hands-down, at least at Disneyland. This is something for you die-hards to try to photograph somehow, holding your phone out the left side of the doombuggy at just the right moment.</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;">But like I said, those drapes really aren't what I came here to talk about.</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><span style="color: #93c47d; font-size: x-large;">The Rotting Fruit</span></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;">At last, the true <i>raison d'être</i> for this post. In the eye-popping spectacle that is the Grand Ballroom, there's a lot to take in. In such a busy environment, it should come as no surprise that not very many people ever notice that the fruit bowl atop the table centerpiece is the scene of a special effect.</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;">The rotting fruit effect goes back to a Marc Davis concept for a changing portrait:</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgm_oBB_vONSA6dTNjlqjATznS1y7sgDjvyj0-Brm6pznRlvtgws3WNF6weq1Kx0bVMomxemrkalAxTT-JV0usDQwbVQ1aKmsW4_gkkx6iqOB_E8lGzmmd7TauBqDPfFU_JftFCGOQRWTBr/s1084/marc+triform.png" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="349" data-original-width="1084" height="206" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgm_oBB_vONSA6dTNjlqjATznS1y7sgDjvyj0-Brm6pznRlvtgws3WNF6weq1Kx0bVMomxemrkalAxTT-JV0usDQwbVQ1aKmsW4_gkkx6iqOB_E8lGzmmd7TauBqDPfFU_JftFCGOQRWTBr/w640-h206/marc+triform.png" width="640" /></a></div><br /><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;">This is very similar to the unused <a href="http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y32/danolson/animated%20gifs/RoseAnimation2.gif" target="_blank">wilting flowers</a> changing portrait. Thematically, what we've got is a sort of botanical April-December.<br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;">When the ghosts at the table are visible, the fruit in the bowl is luminous and luscious, but when the Birthday Gal blows out the candles and the ghosts disappear, the fruit returns to its previous state of decay. Cool.</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;">Investigating this effect has been a challenge. You can make a good case that it is NOT original to the '69 Mansion.</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><ul style="text-align: left;"><li><span style="color: #f1c232;">(1) There are no references to it on the effects blueprints or on maintenance lists, at least not the ones that I have seen.</span></li><li><span style="color: #f1c232;">(2) The fruit bowl is missing entirely from pre-opening publicity photos and WED test film footage.</span></li><li><span style="color: #f1c232;">(3) It doesn't seem to be there in the 1974 "Sandy Duncan visits the HM" footage, and in fact clear video proof of the fruit bowl effect doesn't show up until 1992.</span></li><li><span style="color: #f1c232;">(4) The centerpiece on the Pepper's Ghost set-up directly beneath your doombuggy as you pass by was certainly altered at some point from a black post with a fruit bowl on top to a more complete fixture with both the fruit bowl and the foliage on either side. Perhaps the older, post version was just a mask for the centerpiece and the change actually marks when the rejuvenating fruit effect was first introduced.</span></li></ul></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;">That's an impressive list, but some counterarguments are possible:</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;">(1) Absence from the blueprints and maintenance lists is not decisive, because there are numerous minor effects in the ride that are missing from those prints and lists and are nevertheless authentically of 1969 vintage, such as the rain effect in the Portrait Hall windows and ghost projectors in the graveyard.</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;">(2) This argument cuts both ways. In those pre-opening photos, the place is not yet fully decorated. For instance, the cobwebs aren't there yet. But the table <i>is</i> pretty much set, so why is the centerpiece incomplete? Is it because there was a special effect intended for that spot that wasn't ready to go yet?</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEh70H5X8jbgFc5oMkRLBNBc-JY7qXhCEfc2bMF6hlbU7Z4G9N5iRAAlbKw9tuo3NufsdEIx7YiH352rJVT3jy5-DkAed1DmqgI4TOuDWIWGyBg_ulDHJj_b-bz73nlFDGTZC1Vgo2j5riir/s810/table+shot2.png" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="391" data-original-width="810" height="308" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEh70H5X8jbgFc5oMkRLBNBc-JY7qXhCEfc2bMF6hlbU7Z4G9N5iRAAlbKw9tuo3NufsdEIx7YiH352rJVT3jy5-DkAed1DmqgI4TOuDWIWGyBg_ulDHJj_b-bz73nlFDGTZC1Vgo2j5riir/w640-h308/table+shot2.png" width="640" /></a></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj8ouZgOHUGJ2aT8KpE_qAe_f3W77EujCJjufXn0uZclNxVd-vJN0sHoCa5wzHujM66K8u2rRaH9TDxY97VNvLFbRibvNM2TCgcjb-BsxDo6tkd8RGS1GgGmCR17tbRLrxxw-59Wdh-MpuW/s460/table+shot1.png" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="426" data-original-width="460" height="592" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj8ouZgOHUGJ2aT8KpE_qAe_f3W77EujCJjufXn0uZclNxVd-vJN0sHoCa5wzHujM66K8u2rRaH9TDxY97VNvLFbRibvNM2TCgcjb-BsxDo6tkd8RGS1GgGmCR17tbRLrxxw-59Wdh-MpuW/w640-h592/table+shot1.png" width="640" /></a></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;">As for #3, yes, the effect does seem to be missing in the 1974 Sandy Duncan special:</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><iframe allowfullscreen='allowfullscreen' webkitallowfullscreen='webkitallowfullscreen' mozallowfullscreen='mozallowfullscreen' width='403' height='335' src='https://www.blogger.com/video.g?token=AD6v5dw-TwV0yWs3rlUTzEPykpDGRJisKeX-0H-xEs-Jnpj7GFcCwSpEuB7BqCkagwrixYFos1XzQKChr6CxuGadIw' class='b-hbp-video b-uploaded' frameborder='0'></iframe></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;">But all kinds of things were turned on and off in order to film that program. It's not a true reflection (pun intended) of the ride in normal operation. And while it's true that good video evidence for the effect's existence comes late, that's more a reflection (no pun this time) of the state of video camera capabilities in the 70s and 80s than anything else. It's hard to find <i>any</i> decent video of the HM interior before the 90s.</div>The effect <i>does</i>
seem to be present in the 1990 "Woody visits the HM" vid (the "Cheers"
thing for the park's 35th Anny). You have to look quickly and closely.
The lighting on the fruit bowl <i>does</i> seem to change, and the fruit actually brightens a little at the very beginning of the clip.<div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><iframe allowfullscreen='allowfullscreen' webkitallowfullscreen='webkitallowfullscreen' mozallowfullscreen='mozallowfullscreen' width='501' height='416' src='https://www.blogger.com/video.g?token=AD6v5dy_KmFf7GzJhem88tLa3YcJeqo-kASE3emiE7s7yGSXnUr0MLMcJXK7oWdUWp4n-yZf8y0JTHlvwfyw7Zz-6A' class='b-hbp-video b-uploaded' frameborder='0'></iframe></div></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"> But if you're skeptical about that footage, the earliest unambiguous video evidence for the fruit effect dates to 1992 (hat tip <a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC98G3C8Trj7axvLkN9kF43w" target="_blank">Mark Raymond</a>):</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><iframe allowfullscreen='allowfullscreen' webkitallowfullscreen='webkitallowfullscreen' mozallowfullscreen='mozallowfullscreen' width='414' height='344' src='https://www.blogger.com/video.g?token=AD6v5dxztxiMdyDc5hQMFJvM5iJFxF20mfbiy_CtqEoG4BCSb8nuemjjNd-KfaFsLzDCXZKLv7TtN4yDEohF-elP9Q' class='b-hbp-video b-uploaded' frameborder='0'></iframe></div></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;">It remained there through 2001, although one absence is recorded in June of 1999. Here's a 2001 vid (hat tip <a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCuTPCYhQ0V7POAbJZZIxPZg" target="_blank">FireByNite</a>):</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><iframe allowfullscreen='allowfullscreen' webkitallowfullscreen='webkitallowfullscreen' mozallowfullscreen='mozallowfullscreen' width='413' height='344' src='https://www.blogger.com/video.g?token=AD6v5dyfK41eAJOFcqIF0ky3S1o5Mv6ta1JMKEmZ4peXDLmPe-MBayIIuc4yi75gIaGmhuHauUjDo_szunbmjTdgmg' class='b-hbp-video b-uploaded' frameborder='0'></iframe></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;">It disappeared in 2002 and did not reappear until 2015. Those dates suggest that when the effect was shut off for the first HMH in 2001, it was forgotten about and not turned back on again until 13 years later! Perhaps when they were installing the new HBG in 2015, someone finally remembered the fruit effect and noticed that it was gone. Here it is in 2015 (hat tip <a href="https://www.youtube.com/user/UndercoverTourist" target="_blank">UndercoverTourist</a>):</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><iframe allowfullscreen='allowfullscreen' webkitallowfullscreen='webkitallowfullscreen' mozallowfullscreen='mozallowfullscreen' width='426' height='354' src='https://www.blogger.com/video.g?token=AD6v5dxhB-S8I7jCPWEnDr6byHIstoRcInZ_JKd0HDDORUj_MrnU-RT0fE8No7btrM1Dw61yeukInh8c5qbMxf50Xw' class='b-hbp-video b-uploaded' frameborder='0'></iframe></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;">Then it's a rollercoaster ride. 2016? It's there. 2017? It's gone. 2018, 2019, 2020? It's there. So far, with the reopening of the Mansion in 2021, it's missing.<span style="color: #ff00fe; font-size: large;">*</span> You get the impression that it's there and functional, but someone keeps forgetting to flip a switch somewhere. The otherwise inexplicable absences in 1999 and 2017, both of them in the middle of a run of "on" years, certainly suggests this.</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;">(4) It does appear to be the case that originally, they just propped up the fruit cluster on a black post on the table where the AA figures actually are, but the date of the introduction of the fruit effect does not correspond with the date of the change from the "ghost post" to the fuller-foliage arrangment. As we shall see. You can see the "ghost post" in these three photos:<br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj8vqzViIbVMHw7l2xsVtiBaSWn8t_Et0X-2jj30PXLVrZZLIJd8x-yaoRgHdszhBt93QOheh_rHwyaNyH68u0T2acA8ra5ohDIVLQYVY4iv2DXScLwPr54dJ7uHEn_i_kW2rVIwsxVyCKh/s1051/surrell+shot.png" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="645" data-original-width="1051" height="392" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj8vqzViIbVMHw7l2xsVtiBaSWn8t_Et0X-2jj30PXLVrZZLIJd8x-yaoRgHdszhBt93QOheh_rHwyaNyH68u0T2acA8ra5ohDIVLQYVY4iv2DXScLwPr54dJ7uHEn_i_kW2rVIwsxVyCKh/w640-h392/surrell+shot.png" width="640" /></a></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg4-HWCRNjz5VYhhvZsEZX4rggKq8ZeKUvvqz1i-_2W7MaUemcyyOe6XVAfKD-wcPbTcESG1OZj_y1813aqwuD0Okux2UfXYqabk_6ym8EPFNCeSyPM0OUZ2SlGGe-MqlEWtp8iguWE4upO/s607/post3.png" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="556" data-original-width="607" height="586" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg4-HWCRNjz5VYhhvZsEZX4rggKq8ZeKUvvqz1i-_2W7MaUemcyyOe6XVAfKD-wcPbTcESG1OZj_y1813aqwuD0Okux2UfXYqabk_6ym8EPFNCeSyPM0OUZ2SlGGe-MqlEWtp8iguWE4upO/w640-h586/post3.png" width="640" /></a></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhCMI0WgSgxC23GyVJ4KegpW9J7prCc8S9H-akJndeEzFbKYaQeqn2Y81Y8GY4dThoXune6rUNRvqv4anrYNH60BlVA_rKZvD9K9UfU2UtvvgLLclVFT30WH9tcf3JWl3tUGkCFyrt-3ourym79JF-kbahe4egsdQXICNgHaTbTAKTWP3vtxYFLmdARVOk1/s744/fruit2.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="528" data-original-width="744" height="454" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhCMI0WgSgxC23GyVJ4KegpW9J7prCc8S9H-akJndeEzFbKYaQeqn2Y81Y8GY4dThoXune6rUNRvqv4anrYNH60BlVA_rKZvD9K9UfU2UtvvgLLclVFT30WH9tcf3JWl3tUGkCFyrt-3ourym79JF-kbahe4egsdQXICNgHaTbTAKTWP3vtxYFLmdARVOk1/w640-h454/fruit2.jpg" width="640" /></a></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg5O3Os0dlsAbHbkY-jM5_VxgVQmBTf-pd4Nek1qwZEVrHz0y_bRiKy3_JnJf3c4yBjYzPf9YT-xQnCHA3TsG4bF1kIhBS5XTQTNq4qa4t0U4u-Y-3Y2n4u6QMAmNshz5iubJBI-LT8kiqU/s210/Ghost-Fruit+copy.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="210" data-original-width="210" height="400" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg5O3Os0dlsAbHbkY-jM5_VxgVQmBTf-pd4Nek1qwZEVrHz0y_bRiKy3_JnJf3c4yBjYzPf9YT-xQnCHA3TsG4bF1kIhBS5XTQTNq4qa4t0U4u-Y-3Y2n4u6QMAmNshz5iubJBI-LT8kiqU/w400-h400/Ghost-Fruit+copy.jpg" width="400" /></a></div><br /><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;">They exchanged the "ghost post" for a duplication of the fruit bowl <i>and </i>its surrounding foliage sometime before 2002, the date of these pix:</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhqO3PiHWKVI2cYfxRkhdIr0uq8skdoM5ic7dFAWPPfHRPBmvdBk6oJpp-9AVamjjkyJE5H1DwRXwC_4GJzAaIuYTFG2yxk2oWnxJ25RlZZak-V0PFbjHz5aSYwach-7mTro_c3gvLaTmbz/s665/fruit+table+2.png" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="476" data-original-width="665" height="458" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhqO3PiHWKVI2cYfxRkhdIr0uq8skdoM5ic7dFAWPPfHRPBmvdBk6oJpp-9AVamjjkyJE5H1DwRXwC_4GJzAaIuYTFG2yxk2oWnxJ25RlZZak-V0PFbjHz5aSYwach-7mTro_c3gvLaTmbz/w640-h458/fruit+table+2.png" width="640" /></a></div><br /><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgliYSg94Yv8hia0dcBu27QzF0ykUVvsD0UwPCS0HZ_lI4UXlwq9scu7F4CvqGbnqn_7njKBEKsh0jbfNU8TmPmBrj3TFPlGyJ0TkcGwMthvLKnWzegVvWmGiJx65v_tClpnQHGhnnSPkPM/s1024/fruit+table+4+2008+or+earl.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="768" data-original-width="1024" height="480" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgliYSg94Yv8hia0dcBu27QzF0ykUVvsD0UwPCS0HZ_lI4UXlwq9scu7F4CvqGbnqn_7njKBEKsh0jbfNU8TmPmBrj3TFPlGyJ0TkcGwMthvLKnWzegVvWmGiJx65v_tClpnQHGhnnSPkPM/w640-h480/fruit+table+4+2008+or+earl.jpg" width="640" /></a></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjoOibadfuOzv4X_bNx5u0Sr-0DRHmulqwn_FchiH6swZ0GYPtcyN3Pucabd2p_U4moRImAEZkf4Z0qKIlB3R9t0YFMKdT5imAZOj3AET5zovok5Ko09KMmC4rzc0lejjh9SJThhdkK8P3V/s1024/fruit+table.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="768" data-original-width="1024" height="480" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjoOibadfuOzv4X_bNx5u0Sr-0DRHmulqwn_FchiH6swZ0GYPtcyN3Pucabd2p_U4moRImAEZkf4Z0qKIlB3R9t0YFMKdT5imAZOj3AET5zovok5Ko09KMmC4rzc0lejjh9SJThhdkK8P3V/w640-h480/fruit+table.jpg" width="640" /></a></div><br /><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;">Note in that 2002 photo how the fruit has been painted with gray highlights, probably to make it look decayed from a distance and in low lighting. In more recent photos, you can see that the centerpiece has been entirely repainted with dull and dark colors, in order to enhance the "springing back to life" effect. Or maybe just to get the damn thing noticed!</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEggkj2HS368VwZMfdFZvYBdGg0mPI9p_euKzUlra_YMbYowNGww_NqfzzgolRPbQlyFp-DGFlhDRly_Ohbg6eU8wV2QnoVKX77FLdFofCs0BJn_-yBIfP39SWI8qD1J_i8TUqwnXJGe3EiN/s561/fbb.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="503" data-original-width="561" height="574" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEggkj2HS368VwZMfdFZvYBdGg0mPI9p_euKzUlra_YMbYowNGww_NqfzzgolRPbQlyFp-DGFlhDRly_Ohbg6eU8wV2QnoVKX77FLdFofCs0BJn_-yBIfP39SWI8qD1J_i8TUqwnXJGe3EiN/w640-h574/fbb.jpg" width="640" /></a></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEi_2Q1653btU8kIsNjgi0nFxFCPwWEdIP6Z1W2383KKvWeInaEr1Gpx_0fHAH3M4S9fDq7dB4_Hlr4CeBSLGl1KiM7ci8lEaRzLfFc7ONkUUdfRXGt9dNmVjfg4z1Yb3-evYP0F-HSNXsuF/s492/fbbb.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="492" data-original-width="269" height="640" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEi_2Q1653btU8kIsNjgi0nFxFCPwWEdIP6Z1W2383KKvWeInaEr1Gpx_0fHAH3M4S9fDq7dB4_Hlr4CeBSLGl1KiM7ci8lEaRzLfFc7ONkUUdfRXGt9dNmVjfg4z1Yb3-evYP0F-HSNXsuF/w350-h640/fbbb.jpg" width="350" /></a></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><span style="color: #cc0000;">NEW PHOTO 9/2022</span>. <span style="color: #ffe599;">In this exceptionally clear photo by Jesse Lee Newcomb, you can plainly see how the centerpiece is painted dark gray, obviously so as to provide a contrast to the colorful, fresh fruit and greenery. Unfortunately, as of 2022, the effect has still not been turned on.</span></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhPEb5BffVNC5KIc3XH9B-pzh5llvsJ3cRiOyUJtkOQ6LfbG4Xt1QhH97Hjv5HdjRf6FvItGItJmfXcEOsVNqQnAM2NbbzOMqBcOTypRhgXtgj6QleSpPpZwLkF8vAg8P3yvnIct-pZQaELxvVlEDw6xFskzwnjZ_-vThLL9PThjwyZBAVB0IaAqiiYHg/s824/Screen%20Shot%202022-09-12%20at%205.59.15%20PM.png" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="489" data-original-width="824" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhPEb5BffVNC5KIc3XH9B-pzh5llvsJ3cRiOyUJtkOQ6LfbG4Xt1QhH97Hjv5HdjRf6FvItGItJmfXcEOsVNqQnAM2NbbzOMqBcOTypRhgXtgj6QleSpPpZwLkF8vAg8P3yvnIct-pZQaELxvVlEDw6xFskzwnjZ_-vThLL9PThjwyZBAVB0IaAqiiYHg/s16000/Screen%20Shot%202022-09-12%20at%205.59.15%20PM.png" /></a></div><br /><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;">Incidentally, this effect is exclusive to Disneyland, as WDW and Tokyo have a different kind of centerpiece altogether:</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgqsPZsrt7SueNyZPsr5XV5jkJcqRPY85FX8fs_fZpqN_qOYOi85CPCEzwdA1VnXc1qjPCoN36U9uTp7mMOeRb4gc8Y9dQ0stPK6J0JXKfoRTxUgoyI6nvQtn-YS8vDVyaqQ9FDgXKtWDjo/s815/fruit+table+NOT+at+wdwjpg.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="612" data-original-width="815" height="480" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgqsPZsrt7SueNyZPsr5XV5jkJcqRPY85FX8fs_fZpqN_qOYOi85CPCEzwdA1VnXc1qjPCoN36U9uTp7mMOeRb4gc8Y9dQ0stPK6J0JXKfoRTxUgoyI6nvQtn-YS8vDVyaqQ9FDgXKtWDjo/w640-h480/fruit+table+NOT+at+wdwjpg.jpg" width="640" /></a></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;">Getting back to our discussion about when the effect first appeared . . .<br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"> </div>The "Cheers" footage gives us a latest-possible-date of 1990 for the introduction of the effect (1992 if you prefer the Mark Raymond footage). Those "ghost post" shots supply the earliest date. In two of the photos that show it, the fruit appears to be painted black, which means it's only a mask and the rejuvenating fruit effect was not yet there.<div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"> </div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj4I2quB_Wc4cKD4CE48uJmH66CxsrrKUwFHuoK0ypGdfl4EAFWGpp-221nGiKVdUlA9inBp5-TZXfJtrrafPYcUPkmQovbp5-yAKGX49kcO524gNCh7tTCCBx7UshV4Cv6HnL3ErEOKb9Q/s449/www.png" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="449" data-original-width="403" height="400" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj4I2quB_Wc4cKD4CE48uJmH66CxsrrKUwFHuoK0ypGdfl4EAFWGpp-221nGiKVdUlA9inBp5-TZXfJtrrafPYcUPkmQovbp5-yAKGX49kcO524gNCh7tTCCBx7UshV4Cv6HnL3ErEOKb9Q/w359-h400/www.png" width="359" /></a></div><br /><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjUf6TE7HoS55mg3Xx3yplRNq8Yl4TRpwzMhVIHLYtKyUwY53LsC8c9g8FGGRv7pQxaeOtQHzOesI7c3c5dWd_9YMhWNAkoTCpcABTu9ODH2nVcIxGLIyKff7qn818klpn1qQPl79-QvBEh/s429/xxx.png" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="429" data-original-width="400" height="400" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjUf6TE7HoS55mg3Xx3yplRNq8Yl4TRpwzMhVIHLYtKyUwY53LsC8c9g8FGGRv7pQxaeOtQHzOesI7c3c5dWd_9YMhWNAkoTCpcABTu9ODH2nVcIxGLIyKff7qn818klpn1qQPl79-QvBEh/w373-h400/xxx.png" width="373" /></a></div><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;">That second photo was probably taken in 1986, and it's interesting because the photographer has actually scooted the thing back because it was blocking the "toaster" ghost. Hence, the centerpiece does not line up well, and that enables us to see in the reflection that the fruit is just as black as the post itself. However, in the third "ghost post" shot the fruit is colorful, which indicates that the effect was put in <i>before</i> they switched to the fuller-foliage centerpiece, so the two things do not precisely coincide.<br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"> </div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjOgSfk-yxfcMP5w07X-9YjKLiBoPgN6bi38mmMrCgvdDrew50HD_QIeVzpKAVv1JMMhot8GRvmBURAodQ83I7RdUBhpQTIoT-lBb30i2SsjYOIQIY9LvRmKSFKYXgHm11q8cGa3ojIFZBq/s346/yyy.png" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="346" data-original-width="259" height="400" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjOgSfk-yxfcMP5w07X-9YjKLiBoPgN6bi38mmMrCgvdDrew50HD_QIeVzpKAVv1JMMhot8GRvmBURAodQ83I7RdUBhpQTIoT-lBb30i2SsjYOIQIY9LvRmKSFKYXgHm11q8cGa3ojIFZBq/w300-h400/yyy.png" width="300" /></a></div><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;">Perhaps the look of the thing when it was first tried out triggered the change. They may have decided that the effect was okay, but it would look better if more of the centerpiece was magically transformed.</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"> </div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><span style="font-size: medium;">To sum up, I think the fruit effect was introduced between 1986 and 1990.</span><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"> </div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><span style="color: #93c47d;"><span style="font-size: x-large;">Disneyland Only</span></span><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"> </div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;">Since the Cold Air blast and the billowing drapes (easily visible in both doorways) are functioning just fine at WDW (and Tokyo, one must assume), and since the Traveling Light effect at those Mansions is quite noticeable when it is working, and since there is no fruit bowl in those ballrooms, our results here apply ONLY to Anaheim, and the "least-noticed effect" at those other locations is going to be something other than any of the four discussed here. Those with more direct experience of those rides than I do should answer that question. The outdoor wolf howl, perhaps? The whispering gargoyles?<br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;">If some of the preceding seemed tedious to any of you, bear in mind that part of our job around here is to point out things in the HM that are easily missed, and in this case we have something that has hardly been talked about at all, so some of it is bound to be a bit dry. The fun thing about the fruit bowl is that now you frequent Anaheim visitors have something new to check out each time you go. We all like to know when things disappear and reappear in the Haunted Mansion, right?</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><span style="color: #ff00fe; font-size: large;">*</span><i><span style="color: #6fa8dc;">For the record, I've examined videos for every year from 2007 to the present. Before that, it's '04, '02, '01, '00, '99, '92, 90, and '74. There are plenty of videos from that earlier time frame, and I've looked at a lot them too, but in them you can't see anything on the table.<br /></span></i></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><i><span style="color: #9fc5e8;"><br /></span></i></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><span><i><span style="color: #6fa8dc;">If you don't understand what all the "mask" talk is about, hopefully this will help. Without a blackened figure to reflect in the glass, lined up with the real item out there, anything passing behind that item will be seen through it, ruining the illusion. That's why the ghost on the mantelpiece has his arm around a blackened duplicate of the "Aunt Lucrecia" bust. Without it, you'd see his arm through the bust and the illusion that he has it around her shoulders (and therefore out of sight) would be gone.</span></i></span></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><span style="color: #9fc5e8;"><i><br /></i></span></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><i><br /></i></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><span style="color: #cc0000; font-size: x-large;">********************</span></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><span style="color: #cc0000; font-size: x-large;"><br /></span></div></div>HBG2http://www.blogger.com/profile/05073387557562504315noreply@blogger.com27tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4444762441887107389.post-13713716255893364292021-05-09T14:13:00.006-07:002021-05-12T16:56:48.352-07:00"Regions Beyond" Identified!<p><span style="color: #cccccc; font-size: medium;">They're in . . . <b>Czechoslovakia</b>. </span><span style="color: #cccccc;">You're welcome.</span></p><p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #cccccc; font-size: medium;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(204, 204, 204);">Or, they <i>might</i> be in Czechoslovakia. Or <i>could</i> be. There's a non-zero chance that they are.</span></span></p><p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #cccccc; font-size: medium;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(204, 204, 204);"><span style="color: #ffe599;">(There's also a chance they're in Jeannie's bottle.)</span><br /></span></span></p><p><span style="color: #cccccc;"></span></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><span style="color: #cccccc;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgrQrcUm3xUY9T5TCKxtJ6EGK47Nxe6M7kPUeiljRuFwpQeijpmJB5CNlcZ3E9sR6mvTCus6SOhAJ1HQvUzSXP-6Eo41mTJ3_9xM35cREngmN1C9Kl3Y-vZbT-VVXch35Bmgun7sQYVdKke/s797/davis+quartel+copy.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="556" data-original-width="797" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgrQrcUm3xUY9T5TCKxtJ6EGK47Nxe6M7kPUeiljRuFwpQeijpmJB5CNlcZ3E9sR6mvTCus6SOhAJ1HQvUzSXP-6Eo41mTJ3_9xM35cREngmN1C9Kl3Y-vZbT-VVXch35Bmgun7sQYVdKke/s16000/davis+quartel+copy.jpg" /></a></span></div><p><span style="color: #cccccc;"> </span></p><p><span style="color: #cccccc;"><span style="color: #93c47d;"><span style="font-size: large;">Theory #1: Dvorak </span></span><br /></span></p><p></p><p><span style="color: #cccccc;">We dedicated a <a href="https://longforgottenhauntedmansion.blogspot.com/2010/08/when-spooks-have-midnight-jamboree.html" target="_blank">(very popular) post</a> to the musical roots of "Grim Grinning Ghosts" some years back, but it all had to do with the history of comic ghost songs, with the <i>genre</i>, in other words, and the results were fascinating. We did not try to find possible inspiration for the <i>melody itself</i>. In fact, nobody has, to my knowledge. Barring the discovery of a document somewhere in which Buddy Baker declares that this or that piece of music inspired his tune, we are not likely to ever establish such influences with anything close to certainty. But that doesn't mean we can't search for possibilities, or maybe even <i>plausibilities</i>, right? I mean, what else is there to do?<br /></span></p><p><span style="color: #cccccc;"></span></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjrH5UjKJdveqHie8neSbMIKtHU3zzSHiwZmzwz0y7VTedOnrFfEi6ZmOpOeGkMKCj399i84KU6Gp53bGP9hIhqS6wVt7pxI6-sovyYWePLPkCpdJpU6MsNEojhZh93cMiLvbfZ68oSD1N1/s550/gloria03.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="550" data-original-width="437" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjrH5UjKJdveqHie8neSbMIKtHU3zzSHiwZmzwz0y7VTedOnrFfEi6ZmOpOeGkMKCj399i84KU6Gp53bGP9hIhqS6wVt7pxI6-sovyYWePLPkCpdJpU6MsNEojhZh93cMiLvbfZ68oSD1N1/s16000/gloria03.jpg" /></a></div> <div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg7hVHZowGzHCUplqNBGKwZJlBfffmCp2hSvZl1M3hf29nHSGqLUM6EohDDJqM79_whO_8a6YgI7xy-GrGWyu5xLufAir-SfKbwc5GJ2oHdkyXwRBrOB0qjzPVipyOY7kPxeDJi4U_HeL-i/s574/Screen+Shot+2021-05-06+at+6.55.26+PM.png" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="574" data-original-width="574" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg7hVHZowGzHCUplqNBGKwZJlBfffmCp2hSvZl1M3hf29nHSGqLUM6EohDDJqM79_whO_8a6YgI7xy-GrGWyu5xLufAir-SfKbwc5GJ2oHdkyXwRBrOB0qjzPVipyOY7kPxeDJi4U_HeL-i/s16000/Screen+Shot+2021-05-06+at+6.55.26+PM.png" /></a></div><p></p><p><span><span style="color: #cccccc;">With all those qualifiers in mind, I think there is indeed one particular piece of music that may have consciously or unconsciously inspired "Grim Grinning Ghosts": Dvorak's </span><span style="color: #3d85c6;"><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symphonic_Variations_(Dvo%C5%99%C3%A1k)" target="_blank"><i>Symphonic Variations</i></a><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symphonic_Variations_(Dvo%C5%99%C3%A1k)" target="_blank"> <span><i>for Large Orchestra</i>, Opus 78</span></a></span><span style="color: #cccccc;"> (1877).</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #cccccc;"><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anton%C3%ADn_Dvořák" target="_blank">Antonin Dvorak</a> (1841-1904) was a Czechoslovakian composer who enjoyed great success during his lifetime, a refreshing change from all those, you know, "He died a penniless alcoholic" stories we've almost come to expect when it comes to great artists.</span></p><p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #cccccc;">He reminds me a little of Orson Welles...<br /></span></p><p><span style="color: #cccccc;"></span></p><p></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhwleQsksf9G2XjvXgPbUse3xAagWc4EMtjnMW8ogCOuZS2668l7rubBK2DsRcYug3fa3i9p0SivqBSORmOMmQNKkKrDj3unhvh8O3mQ9kddiISSWTfvZvmrIHbHFRi08GK_1cWAAirSv1c/s1023/iu.jpeg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="1023" data-original-width="1000" height="640" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhwleQsksf9G2XjvXgPbUse3xAagWc4EMtjnMW8ogCOuZS2668l7rubBK2DsRcYug3fa3i9p0SivqBSORmOMmQNKkKrDj3unhvh8O3mQ9kddiISSWTfvZvmrIHbHFRi08GK_1cWAAirSv1c/w626-h640/iu.jpeg" width="626" /> </a></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"> </div><span style="color: #cccccc;">The story goes that a friend challenged him to incorporate musical themes into a symphony that ordinarily would have been thought impossible to adapt to such a genre. His <i>Symphonic Variations </i>was the result, successfully incorporating things like Moravian folk tunes. No problem, it turned out.<br /></span><p></p><p><span style="color: #cccccc;">Opus #78 in the series is built around a short musical phrase, the first part of which sounds exactly like the first notes of "Grim Grinning Ghosts." You have to wonder whether echoes of this piece were bouncing around somewhere inside Buddy Baker's head when he composed his immortal tune. (Yes, that's right, you have to wonder. If you don't wonder we'll have to send someone over there with a stick.) Wonder away, because we'll never know. <span style="font-size: small;">The musical phrase in question is especially noticeable during the first few minutes of <i>Symphonic Variations</i> 78.<br /></span></span></p><p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #cccccc; font-size: medium;">Go ahead and give it a listen. </span></p><p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #cccccc;"></span></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><span style="color: #cccccc;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjafg6on0t5difRNG8LsPB3pPmoEtbSYbq7_bSAlWCD5b1AbSCcZOLuiQAQAogdRyvgt-gJqRHsEppHGGOF56TXgS6BfTeQx-J7RZ1E0buIOscuwBR4Y434ioiRrNqEi0bQx-jnOQwd2v1m/s853/Screen+Shot+2021-05-06+at+6.19.44+PM.png" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="819" data-original-width="853" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjafg6on0t5difRNG8LsPB3pPmoEtbSYbq7_bSAlWCD5b1AbSCcZOLuiQAQAogdRyvgt-gJqRHsEppHGGOF56TXgS6BfTeQx-J7RZ1E0buIOscuwBR4Y434ioiRrNqEi0bQx-jnOQwd2v1m/s16000/Screen+Shot+2021-05-06+at+6.19.44+PM.png" /></a><span style="color: #cccccc;"> </span></span></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><span style="color: #cccccc;"><span style="color: #cccccc;"><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="color: #fce5cd;">The opening movement:</span></span><br /></span></span></div><p></p><p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #cccccc;"><iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="30" mozallowfullscreen="true" src="https://archive.org/embed/short-dvorak" webkitallowfullscreen="true" width="500"></iframe><br /></span></p><p></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"></div><p style="text-align: center;"> <span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="color: #fce5cd;">Or if you want to hear the entire thing: </span></span><br /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p style="text-align: center;"><iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="30" mozallowfullscreen="true" src="https://archive.org/embed/dvorak-symphvars-op-78" webkitallowfullscreen="true" width="500"></iframe></p><p><span style="color: #cccccc;"> </span></p><p><span style="color: #cccccc;"><span style="font-size: large;"><span style="color: #93c47d;">Theory #2: Jeannie</span></span><br /></span></p><p style="text-align: center;"><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="color: #ffd966;">Reader "Anonymous" points us to a performance by Barbara Eden in 1967, singing a song called "Beautiful Things" (an old <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGaaPJAfxD8" target="_blank">Bobby Darin</a> number). This tune is also vaguely suggestive of GGG. And if it's not, well, I wasted your time making you stare at 1967 Barbara Eden for a minute or two. Sue me.</span></span><br /></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><iframe allowfullscreen='allowfullscreen' webkitallowfullscreen='webkitallowfullscreen' mozallowfullscreen='mozallowfullscreen' width='320' height='266' src='https://www.blogger.com/video.g?token=AD6v5dzaYVAAUfO-2P3KA-ht8kUliFacpShjN0xodg_j4r2BfHvV4cUlA7avU95dXsIldCJNl1QynrLzwJQ2W3atdg' class='b-hbp-video b-uploaded' frameborder='0'></iframe></div><span style="color: #ffd966;"><span style="font-size: medium;">The consensus seems to be that in such cases we are dealing with pure coincidence, and I have no quarrel with that, provided the window is open a crack to allow for a "just possibly not" in the equation.</span></span><p style="text-align: center;"> <span style="color: #f6b26b;"><span style="font-size: x-large;">*****************</span></span></p><p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #f6b26b;"><span style="font-size: x-large;"> </span></span></p><p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #f6b26b;"><span style="font-size: x-large;"> </span></span><br /></p>HBG2http://www.blogger.com/profile/05073387557562504315noreply@blogger.com15tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4444762441887107389.post-2107874383717008872021-04-23T09:58:00.010-07:002021-07-28T15:50:07.453-07:00Our Elevendieth Year and Other Anniversaries (Plus: April in April!)<div style="text-align: center;"><br /></div><div style="text-align: left;"><p><span style="color: #cccccc;"><span><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(224, 102, 102);">It's our eleventh anniversary! Pop the corks, and let the <a href="https://www.definitions.net/definition/undecennial" target="_blank">undecennial</a> festivities begin! We're all familiar with "silver," "gold," and "diamond" anniversaries, true? Well, unless I am very much mistaken, the eleventh is the "particle board" anniversary.</span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: #cccccc;"><span><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(224, 102, 102);"> </span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: #cccccc;"><span><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(224, 102, 102);">This is not to say that 2021 is a nothing year as far as Mansion milestones are concerned. Far from it. As some of the gang at "the Thread" have noted, 2021 is a banner year for anniversaries:<br /></span></span></span></span></p><span style="color: #f3f3f3;"></span><span style="color: #e06666; font-size: small;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(224, 102, 102);"><span style="color: red;"><span style="color: #ea9999;"><span style="color: red;"></span> </span></span></span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><ul style="text-align: left;"><li><span style="color: #e06666; font-size: small;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(224, 102, 102);"><span style="color: red;"><span style="color: #ea9999;"><span style="font-size: large;"><span style="color: red;">50th</span> </span></span></span></span></span><span style="color: #e06666; font-size: small;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(224, 102, 102);"><span style="color: red;"><span style="color: #ea9999;">anniversary of the Walt Disney World Haunted Mansion</span></span></span></span></li><li><span style="color: #e06666; font-size: small;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(224, 102, 102);"><span style="color: red;"><span style="color: #ea9999;"><span style="font-size: large;"><span style="color: red;">20th</span></span> anniversary of the Nightmare Before Christmas/Haunted Mansion Holiday overlay <br /></span></span></span></span></li><li><span style="color: #e06666; font-size: small;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(224, 102, 102);"><span style="color: red;"><span style="color: #ea9999;"><span style="color: red;"><span style="font-size: large;">15th</span></span> </span></span></span></span><span style="color: #e06666; font-size: small;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(224, 102, 102);"><span style="color: red;"><span style="color: #ea9999;"><span style="font-size: large;"><span style="font-size: small;">anniversary of the original Long-Forgotten Haunted Mansion thread at Micechat</span></span></span></span></span></span></li><li><span style="color: #e06666; font-size: small;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(224, 102, 102);"><span style="color: red;"><span style="color: #ea9999;"></span></span></span></span><span style="color: #e06666; font-size: small;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(224, 102, 102);"><span style="color: red;"><span style="color: #ea9999;"><span style="font-size: large;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #e06666; font-size: small;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(224, 102, 102);"><span style="color: red;"><span style="font-size: large;">15th</span> <span style="color: #ea9999;">anniversary of Constance Hatchaway's debut</span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></li><li><span style="color: #e06666; font-size: small;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(224, 102, 102);"><span style="color: red;"><span style="font-size: large;">10th</span> <span style="color: #ea9999;">anniversary of the interactive queue and digital hitchhikers at the Orlando attraction</span></span></span></span></li><li><span style="color: #e06666; font-size: small;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(224, 102, 102);"><span style="color: red;"><span style="color: #ea9999;"><span style="color: red;"><span style="font-size: large;">5th</span></span> anniversary of the return of the berm graveyard at Disneyland <br /></span></span></span></span></li></ul></div><div style="text-align: left;"><p><span style="color: #e06666; font-size: small;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(224, 102, 102);"><span style="color: #cccccc;"><span>Mind you, your blog administrator is not necessarily happy with all of those changes. <a href="https://longforgottenhauntedmansion.blogspot.com/2011/05/decadence.html" target="_blank">You</a> ... <a href="https://longforgottenhauntedmansion.blogspot.com/2011/06/beware-of-these-hitchhiking-ghosts.html" target="_blank">know</a> ... <a href="https://longforgottenhauntedmansion.blogspot.com/2010/06/here-comes-bride-part-four-constance.html" target="_blank">he's</a> ... <a href="https://longforgottenhauntedmansion.blogspot.com/2016/10/the-berm-graveyard-rises-from-dead.html" target="_blank">not</a>. But love 'em or hate 'em, they are significant events in the Mansion's history. </span>Too bad the Long-Forgotten blog is off by <i>one measly year</i> and so misses inclusion on that impressive quinquennial list. But, <i>*sniff*</i> the same can be said of Phantom Manor (29 years), the attic Pianist (26 years), Doombuggies.com (24 years), the "Rehaunting" of the WDW HM (14 years), and </span></span></span><span style="color: #e06666; font-size: small;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(224, 102, 102);"><span style="color: #cccccc;">the new Hatbox Ghost (6 years).</span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: #e06666; font-size: small;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(224, 102, 102);"><span style="color: #cccccc;"> </span><br /></span></span></p><p><span style="color: #e06666; font-size: small;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(224, 102, 102);"><span style="color: #93c47d;"><span style="font-size: large;">May April March?</span></span> <br /></span></span></p><p><span style="color: #cccccc;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(224, 102, 102);">So now we have another item to add to that column: the return of April-December after an absence of seventeen years, plus about half a dozen lesser "enhancements." What shall we call this cluster? When the WDW was spruced up and received a set of new and improved effects in 2007, the clever collective name for it was the "Rehaunting" of the Florida HM. For the new changes to the Anaheim attraction, the only buzzword WDI seems to be throwing around so far is "enhancements."</span></span></span></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><span style="color: #e06666; font-size: small;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(224, 102, 102);"><iframe allowfullscreen='allowfullscreen' webkitallowfullscreen='webkitallowfullscreen' mozallowfullscreen='mozallowfullscreen' width='546' height='455' src='https://www.blogger.com/video.g?token=AD6v5dyq79RCeDT0Z8OF96YNVU4mbq_q8-hma8n1m_RNz1qkB052F397XCzLkrtWntNrNuvxd0kzo_DniAvpU_Q9hg' class='b-hbp-video b-uploaded' frameborder='0'></iframe></span></span></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(224, 102, 102); color: #cccccc; text-align: left;">I realize that most, if not all, of this blog's readers have already heard the news and seen that video. It makes for an awkward situation in that I can hardly pass by this announcement in silence while I kick back and salute our undecennial,</span><span style="caret-color: rgb(224, 102, 102); color: #e06666; text-align: left;"> </span><span style="caret-color: rgb(224, 102, 102); color: #cccccc; text-align: left;">but as I write, the return of April has only been announced, not witnessed, because the park won't reopen for another week or so. I will have more to say once first-hand reports start coming in. Plus, I'm planning on a DL trip in July, so I'll have my own observations. Eventually some old blog posts will need updating, but for now, I'll restrict myself to some remarks on the return of April-December as far as it can be observed in the materials currently out there, ignoring for now the other "enhancements," most of which are pretty sketchy at present.</span></div><p><span style="color: #e06666; font-size: small;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(224, 102, 102);"><span style="color: #cccccc;"><br /></span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: #e06666; font-size: small;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(224, 102, 102);"><span style="color: #cccccc;"><span style="color: #93c47d;"><span style="font-size: large;">March, April May!</span></span><br /></span></span></span></p><span style="color: #cccccc;">
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<span style="color: #cccccc;"><span style="font-size: xx-small;"><span style="font-size: small;">Yes, <i>march April may</i>. In other words, if the pictures and videos can be trusted, Miss April will now be permitted to once again strut her stuff. The team responsible for the new April, led by Michele Hobbs, is to be warmly congratulated for their tasteful restraint and their respect for the prototype. The much-coveted Long-Forgotten seal of approval is hereby bestowed. As was the case with the new Hatbox Ghost in 2015, any temptation to overdo the new April-December appears to have been successfully resisted. April looks exactly as she did when she left us, except that she morphs through all six stages as originally painted by Ed Koch, not just two:</span></span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span style="color: #e06666; font-size: xx-small;"><span style="font-size: small;"> <div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhI1E2NmMg7rH0aGXNiIklXtdfJ0Kris8ESX1VDLoLcP9Trf1zXBPZvAO9jNZEthbuu1mNcehR08a7Fxb_Ux0Gm4pzxzK3tfqC2fHFYNi3VlSc-1_trpOnRITZyuYSWGi0szdiTP-phg8OA/s800/unnamed.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="712" data-original-width="800" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhI1E2NmMg7rH0aGXNiIklXtdfJ0Kris8ESX1VDLoLcP9Trf1zXBPZvAO9jNZEthbuu1mNcehR08a7Fxb_Ux0Gm4pzxzK3tfqC2fHFYNi3VlSc-1_trpOnRITZyuYSWGi0szdiTP-phg8OA/s16000/unnamed.jpg" /></a></div><br /></span><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="color: #cccccc;"><a href="https://longforgottenhauntedmansion.blogspot.com/2012/11/do-you-remember-miss-april-december.html" target="_blank">You will recall</a> that "April" and "December" originally flashed back and forth with the lightning (i.e. two images), but at a very early date the effect went to a slow morph. There exists some remarkably good video of her from 1989, just twenty years into the ride's existence:</span></span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><iframe allowfullscreen='allowfullscreen' webkitallowfullscreen='webkitallowfullscreen' mozallowfullscreen='mozallowfullscreen' width='565' height='470' src='https://www.blogger.com/video.g?token=AD6v5dx--coT3HDdBHTJ3affF2FbPBrwJGdjLeo3k4FGheQBX7e5Rf-hEfXa1dafYQle_srXKrSU35NTFxfj3goLjA' class='b-hbp-video b-uploaded' frameborder='0'></iframe></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><div><span style="color: #cccccc; font-size: x-small;"><span><span> <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAmLO2gRgbk" target="_blank">Sm1thFam1lyV1deos</a></span></span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span style="color: #cccccc;"> </span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span style="color: #cccccc;">That two-panel set was the only version ever used in the ride, but it has long been common Mansionological knowledge that Marc Davis originally conceived the effect with<i> four </i>panels. It was not until November of 2015, <a href="https://longforgottenhauntedmansion.blogspot.com/2015/11/the-changing-portrait-hall-that-never.html" target="_blank">when the above slide set came to light</a>, that we learned that Marc's four was expanded to six and came <i>very</i> close to actually being used that way, morphing through the whole series. It appears to be the case that the new April reproduces exactly this full set, looking much like she would have looked if she had materialized in accordance with plans still in effect mere months away from opening day in 1969.</span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span style="color: #cccccc;"><br /></span></div></div></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span style="color: #e06666; font-size: xx-small;"><span style="color: #cccccc;"><span style="font-size: small;">Granted, the new team's conservatism may have been more than simply a matter of respect for the original. If they had gotten cute and April had been singing and dancing and blowing bubbles, she would have created a slowdown in the line at that point. As it is, the full effect can be appreciated in a matter of a few seconds and shouldn't cause any traffic jams.</span></span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span style="color: #e06666; font-size: xx-small;"><span style="color: #cccccc;"><span style="font-size: small;"> </span></span></span></div><div style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #e06666; font-size: xx-small;"><span style="color: #cccccc;"><span style="font-size: small;">The setting for the New April is a new hallway cleverly carved out of one side of the Limbo Load area:</span></span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span style="color: #e06666; font-size: xx-small;"><span style="color: #cccccc;"><span style="font-size: small;"> </span></span></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span style="color: #e06666; font-size: xx-small;"><span style="color: #cccccc;"><span style="font-size: small;"><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEh11_XkjKynxFiFtx_YFUsRclHAMrLZ_fCVdW9CNKY-3PkccHJ8T-y0NBPWkMNJ-jbZgif407pOlm2P7LV177TdmrJA9ZnznTcQLCB6QlJzLL9y7cuyrjrqkePo8h2p54U34Kt3hDzQ9iFD/s790/angle+shot.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; 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The urns are now collected together by the staircase.</span><span style="color: #e06666;">]</span></div><div style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #e06666;"><br /></span></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgKlFaCx-XtKXH3PlD80X9o5_DE_VW3HqP44TQMAAfXJ-kd-H74yv-I3n9snJcqyalBbIwcYHIRkQztYSWYYVrtObx0190HP-gPtLrEdQMfno2fKF3jQS0N9i9CZcGFDkfIiC3Ic4Z1gdQk/s771/urns.png" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="470" data-original-width="771" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgKlFaCx-XtKXH3PlD80X9o5_DE_VW3HqP44TQMAAfXJ-kd-H74yv-I3n9snJcqyalBbIwcYHIRkQztYSWYYVrtObx0190HP-gPtLrEdQMfno2fKF3jQS0N9i9CZcGFDkfIiC3Ic4Z1gdQk/s16000/urns.png" /></a></div><br /><div style="text-align: center;"><br /></div><div style="text-align: center;"><br /></div><div style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #cccccc;">The folding metal screen on the left reminds me of a 2011 sketch</span></div><div style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #cccccc;">by "WDITrent," concerning which I have little information:</span></div><div style="text-align: left;"> </div><div style="text-align: left;"><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEi6ZwPmYMduuZMHH2eLfU1R4vwckFAZC5iSmahrX3uIOABwQpYTE671leJc7dgqZH3DV6HGNztHbR00YnyzakbPEaQSOeaxEZULpgeElGLzM3f0ki4Ok_pW-04ImB9OsuaAHRmvv1rUrn7_/s1024/WDITrent+concept+5603002887_d49f6d4e3e_b+copy.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="768" data-original-width="1024" height="480" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEi6ZwPmYMduuZMHH2eLfU1R4vwckFAZC5iSmahrX3uIOABwQpYTE671leJc7dgqZH3DV6HGNztHbR00YnyzakbPEaQSOeaxEZULpgeElGLzM3f0ki4Ok_pW-04ImB9OsuaAHRmvv1rUrn7_/w640-h480/WDITrent+concept+5603002887_d49f6d4e3e_b+copy.jpg" width="640" /></a></div><br /></div><div style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #cccccc;">There are some among us who think that they may be trying to capture some of the beautiful</span></div><div style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #cccccc;">and mysterious indoor/outdoor ambiguity seen in this famous Claude Coats concept sketch:</span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEi8sUo1O5QfrkEU6WN4CHYQ76rjuXM-3tncN8avAFWmE4vvwmGA9BkSfmYuUTWZE9bvrj-_Aye80wBe9xCCqs_hMXLJ6qwj2XgsgrcFges-pDKIiI87EHsb35VkRzJbUQeACuDxNgN3PtWh/s800/coats.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="515" data-original-width="800" height="412" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEi8sUo1O5QfrkEU6WN4CHYQ76rjuXM-3tncN8avAFWmE4vvwmGA9BkSfmYuUTWZE9bvrj-_Aye80wBe9xCCqs_hMXLJ6qwj2XgsgrcFges-pDKIiI87EHsb35VkRzJbUQeACuDxNgN3PtWh/w640-h412/coats.jpg" width="640" /></a></div><br /><div style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #cccccc;">That's all for now. 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<span style="font-size: x-large;"><br /><br /></span></div></div><br /><br />HBG2http://www.blogger.com/profile/05073387557562504315noreply@blogger.com12tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4444762441887107389.post-62817020542846614662021-04-13T14:53:00.000-07:002021-04-13T14:53:23.022-07:00Penn & Teller on the Haunted Mansion (except for Penn)<p><span style="caret-color: rgb(238, 238, 238); color: #eeeeee; font-family: verdana;">Everyone knows about </span><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penn_%26_Teller" style="caret-color: rgb(238, 238, 238); font-family: verdana;">Penn & Teller</a><span style="caret-color: rgb(238, 238, 238); color: #eeeeee; font-family: verdana;">, I trust. The quieter half of the magical duo is Raymond Teller, and you may be interested to know that he is one of us:</span></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><p style="font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; margin: 0px; text-align: justify;"><span style="-webkit-font-kerning: none;"><span style="color: #ffe599; font-family: arial; font-size: x-large;"><i>"As you might imagine, I'm a long-standing fan of the Haunted Mansion, mainly because it contains such beautiful use of the classic Peppers Ghost in the ballroom scene. In fact, this version is even more classic than that. It harks back to Dircks, who actually invented the principle in 1858. The very idea that the lame amusement park Spook House, with its air-jets to blow up girl's skirts, could become such a work of art just thrills me.”</i></span></span></p><p style="font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; margin: 0px; text-align: justify;"><span style="-webkit-font-kerning: none;"><span style="color: #eeeeee; font-family: arial; font-size: x-small;"><i><br /></i></span></span></p><p style="font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; margin: 0px; text-align: justify;"><span style="font-size: x-small;"><span style="-webkit-font-kerning: none;"></span></span></p><p style="font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; margin: 0px; text-align: right;"><span style="-webkit-font-kerning: none;"><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="color: #262626; font-family: "Times New Roman"; white-space: pre;"><span style="font-size: x-small;"> </span></span><span style="color: #eeeeee; font-family: arial;">From Carlene Thie, <i>Homecoming Destination Disneyland</i> (Riverside, CA: Ape Penn Publishing LLC, 2005), p. 108.</span></span></p></div><br /><div style="text-align: center;"><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEivrjIfjOhG6GiYy-pIKLMUf81ZGpX8qV4Bbn5HLxxjhLtnOhIsmrx7C438FGk37W8V7WvIF2tizQlq1gRDWHNTbAo1ZLHHR_SF4B9sgtSRMWeoxeqngQgHf-aUFA4pnan_soaUtAPG4AE1/s618/teller.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="410" data-original-width="618" height="424" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEivrjIfjOhG6GiYy-pIKLMUf81ZGpX8qV4Bbn5HLxxjhLtnOhIsmrx7C438FGk37W8V7WvIF2tizQlq1gRDWHNTbAo1ZLHHR_SF4B9sgtSRMWeoxeqngQgHf-aUFA4pnan_soaUtAPG4AE1/w640-h424/teller.jpg" width="640" /></a></div></div><div style="text-align: center;"><p style="font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; margin: 0px;"><span style="-webkit-font-kerning: none;"><span style="color: #262626; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: xx-small;"> </span><span style="color: #eeeeee; font-family: arial;">AP</span></span></p></div><div style="text-align: center;"><br /></div><span style="caret-color: rgb(238, 238, 238); color: #eeeeee; font-family: verdana;">And just WHAT, pray tell, is wrong with air-jets up girls' skirts? Here, at least, we'll just have to agree to disagree. Anyway, Teller is correct that <a href="https://mysteriousuniverse.org/2019/09/the-curious-tale-of-the-man-who-made-ghosts/">Henry Dircks </a>was actually the man who rediscovered what is called the "Peppers Ghost" effect. (I say <b><i>re-</i></b>discovered, because the illusion had been around for centuries.) He didn't have the money or the know-how to successfully market the trick, but John Henry Pepper saw Dircks' effect, and he DID know how. He figured out a cheaper and simpler way of achieving the effect and actually partnered with Dircks. "Pepper," however, is the name that stuck, so he gets the credit that probably should belong to Dircks. Since both of them have "Henry" in their name, maybe it should have been called "Henrys Ghost." But who said life has to be fair, or even make sense?</span><div><span style="color: #eeeeee; font-family: verdana;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(238, 238, 238);"><br /></span></span><div><span style="color: #eeeeee; font-family: verdana;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(238, 238, 238);"><br /></span></span><div style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #a64d79; font-size: x-large;">**************</span></div><div><span style="color: #a64d79; font-size: x-large;"><br /></span></div></div></div>HBG2http://www.blogger.com/profile/05073387557562504315noreply@blogger.com5tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4444762441887107389.post-70838395854767979262020-11-08T15:52:00.005-08:002020-11-11T14:08:46.391-08:00To Find a Way Out, or Maybe Two or Three<div style="text-align: left;"> <span style="color: #20124d; font-size: xx-small;">.</span></div><div style="text-align: left;">This is yet another sequel to one of my favorite posts here at Long-Forgotten. To really appreciate what we've got here, you should probably refresh your memory by taking a stroll down memory lane <a href="https://longforgottenhauntedmansion.blogspot.com/2013/01/to-find-way-out.html" target="_blank">HERE</a> and <a href="https://longforgottenhauntedmansion.blogspot.com/2012/02/lost-graveyard.html" target="_blank">HERE</a>. The discoveries made here required an updating of the original "To Find a Way Out" post.</div><p>A few years back, retired Imagineer and now Disney historian Tom Morris uncovered something truly long forgotten and presented it as part of his lecture tours in 2019. Tom was kind enough to share with me further details and photos pertinent to the subject at hand, so I and you owe Tom a note of thanks.</p><p>When they started pouring the concrete for the façade building of the Disneyland Haunted Mansion in 1962, they naturally poured the foundational, perimeter walls in accordance with what they thought at the time the attraction was going to be, which was a twin walk-thru. As we know, the two elevators were for two back-to-back, essentially identical walk-thru adventures, at the end of which guests would ascend a set of steps to an enclosed graveyard area, where they could look around among the tombs and stuff for awhile before exiting through turnstiles.</p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEikJmp8jjz4qOIECobUxQjPOulTiropJNhu0VDSR0DIqzDn4OhzoSRcrbBNck-G-eRsmVMgKSsh_IaGYeuL3GA_WnAWJpYb-H2OOP4Lq6YZJtle23knnfRw09UgIA1r2bfP5c1zgN1Q4hSA/s711/unnamed.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="460" data-original-width="711" height="414" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEikJmp8jjz4qOIECobUxQjPOulTiropJNhu0VDSR0DIqzDn4OhzoSRcrbBNck-G-eRsmVMgKSsh_IaGYeuL3GA_WnAWJpYb-H2OOP4Lq6YZJtle23knnfRw09UgIA1r2bfP5c1zgN1Q4hSA/w640-h414/unnamed.jpg" width="640" /></a></div><div style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #b4a7d6;">1965</span></div><p style="text-align: center;">The two enclosed areas eventually became a queue area on the south side . . . </p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://hosting.photobucket.com/albums/y32/danolson/HM%202/.highres/DSC09367Large.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="535" data-original-width="800" src="https://hosting.photobucket.com/albums/y32/danolson/HM%202/.highres/DSC09367Large.jpg" /></a></div><div style="text-align: left;"><br /></div><div style="text-align: left;"><div style="text-align: center;">. . . and the exit complex of mausoleums on the north side. <span style="text-align: left;">The original walk-thru</span></div><div style="text-align: center;"><span style="text-align: left;">exits </span><span style="text-align: left;">became the </span><span style="text-align: left;">"chicken exit" on the south side and an emergency exit on the north.</span></div><div style="text-align: center;">Most of you knew all of that. And if you didn't, you did after reviewing those old posts.</div></div><div style="text-align: left;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://hosting.photobucket.com/albums/y32/danolson/HM%202/.highres/aaaa-16.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="490" data-original-width="650" src="https://hosting.photobucket.com/albums/y32/danolson/HM%202/.highres/aaaa-16.jpg" /></a></div><br /><p>What you may not have known is that in 1961 they were still playing around with several options for getting folks up from the basement level and into the graveyard spill areas on either side. At the time they poured the foundational walls they thought they might have THREE exits on each side. In this photo, looking across the railroad trestle that will eventually be a tunnel covered in earth, transformed into the berm behind the house, you can see two openings in addition to the main opening, the one that eventually led to the "chicken exit" in the graveyard. (That one is boarded up in this shot.)</p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg8HiUOcghFc307VZ7pTQXyXueoFyK26W0zU5d4KD4NYMo3YDLrpQHamjMw56y6aNUUFUpff5yf6f_mMdj4wPrPxrjz1UkPZbRjnZa0fsTHKXSzRuIAnZTbmPYQ9qYWXrjNZX5BaS4dWQ0r/s1132/rrshot.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="644" data-original-width="1132" height="364" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg8HiUOcghFc307VZ7pTQXyXueoFyK26W0zU5d4KD4NYMo3YDLrpQHamjMw56y6aNUUFUpff5yf6f_mMdj4wPrPxrjz1UkPZbRjnZa0fsTHKXSzRuIAnZTbmPYQ9qYWXrjNZX5BaS4dWQ0r/w640-h364/rrshot.jpg" width="640" /></a></div><div style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #76a5af;"><i>"The 'E'-Ticket"</i> 16 (Summer 1993) 32</span></div><div><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiNll_67ictOy46jvKHnXKLRldFR2g0Iif9xYPMwDVfJFZUoQX7upHmrhyphenhyphensPTeISWO-5YXZ_uW-or07_sRxuOt-ZbKWQne7gko5fVWRSn4D1uQ3cGEt3TzLYUAuUPn5lF_kjrbcjI_13dh4/s767/flower.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="767" data-original-width="739" height="640" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiNll_67ictOy46jvKHnXKLRldFR2g0Iif9xYPMwDVfJFZUoQX7upHmrhyphenhyphensPTeISWO-5YXZ_uW-or07_sRxuOt-ZbKWQne7gko5fVWRSn4D1uQ3cGEt3TzLYUAuUPn5lF_kjrbcjI_13dh4/w617-h640/flower.jpg" width="617" /></a></div><div><br /></div><div style="text-align: center;">The three staircases beneath the house are visible in this blueprint,</div><div style="text-align: center;">which apparently shows only the exits for the southern graveyard.</div><div><br /><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;">Those were put there because at the time they thought they might have guests finish the tour in a large room beneath the house, where the Ghost Host would taunt them about "finding a way out," a line that became infamous when it ended up as part of the stretchroom spiel. According to a 1961 "Haunted House Show Outline," after the GH leads the audience into the basement area, he says:</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><span style="color: #e69138;"><i>"Now you are on your way out . . . Here's your way out . . . </i></span><i style="color: #e69138;">I found the way out . . .</i></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><i style="color: #e69138;">This way out . . . All paths lead to the same end. Ha! ha! ha!"</i></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;">The outline then continues:</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><span style="color: #bf9000;">Voice shows the audience way out thru one positive central control exit. Audience is now free to find their own way out. Secondary exits from main control exit carries audience up thru graves, crypts and vaults to outdoor cemetery. This area is to be walled in and not seen by public at Disneyland. Area for final exit turnstiles in cemetery wall.</span></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"> </div>Um . . . that's not exactly crystal clear. What would happen is that the guests would find three doorways to choose from. The impression I get from the spiel is that the GH's voice would switch from one speaker to another, over each doorway. It didn't matter which one you picked, because all three had stairways going up to the enclosed cemetery, and that's why they left openings for three entrances in the perimeter walls. <i>These stairways are actually drawn in on some blueprints</i>. I've traced some sketches directly from those, so trust me, you can take these to the bank.<div><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgO9wgr07yAgY4gqfP-IVU20Ok5xNmsicMYTVpbx-AbDfPW-PJukH48c_Wsh4kCKsekd-LStJWWcXyEbuDdK3AUokzQsN2M-NZ-vq0nMOkwix2un0ddmVXaIn21oCYgNuEzfKuzdMDbKANR/s706/bp+3.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="661" data-original-width="706" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgO9wgr07yAgY4gqfP-IVU20Ok5xNmsicMYTVpbx-AbDfPW-PJukH48c_Wsh4kCKsekd-LStJWWcXyEbuDdK3AUokzQsN2M-NZ-vq0nMOkwix2un0ddmVXaIn21oCYgNuEzfKuzdMDbKANR/s16000/bp+3.jpg" /></a></div><br /><div>This is obviously the north side exit area. Two of the holes (here in teal) were eventually used, of course. The top one was for the speed ramp rather than this plain staircase, and the right side was eventually used just as it is shown here, becoming the emergency exit on that side. The third one, in the corner, never happened, but the hole in the concrete did not get filled in until <i>the spring of 1969!</i></div><div><br /></div><div>The story is much the same on the south side. There was going to be a crypt, a twin to the one on the north side, but instead, what is now the emergency (chicken) exit was made to be flusher with the wall. It's the two staircases that grab our attention. The holes in the wall didn't get filled in until the spring of 1969 either.</div><div><br /><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEinJOoeOQrNt9gvg3f4o9Kd9fbEDG5Bg7WRmjzrzyBMj4wjSoP6E8xp9XRejKyFLxaIG-0d_UyaYrlEmd1bLXPjgfHUca84FvIL8Qyt7K5C0iY8o61-CEHwj_lybBD_-ybbYuxo1EOHNIU5/s792/bp+2.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="642" data-original-width="792" height="518" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEinJOoeOQrNt9gvg3f4o9Kd9fbEDG5Bg7WRmjzrzyBMj4wjSoP6E8xp9XRejKyFLxaIG-0d_UyaYrlEmd1bLXPjgfHUca84FvIL8Qyt7K5C0iY8o61-CEHwj_lybBD_-ybbYuxo1EOHNIU5/w640-h518/bp+2.jpg" width="640" /></a></div><div><br /></div><div style="text-align: center;">The two additional staircases couldn't just pop straight out of the ground like that, of course.</div><div style="text-align: center;">There would have been some appropriate staging for them. Fortunately, they appear in another</div><div style="text-align: center;">blueprint which actually has a few rectangular shapes thrown in, simulating tomb slabs:</div><div style="text-align: center;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg7bMCsxHFFHRxkRW4apMkV8yzpNh_eQuLN6zFG5dGmvTPkPmd0R0SLg1hpxh3K_dJNdHPV_ZOOdNwflBjZE9qTta0o5FEok-HX373umFts5v_UodfIM2Dn4ilGWDQJRuhV30vmY1_gvEI-/s653/north+slabs.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="582" data-original-width="653" height="356" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg7bMCsxHFFHRxkRW4apMkV8yzpNh_eQuLN6zFG5dGmvTPkPmd0R0SLg1hpxh3K_dJNdHPV_ZOOdNwflBjZE9qTta0o5FEok-HX373umFts5v_UodfIM2Dn4ilGWDQJRuhV30vmY1_gvEI-/w400-h356/north+slabs.jpg" width="400" /></a></div><br /><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhOJ1_T8SA5OwOCNCdLlSjzNL7Ri2VC22LX4wXq1OEwa4hXxvfmQh_jVC12SNLUHJB_wdHbpWS7bYaCOz12KssJ_YFGhVuPlxC4gknfYNHp3Qj95451XpoS1Uow8K1cPI4phUs2RTIKYBzM/s799/bp+1.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="580" data-original-width="799" height="464" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhOJ1_T8SA5OwOCNCdLlSjzNL7Ri2VC22LX4wXq1OEwa4hXxvfmQh_jVC12SNLUHJB_wdHbpWS7bYaCOz12KssJ_YFGhVuPlxC4gknfYNHp3Qj95451XpoS1Uow8K1cPI4phUs2RTIKYBzM/w640-h464/bp+1.jpg" width="640" /></a></div><div style="text-align: left;"><br /></div><div style="text-align: left;"><div style="text-align: center;">For the umpteenth time, here is that Duane Alt sketch that shows what they had in mind. Most of</div><div style="text-align: center;">the time this piece of artwork is printed or displayed, the bottom is cropped, which is a pity, since</div><div style="text-align: center;">it is there that you can see how they planned for some of the crypts at ground level to be open.</div></div><div style="text-align: left;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiXMCfudf7iby2vEuPlD4UpUriwiIha6NyAL274KaXCfLOcnSqqJsLdXRHnDOz5Xofay1zdKPetoZ7ojDwd5ddqop1hIOVcguoiwOzD15HvF1rAdPFhqRebq9Vtr9Z3vJB9XkSjYfS5mjs_/s846/++BEST+smallerer.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="473" data-original-width="846" height="358" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiXMCfudf7iby2vEuPlD4UpUriwiIha6NyAL274KaXCfLOcnSqqJsLdXRHnDOz5Xofay1zdKPetoZ7ojDwd5ddqop1hIOVcguoiwOzD15HvF1rAdPFhqRebq9Vtr9Z3vJB9XkSjYfS5mjs_/w640-h358/++BEST+smallerer.jpg" width="640" /></a></div><span style="font-size: x-small;"><br /></span><div style="text-align: center;">Something similar may have been planned for the other side, if it's safe</div><div style="text-align: center;">to squeeze clues out of <span style="text-align: left;">this Collin Campbell artwork we've seen so</span></div><div style="text-align: center;"><span style="text-align: left;">many </span><span style="text-align: left;">times before. </span><span style="text-align: left;">It probably isn't, but whoever said life was safe?</span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span style="text-align: left;"><br /></span></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhAuzIHIfwHCqIkxcYc7iP8GrJKZnq8ElaO2Xah1Kh1HKqOfuY3UFTHnoxevY2xwoHj87ZPgkIoAEh3yhVqcJGImaBwfMthTwH7tGarJqK6-jz1p6YQuVVhdh8VhdtmXWBOB1_wvbNBEYU5/s2400/14130959036_616128b871_o+copy.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="2400" data-original-width="2400" height="640" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhAuzIHIfwHCqIkxcYc7iP8GrJKZnq8ElaO2Xah1Kh1HKqOfuY3UFTHnoxevY2xwoHj87ZPgkIoAEh3yhVqcJGImaBwfMthTwH7tGarJqK6-jz1p6YQuVVhdh8VhdtmXWBOB1_wvbNBEYU5/w640-h640/14130959036_616128b871_o+copy.jpg" width="640" /></a></div><br /><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEh03fVLUzBcNJYV5S2OPCYlR3C-XADS7x04Vhz5YfFqqr9uQ_a6pyA7tK09HPe10_V75loF6rUnD5ZsAqMy7pjoMGqAwPmeQWsthEd2LuPf7-fcbrS5osGZbIeApSPd3ewczZpOqyNhkHSv/s934/vvvv.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="934" data-original-width="773" height="640" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEh03fVLUzBcNJYV5S2OPCYlR3C-XADS7x04Vhz5YfFqqr9uQ_a6pyA7tK09HPe10_V75loF6rUnD5ZsAqMy7pjoMGqAwPmeQWsthEd2LuPf7-fcbrS5osGZbIeApSPd3ewczZpOqyNhkHSv/w530-h640/vvvv.jpg" width="530" /></a></div><br /><div style="text-align: center;">I imagine the designs would have been based on real-world examples, like this one:</div><div style="text-align: left;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEigI4Yo9OmLZz0OTb7Gkfwtv0aWTitHwVfO5U-wpywm0UPYYD7RSEzyTKtNlI9_LuXH4diZQYbHL1Z6S5dKr7r3-W3QhEA7_UcNjy938w9_HLkz9mp0PpvIwsvs8KmUDZ-gyVlsIbhyk-_k/s640/Vault-1+copy.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="480" data-original-width="640" height="480" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEigI4Yo9OmLZz0OTb7Gkfwtv0aWTitHwVfO5U-wpywm0UPYYD7RSEzyTKtNlI9_LuXH4diZQYbHL1Z6S5dKr7r3-W3QhEA7_UcNjy938w9_HLkz9mp0PpvIwsvs8KmUDZ-gyVlsIbhyk-_k/w640-h480/Vault-1+copy.jpg" width="640" /></a></div><br /><div style="text-align: center;">Just as the existing emergency (chicken) exit is based on real-world examples:</div><div style="text-align: left;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjvYi0b6sWQZ9bd_niCsruzUDyp9vvUow7KHtFGs22kb8lI7bQ-gHYvk0GLcXLW66hHGGnDolJMM6w0boWqkWThqXsSNnfXGvuYS2w57DRHIel7TTkIfk3-Dl2m1r7KJNh2GFx4TphIkN1U/s750/The-Worlds-Most-Haunted-Graveyards-and-Where-to-find-them.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="550" data-original-width="750" height="468" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjvYi0b6sWQZ9bd_niCsruzUDyp9vvUow7KHtFGs22kb8lI7bQ-gHYvk0GLcXLW66hHGGnDolJMM6w0boWqkWThqXsSNnfXGvuYS2w57DRHIel7TTkIfk3-Dl2m1r7KJNh2GFx4TphIkN1U/w640-h468/The-Worlds-Most-Haunted-Graveyards-and-Where-to-find-them.jpg" width="640" /></a></div><div><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiFAux1OEjUnQdB2ALbL0LmION0d1sdgjZXmruzU-nuqJ436m-anr5ruR8UzB_Nc_OdIcH4gtS4RXUGM8KPhM2MFMN7p0zkyaHoqaZEMZQX0yRgM01c1AOIY6iflLjsUxcon72K-OWB-tGu/s650/queue+area+%252810%253A10%253A2000%2529+copy.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="490" data-original-width="650" height="482" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiFAux1OEjUnQdB2ALbL0LmION0d1sdgjZXmruzU-nuqJ436m-anr5ruR8UzB_Nc_OdIcH4gtS4RXUGM8KPhM2MFMN7p0zkyaHoqaZEMZQX0yRgM01c1AOIY6iflLjsUxcon72K-OWB-tGu/w640-h482/queue+area+%252810%253A10%253A2000%2529+copy.jpg" width="640" /></a></div><div style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #ead1dc;">The queue in 2000</span></div><div style="text-align: center;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEidRms9FMfHKRLkjI4qA4jiqPkK3VDc68ZOhKsxBtbbLmX3DpmdsMaUhpXhN427UfWMaGQsVINkCPskm75edvMs5V3IatDZ_p66h0PbuMojWrXkX4SJ8xTF1xZopKt6b1gQi3F-YrMBY37t/s594/emergency+exit+copy.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="403" data-original-width="594" height="434" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEidRms9FMfHKRLkjI4qA4jiqPkK3VDc68ZOhKsxBtbbLmX3DpmdsMaUhpXhN427UfWMaGQsVINkCPskm75edvMs5V3IatDZ_p66h0PbuMojWrXkX4SJ8xTF1xZopKt6b1gQi3F-YrMBY37t/w640-h434/emergency+exit+copy.jpg" width="640" /></a></div><br /><div style="text-align: center;">It is important to understand that these southern holes for additional staircases that never materialized</div><div style="text-align: center;">are <i>below</i> ground level. Above them there was a solid brick wall, probably into early 1969.</div><div><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEizpUbgUPM4WNO91Qp4riso5C6eesoUHGf2BkiKGFu4HjWRh9_wsk7AICPejvGCtFisO-lRyawkmpH1_qoabe_v-NHmGN8f5gLpKLQMe02gszbg2TsieKcFgdwQoi2U-ktXFB5e6TugyKSQ/s695/1967-8+copy.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="695" data-original-width="625" height="400" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEizpUbgUPM4WNO91Qp4riso5C6eesoUHGf2BkiKGFu4HjWRh9_wsk7AICPejvGCtFisO-lRyawkmpH1_qoabe_v-NHmGN8f5gLpKLQMe02gszbg2TsieKcFgdwQoi2U-ktXFB5e6TugyKSQ/w360-h400/1967-8+copy.jpg" width="360" /></a></div><br /><div style="text-align: center;">The difference between what is and what was being constructed in 1962 can be seen this way:</div><br /><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiWS-p_KYqNklwLVLQfe30QUT9ndf0cnZl4w_lvpUDefyawIZ1tF0RfUsX6Vpr9z6NCq0zzfMjbavoxGJOKXlLaioFxIHTf-thl0JSz6A6Rz0o1i_V7N7XNNCNxwEuJYNbnk4iqRDqD_yUC/s484/queue+wall+gif.gif" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="368" data-original-width="484" height="486" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiWS-p_KYqNklwLVLQfe30QUT9ndf0cnZl4w_lvpUDefyawIZ1tF0RfUsX6Vpr9z6NCq0zzfMjbavoxGJOKXlLaioFxIHTf-thl0JSz6A6Rz0o1i_V7N7XNNCNxwEuJYNbnk4iqRDqD_yUC/w640-h486/queue+wall+gif.gif" width="640" /></a></div><div style="text-align: left;"><br /></div><div style="text-align: left;"><div style="text-align: center;">This photo from Tom, originally belonging to "Cousin Victor," shows in the northern graveyard the hole</div><div style="text-align: center;"> for the speed ramp on the right. Gives you a good idea of where these holes were, vertically as well as</div><div style="text-align: center;"> horizontally. (Just ignore that hole on the left; that's for stuff like heating and air conditioning access.</div></div><div style="text-align: left;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEibpMzE_mx7xvn3VgwFxSHcMCnTr_ztlsvsYDEPF5tuSc8HKP8fMNnC9J609QP1kbatbMIMk7TSZbrGGUxsvprLhT4nQSj8SKtuyjRtoK-2gz823Q3fZ2tyijqhEA4ttzWu-8sYSjqB8IAs/s997/north+yard.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="692" data-original-width="997" height="444" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEibpMzE_mx7xvn3VgwFxSHcMCnTr_ztlsvsYDEPF5tuSc8HKP8fMNnC9J609QP1kbatbMIMk7TSZbrGGUxsvprLhT4nQSj8SKtuyjRtoK-2gz823Q3fZ2tyijqhEA4ttzWu-8sYSjqB8IAs/w640-h444/north+yard.jpg" width="640" /></a></div><div style="text-align: center;"><br /></div><div style="text-align: center;">Another shot of the speed ramp hole:</div><div style="text-align: center;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgg_1KyuWKQdmkR-TFCWD4UcFfdG8e7uZt5MjNQTVbu5ab5w6V3IKPQlGmyH7jopa-e78tT0KLd_x8GZQa8QHUurJdelZhRUXA2RNi9iqfBy1MST7TA4q4dpfmjQGH2h7wTUKmAM8sDjTuf/s446/outside+ramp.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="338" data-original-width="446" height="486" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgg_1KyuWKQdmkR-TFCWD4UcFfdG8e7uZt5MjNQTVbu5ab5w6V3IKPQlGmyH7jopa-e78tT0KLd_x8GZQa8QHUurJdelZhRUXA2RNi9iqfBy1MST7TA4q4dpfmjQGH2h7wTUKmAM8sDjTuf/w640-h486/outside+ramp.jpg" width="640" /></a></div><br /><div style="text-align: center;">A shot from the inside, looking up at that same hole:</div><div style="text-align: left;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEh59C7oR6k3RxBsxobgGv3jyjrRj02s-7itlDKBNVs8T3IkXxJotfEpgD4Y0CoZK3VsrghaNzNHo60qGRq8uSNPRPMDeZqQkwbyijTTtuwxpBHelUWVxy3vF5j1njnM7Ab65JuI63lo2EEf/s671/inside+ramp.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="671" data-original-width="377" height="640" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEh59C7oR6k3RxBsxobgGv3jyjrRj02s-7itlDKBNVs8T3IkXxJotfEpgD4Y0CoZK3VsrghaNzNHo60qGRq8uSNPRPMDeZqQkwbyijTTtuwxpBHelUWVxy3vF5j1njnM7Ab65JuI63lo2EEf/w360-h640/inside+ramp.jpg" width="360" /></a></div><div style="text-align: left;"><div style="text-align: center;"><br /></div><div style="text-align: center;"><span style="text-align: left;">There is no evidence that the triple exit system ever went past those 1962 blueprints. In fact,</span></div><div style="text-align: center;"><span style="text-align: left;">the staircases are all labeled as "future </span><span style="text-align: left;">construction," and there doesn't seem to have been any</span></div><div style="text-align: center;"><span style="text-align: left;">attempt </span><span style="text-align: left;">to sketch out how they would have sprouted from the main exit room beneath the house.</span></div><div style="text-align: center;"><span style="text-align: left;"><br /></span></div><div style="text-align: center;"><span style="text-align: left;">This system just happened to be the latest idea at the time of the concrete pours.</span></div></div></div><div style="text-align: left;"><br /></div><div style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #38761d; font-size: x-large;">*******************</span></div><div style="text-align: center;"><br /></div><br /></div>HBG2http://www.blogger.com/profile/05073387557562504315noreply@blogger.com13tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4444762441887107389.post-14539906067291276132020-11-04T17:21:00.003-08:002020-11-05T11:25:33.291-08:00Son of "The Sea Captain and the Bride...You Never Knew"<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #20124d; font-size: xx-small;"> .</span><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg5smX7ozETjyF2OQkhJpcrWyABRDjiDqEAiOLkJ63Hhw9g4NDmUyxcn6uorDUGT95SCMxSkW021q9fRTsshuv9oYFh97xzUuYW4muNw30qz38OA3vLnjr4QCExed6OO4cFPCIkG54xNhvK/s408/tribute+1999+copy+2.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em; text-align: center;"><img border="0" data-original-height="401" data-original-width="408" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg5smX7ozETjyF2OQkhJpcrWyABRDjiDqEAiOLkJ63Hhw9g4NDmUyxcn6uorDUGT95SCMxSkW021q9fRTsshuv9oYFh97xzUuYW4muNw30qz38OA3vLnjr4QCExed6OO4cFPCIkG54xNhvK/s16000/tribute+1999+copy+2.jpg" /></a></p><p style="text-align: center;"><span style="text-align: left;"><span style="color: #8e7cc3; font-size: x-small;">(Caricature of Ken, 1999)</span></span></p><p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="text-align: left;">Never fails. You do a major study and publish major results, and the ink is barely dry (or in this case, the electrons are barely cold), and boom, something that should have been in the study is published elsewhere.</span></p><p>Well, I don't really mind. That's where the blog format comes in handy.</p><p>Amy Opoka, at the Walt Disney Archives, <a href="https://d23.com/a-haunted-mansion-tale/" target="_blank">published at D23's website for Halloween</a> what looks like a complete Ken Anderson script for his famous Ghost House. As a matter of fact, it may be the first one he did.</p><p>In addition to the text, Opoka published some storyboard sketches, all but one of which were on display in the exhibit at the Frank Wells building in the fall of 2019 and were put up in <a href="https://longforgottenhauntedmansion.blogspot.com/2020/07/the-sea-captain-and-bride-that-you.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">the previous post</a>. I've added the one new one (new to us, that is) into that post. It's the captain in bed, with footprints walking around.</p><p>We're deeply in Opoka's debt for publishing the script. Alas, it is my solemn duty to point out that the storyboards she selected to put up along with the story as it moves along are not always accurate. She's got a sketch of "Hairy the Arm" (actually he's "Tor" at this point if he's got a name at all) grabbing Priscilla at the window, inserted as if it depicted the Captain attacking Priscilla after she discovers the Horrible Truth, when we know this window scene comes much earlier, even before you enter the building. She's also got the closed-and-locked trunk sketch as if it's what Priscilla discovered in the attic and opened up, but it's actually the trunk after she's locked inside of it by the dastardly Captain.</p><p>Those are quibbles. For our purposes, it will serve to simply give the text of the script itself, without all the accompaniment. The story is very simple and sketchy at this point. It's short, and there is no clue as to how Priscilla is murdered.</p><p><br /></p><p><i><b>Scene I — The Picture Gallery</b></i></p><p>(A group assembles to listen to the tale of "The Haunted House.")</p><p><span style="color: #a64d79;">Beauregarde</span>: Welcome to the Old Gore Mansion. I am Beauregarde, the Butler. I have been with the family for many, many years. This was what we called the Picture Gallery. Of course, it's not what it was around 1810, when Captain Bartholomew Gore brought his young bride here to live. This is a portrait of Captain Gore, a wealthy, sea-faring man, and this is Priscilla, his wife. Captain Gore was a brooding man who knew no fear... Given to fits of jealousy and rage. Some say he had an evil eye... "The Devil's eye," they called it. A thing his bride was to learn about later... much to her sorrow!</p><p><br /></p><p><i><b>Scene II — Priscilla in Rocking Chair</b></i></p><p><span style="color: #a64d79;">Beauregarde</span>: We are now in the hall outside Miss Priscilla's room. Let us try and imagine the terrible thing that happened here over a hundred and fifty years ago. Perhaps Miss Priscilla will come back from the spirit world and tell us about it.</p><p><span style="color: #3d85c6;">Priscilla</span>: "Bar-thol-o-mew—Bar-thol-o-mew—Where are you, Bartholomew?" It happened the night that Captain Gore was away on a a sea voyage... Or so I thought! I had found an old journal tucked away in his desk... And a curious sort of skeleton key. The journal told of the murderous deeds of Black Bart, the pirate who plundered the Caribbean... The dates and certain incidents aroused my suspicions... I thought of the sea chest in my husband's study... Why was it always locked?... Although I feared my husband's terrible secret!</p><p><br /></p><p><i><b>Scene III —The Captain's Room</b></i></p><p><span style="color: #a64d79;">Beauregarde</span>: This was the Captain's study. If only Miss Priscilla had not been so curious...</p><p><span style="color: #3d85c6;">Priscilla</span>: Yes, Beauregarde, I fear my curiosity was greater than my discretion... How well I remember—My hands trembled as I fitted the key into the lock of the chest. Slowly I turned the key, (click) the lock opened... I gasped in horror at the evidence of my husband's true identity, and then... (Gasp!) </p><p>[Priscilla screams]</p><p><br /></p><p><i><b>Scene IV — Hallway (Priscilla's Ghost)</b></i></p><p><span style="color: #a64d79;">Beauregarde</span>: No one knows what happened to poor Priscilla on that horrifying night—But we're certain of this—She was never seen again—ALIVE, that is!</p><p><span style="color: #3d85c6;">Priscilla</span>: "Bartholomew, where are you, Bartholomew?"</p><p><br /></p><p><i><b>Scene V — Captain's Bedroom</b></i></p><p><span style="color: #a64d79;">Beauregarde</span>: After that ghastly night, Captain Gore knew no peace. Every unearthly sound struck terror in his heart. And the last time he was seen on Earth was in this very room!</p><p><span style="color: #3d85c6;">Priscilla</span>: He would have run away, but there was no place for him to hide... For he knew that I would search for him no matter where he might be... That I would haunt him to the end of this days!... "Bartholomew, where are you, Bartholomew?"</p><p><br /></p><p><i><b>Scene VI — The Attic Scene</b></i></p><p>[It starts raining outside.]</p><p><span style="color: #a64d79;">Beauregarde</span>: This is called the mystery room, because there is a strange magnetic force that draws you here... As if it had some connection with the mystery of Captain Gore!</p><p>[The wind is moaning outside]</p><p><span style="color: #3d85c6;">Priscilla</span>: "Bartholomew—Bartholomew—"</p><p><span style="color: #a64d79;">Beauregarde</span>: Well, that's the end of the story. Some say Priscilla had her revenge—that she drove him mad. Maybe someday we'll know what happened to Captain Bartholomew Gore.</p><p>[Thunder crashes] <span style="color: #6aa84f;">[</span><i><span style="color: #6aa84f;">Obviously, this is where the hanging scene appears—HGB2</span></i><span style="color: #6aa84f;">]</span></p><p><span style="color: #3d85c6;">Priscilla</span>: "HA HA HA HA HA..."</p><p><br /></p><div><span style="-webkit-font-kerning: none; font-kerning: none;"><br /></span></div>HBG2http://www.blogger.com/profile/05073387557562504315noreply@blogger.com5tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4444762441887107389.post-33450980177954838722020-08-15T18:52:00.003-07:002020-11-06T16:16:39.079-08:00The Sea Captain and the Bride . . . That You Never Knew<span style="color: #20124d; font-size: x-small;">.</span><br />
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<span style="font-family: inherit;">The years 2017-2019 brought a flood of new information about Ken Anderson's 1957 plans for the Haunted Mansion (then called the "Ghost House" or "Haunted House"). This new material stems from three events:</span><br />
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<span style="font-family: inherit;"><b><i><span style="color: #e69138; font-size: large;">First</span></i></b>, there was the D23 display in 2017 of a floor plan for the attraction that seemed to pre-date even our oldest known versions of the "Captain Gore and Priscilla" backstory. <a href="https://longforgottenhauntedmansion.blogspot.com/2017/07/the-oldest-haunted-mansion.html" target="_blank">That one we've covered</a>,<span style="color: #f4cccc;"> </span>but the 2019 material has necessitated a complete revision, so check it out.</span><br />
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<span style="font-family: inherit;"><b><i><span style="color: #e69138; font-size: large;">Second</span></i></b>, Jeremy Marx, friend of Paul Anderson and privy to Ken Anderson's unpublished materials, did a panel presentation for the D23 convention in 2019, "Ken Anderson's Haunted Mansion '57: A year of Horror, Humor, and...Voodoo?" with tons of brand new information. That one we have NOT yet covered, but it was the subject of a <a href="https://www.micechat.com/234872-haunted-mansion-the-horror-humor-voodoo-of-ken-anderson/" target="_blank">MiceAge article</a>, Aug 31, 2019. Judging by the tiny number of comments, the article (and the presentation) did not get nearly the audience it deserves.</span><br />
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<span style="font-family: inherit;"><b><i><span style="color: #e69138; font-size: large;">Third</span></i></b>, </span>Walt Disney Archives put up a window display in the Burbank <a href="https://foursquare.com/v/frank-g-wells-building/4bfe97674cf820a15519eef4/photos" target="_blank">Frank Wells Building</a> in the fall of 2019 in commemoration of the Mansion's 50th anniversary. Being a rather out-of-the-way venue, it too did not draw the kind of attention it should have. The display included a<span style="color: #d5a6bd;"> <i>set of 32 Anderson storyboard sketches for one of his 1957 Haunted House scripts, with captions drawn from a hand-written manuscript page also on display.</i> </span>This stunning new data hasn't been covered here or anywhere else that I'm aware of. <span style="color: #cc0000;"> [Edit: updated November 4, 2020.]</span> <br />
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It's becoming clear to me that the accounts I and other HM historians have given of Anderson's scripts and backstories are inadequate and out-of-date. We've all been told, for example, that Ken wrote four scripts (although we have also been informed that these included many variants). Marx's presentation in particular shows that this is no longer a useful description. There were<i> <span style="color: #e06666;">at least 14 scripts</span></i><span style="color: #e06666;"> </span>in total, all written in 1957, many of them unknown to the public until last year.<br />
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Wading through all this new material, as well as reviewing the old, has been a little daunting, but I think one good way to organize it is to connect the scripts with the buildings they were intended for. When you do that, you boil it down to essentially <b>two scripts</b>, each with many variants but nevertheless still revolving around a recognizable and distinctive cast of characters.<br />
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One story is always about a Sea Captain and his Bride. In most cases the Captain is evil and the Bride is his victim, but it turns out there are many more variations than we ever dreamed. All of them were written between February and April (which is approximately when Ken discovered the Shipley house). One thing the Sea Captain stories appear to have in common is that they all seem to presume <a href="https://longforgottenhauntedmansion.blogspot.com/2017/07/the-oldest-haunted-mansion.html" target="_blank">this house</a>:<br />
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<span style="font-family: inherit;">The second story ("Bloodmere Manor") is also familiar and involves a massive gathering of ghosts for a netherworldish wedding in a house with a cursed, haunted past. Despite the best efforts of our hosts, many of these spirits do not want us around, things go badly at the wedding, and we're lucky to get out alive. Again, there are lots of variants, but that's the basic plot line. </span>Anderson's so-called "third" and "fourth" scripts are really just variations of and additions to this <span style="font-family: inherit;">second backstory, which goes with </span><i style="font-family: inherit;"><a href="https://longforgottenhauntedmansion.blogspot.com/2010/07/mansions-known-and-unknown.html" target="_blank">this</a></i><span style="font-family: inherit;"><a href="https://longforgottenhauntedmansion.blogspot.com/2010/07/mansions-known-and-unknown.html" target="_blank"> house</a>:</span><br />
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<span style="font-family: inherit;">The "Shipley-Lydecker" version</span></div>
<span style="font-family: inherit;"><br /></span><span style="font-family: inherit;">There are incidental gags and utterly non-essential plot elements that they share, but there appears to be </span>zero overlap between the two basic stories represented in the scripts (with one possible exception, which we'll look at)<span style="font-family: inherit;">. That's why I think we are justified in speaking of <i>essentially</i> two backstories, not four (or fourteen).</span><br />
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In this lengthy post we're going to look at the first story. (The second story will have to wait for its own post.) Here, we'll briefly describe (1) the familiar versions of the Sea Captain tale, then (2) the unfamiliar, and then (3) we'll look at the most recently discovered one: the Anderson storyboards put on display by the Archives in 2019. If successful, I'm hoping the post might serve as a sort of one-stop shopping location for basic data on the Sea Captain tale, the Haunted Mansion's original backstory.<br />
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<span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">Let's begin with the familiar. To date, no actual scripts have been published<span style="color: #cc0000;"> [Edit: No longer true. Check out the</span> <a href="https://longforgottenhauntedmansion.blogspot.com/2020/11/son-of-sea-captain-and-brideyou-never.html" target="_blank">following</a> <span style="color: #cc0000;">post]</span>, but there are many thumbnail descriptions of the Sea Captain tale out there. For my money, the two best summaries currently available are from Jason Surrell and Jim Korkis. Here's <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Haunted-Mansion-Imagineering-Classic-Kingdom/dp/1484722299/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=jason+surrell+haunted&qid=1592519117&sr=8-1" target="_blank">Surrell's</a>:</span></span><br />
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<span style="color: #9fc5e8; font-family: inherit;"><i>Ken wrote his first creative treatment in February 1957, setting the attraction inside the seaside manor of an old sea captain, who, according to local legend, disappeared under mysterious circumstances many years earlier. A maid or butler character would lead a group of about forty guests into the house and assemble them on top of a moving platform that would take them down into the basement, where the actual tour would begin. The maid or butler guided the tour, pointing out secret passageways, changing portraits, and inanimate objects that came to life.</i></span><br />
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<span style="font-family: inherit;"><i><span style="color: #9fc5e8;">The tour began in a Picture Gallery, where another costumed servant met the guests. "Welcome to the old Gore Mansion," he would say. "I am Beauregard the Butler. Of course, it's not what it was around 1810 when Captain Bartholomew Gore brought his young bride here to live." In others drafts, the character was known as Captain Gideon Gorelieu, earning the nickname Captain Gore thanks to his bloodthirsty reputation. As Beauregard gestured to a portrait of Captain Gore, a pair of hairy hands would emerge from hidden panels in the walls and attempt to grab the butler—the first of many illusions and special effects.</span></i></span><br />
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<span style="color: #9fc5e8; font-family: inherit;"><i>In the next room, guests encountered the ghost of Captain Gore's ill-fated bride Priscilla [in a rocking chair, according to Jim Korkis]. Scenes such as these were designed like elaborate department-store window displays, illuminating and animating as guests entered, and fading to black as they moved into the next scene. The tour continued as guests watched Priscilla break into an old treasure chest that belonged to her husband, discovering to her horror that he was actually the notorious pirate, Black Bart. She screamed as the room plunged into pitch darkness. "No one knows what happened to Priscilla," Beauregard continued, "but she was never seen again—alive, that is. And after that ghastly night, Captain Gore knew no peace." It was believed that Captain Gore killed his young bride when she discovered his true identity and bricked her up in a cellar wall somewhere deep within the house. In subsequent drafts, Priscilla's fate differed—in one version the captain locked her body in a sea chest and threw the key down a well; in another he threw </i>her <i>down a well. Either way, Priscilla's spirit tormented him every night until he took his own life by hanging himself from the rafters in the attic.</i></span><br />
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<span style="color: #9fc5e8; font-family: inherit;"><i>As guests left the house, they passed by a crumbling old well. Scratched onto a nearby wall was a clue to Mrs. Gore's fate: "Ding dong dell, Priscilla's in the well. Who there her in? The wicked cap-a-tain!"</i></span><br />
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<i><span style="color: #9fc5e8;">Guests peering into the well heard an ominous bubbling in the dark water far below as Beauregard the Butler offered a sinister parting thought: "And about the color of the water—maybe it's the reflection of the sun, but by an odd coincidence, it's blood red."</span></i><br />
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<span style="font-size: x-small;">(Surrell, <i><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Haunted-Mansion-Imagineering-Classic-Kingdom/dp/1484722299/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=jason+surrell+haunted&qid=1592519117&sr=8-1" target="_blank">Haunted Mansion</a></i>, 15 [1st-2nd eds: 17] ) </span></div>
<span style="font-family: inherit;"><br /></span><span style="font-family: inherit;"><b><u><span style="color: #f4cccc;">Comments</span></u>:</b> The summary twice makes reference to variants in other versions: with regard to the Captain's name and with regard to the mode of Priscilla's murder (three versions thereof), so already we can detect in this summary at least three and as many as five scripts. Another significant variant that Surrell <i>doesn't</i> mention is Priscilla's status at the time. In some versions the two are <i>not yet married</i>, and even among these there are variants. Sometimes she makes her grim discovery on the very day of their wedding. In the Korkis version below she is actually wearing her bridal gown at the time, but in other versions where she is not yet married there is no suggestion that she opens the trunk on their actual wedding day. In still other versions they are <i>already married</i> when she makes the discovery. In one telling Gore builds the house and then goes looking for a wife. In another he builds the house <i>for</i> his young bride. It's impossible to figure out how many scripts we are talking about, since almost any two variants mentioned here could be pointing to two other scripts or to only one which happens to contain both of the variations cited.</span><br />
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<span style="font-family: inherit;">Hopefully, Jeremy Marx will some day publish the voluminous Andersonian material in his possession! I look forward to utterly revising this post.</span><br />
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<span style="font-family: inherit;">Anderson <a href="https://longforgottenhauntedmansion.blogspot.com/2010/10/father-of-haunted-mansion-part-one.html">visualized a conveyance system</a> for moving the group through the attraction practically from the very beginning, but didn't get around to sketching what he had in mind until much later in the year, long after he had moved on to the "Shipley" house and the "Bloodmere" script. In between, and even in the detailed blueprints for the Ghost House drawn up in September, he simply ignored all that and consistently treated the attraction as a guided walk-through!</span><br />
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The second indispensable summary of the story is Korkis's report about what was given to him orally by Ken Anderson himself late in life. Keep in mind that Anderson is in his 80s and reflecting back about 35 years at this point, and he <i>may</i> be conflating different scripts. <a href="https://www.mouseplanet.com/10786/Ken_Andersons_Haunted_Mansions_Part_One" target="_blank">According to Korkis</a>, the story Ken told him went like this:<br />
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<span style="color: #9fc5e8;"><i>"A well-known and feared pirate captain quietly retired to private life in a seaside community, like the famed Captain <a href="https://longforgottenhauntedmansion.blogspot.com/2017/08/captain-gore-lives.html" target="_blank">Henry Morgan</a>. He changed his name and used some of his ill-gotten booty to establish himself as a respected and prosperous man of the community. To make his life even more complete, he chose a lucky 18-year-old to be his bride and bear him many children. The only restriction he gave her was to stay out of the attic of their magnificent mansion."</i></span><br />
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<span style="color: #9fc5e8;"><i>"Of course, the curious girl couldn't resist, and, on their wedding day before the ceremony, but dressed in her wedding gown, she snuck up into the cluttered attic and found a locked trunk that she forced open. Inside the trunk were souvenirs and documents from the man's previous life as a pirate. Enraged that his secret might be revealed to the community by this foolish girl, he grabbed her, and, in the ensuing fight, tossed her out the window to her death" [my note: this is yet a fourth version of the murder, unless by some lucky shot she landed in the well]....</i></span><br />
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<span style="color: #9fc5e8;"><i>"The girl's ghost haunted her fiancé so mercilessly that the only way he could find peace was by hanging himself. However, their passions were so intense that their spirits were both bound to the house for all eternity. Their continuing struggle, even after death, attracted other ghosts, including some who came to celebrate a wedding that will never be completed."</i></span><br />
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<b><u><span style="color: #f4cccc;">Comment</span></u>:</b> That final item feels awkward and tacked-on to me. Like I said, we may have to do here with an inadvertent mashup of the two basic stories Ken came up with, rather than testimony to the actual content of any one 1957 script. But if not, then this is the only example I am aware of where the two stories intermix.<br />
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<span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="color: #93c47d; font-size: large;">Legends, Legends, and More Legends...</span></span><br />
<span style="font-family: inherit;"><br /></span>Now we move into unfamiliar territory. The following are some of the variations in scripts known to Jeremy Marx, as reported in <a href="https://www.micechat.com/234872-haunted-mansion-the-horror-humor-voodoo-of-ken-anderson/" target="_blank">MiceAge</a>, some of which are pretty . . . out there. I'm skipping over technical details of presentation and logistics and concentrating on storyline deviations from the well-known versions summarized above.<br />
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<b><u><span style="color: #ea9999;">Laughing Priscilla</span></u></b>: In some scripts, Priscilla (or an unnamed bride) is not a passive victim but sinister and even downright villainous. In one of the first scripts—possibly the <i>very</i> first—we find the basic storyline as summarized by Surrell, except that Pris is the <i>only</i> ghost in the house and is searching around for "Bartholomew," her missing husband. The scene with the terrified captain in bed with his pistols is already there (see the storyboards below). We finally learn his fate via the hanging-man scene found in almost all the scripts (lightning flashes, you look up, etc.). That's in the last scene, and as we leave, <i>we hear Priscilla's maniacal laughter! </i><span style="color: #cc0000;">[This is the script now available; see next post.]</span><br />
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As the MiceAge article points out, this is a darker side of Pris than we're familiar with, and you could argue that it foreshadows Constance. I would add that it foreshadows <a href="https://www.theartofthemedattractions.com/single-post/2019/10/20/The-Portraits-of-Melanie-Ravenswood-Phantom-Manor" target="_blank">the "new" Melanie</a> at Phantom Manor even moreso. <i>She</i> now has a slightly sinister side as well, making <i>her</i> exit with a taunting laugh. Hold my beer; I just <i>have</i> to say this:<br />
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<b><span style="color: #f1c232;">"Damn, is there <i><u>anything</u> </i>in the Mansions that does <i><u>not</u> </i>go back to a Ken Anderson idea?"</span></b></div>
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<b><u><span style="color: #ea9999;">Voodoo Priscilla</span></u>:</b> Already by mid-February, Anderson and associate Bill Cottrell had come up with an entirely new wrinkle for the Sea Captain tale and the Haunted House: Voodoo. In March, t<span style="text-align: center;">hey did a lot of research into voodoo and bayou country superstitions and took a lot of notes, some of which have been published:</span><br />
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<span style="font-family: inherit;">In the script that eventually emerged from all of this, one of the last in the Sea Captain series, the (unnamed) bride is the villain of the piece. She turns out to be a "voodoo queen" and puts an effigy of some kind on her husband, which drives him to suicide through sheer terror. (Let me guess: he hung himself?) We can safely imagine that ghostly revenge comes into play in this backstory.</span></div>
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<span style="font-family: inherit;">If I may digress for a moment, this seems as appropriate a place as any to bring up this illustration. Having learned about the "voodoo" backstory, in which the Captain is murdered, I can't help wondering whether </span><span style="font-family: inherit;">Ken's artwork above </span><span style="font-family: inherit;">may </span><span style="font-family: inherit;">have </span><span style="font-family: inherit;">been partly inspired by this Paul Hardy illustration in </span><i style="font-family: inherit;">The Wide World</i><span style="font-family: inherit;"> magazine (Feb 1900, p 471).</span></div>
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They have a lot in common, but it's a pretty obscure journal and a pretty obscure article, with a title that wouldn't exactly pique the curiosity of a ghost lore investigator ("What Happened to the Feather Hunters"). It's not even about voodoo but cannibalism, and the setting is not the American south but the Congo. The safer bet is that Anderson never saw this illustration and the resemblances are coincidental. But before we close the book on it, there's also this: On the left is another illustration from the same article; on the right, an Anderson sketch.</div>
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<b><u><span style="color: #ea9999;">Tor Story</span></u>:</b> One gag that comes in very early and stays to the end is the girl at the window being grabbed by a hairy arm, already discussed in our post on the "Oldest Haunted Mansion" floor plan and vividly present in the storyboards below. The grabby fellow makes the leap to the second backstory, "Bloodmere Manor," where he is eventually named "Hairy the Arm," as everyone knows, always trying to grab the guide or the guests via sliding panels and such. At one point, in a very early script, Anderson tried making him a more central character.<br />
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<span style="font-family: inherit;">The arm belongs to a servant named Tor who has been charged with keeping the bride locked up in the tower while the master (here called "the Commodore") is away. Tor is a bit overzealous and accidentally strangles her as she struggles. Overcome with remorse, he hangs himself. Meanwhile, the Commodore is killed at sea. Now he has to spend eternity begging for his wife's forgiveness, but it's never enough to prevent the endless re-enactment of her tragic death.</span><br />
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<span style="font-family: inherit;">It's remarkable that in this version the Captain does not die of suicide but </span><i style="font-family: inherit;">dies at sea</i><span style="font-family: inherit;"> and now haunts. Anderson has always gotten credit for the murderous, piratical Sea Captain who hangs himself from the rafters, but it looks like Ken is also the man who gave us the</span><i style="font-family: inherit;"> tragically drowned</i><span style="font-family: inherit;"> </span><i style="font-family: inherit;">sea captain</i><span style="font-family: inherit;">, the "</span><a href="https://longforgottenhauntedmansion.blogspot.com/2019/11/the-mariner.html" style="font-family: inherit;" target="_blank">Mariner</a><span style="font-family: inherit;">," a character carried forward by subsequent Imagineers in one form or another right down to the present.</span></div>
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<span style="font-family: inherit;">(Damn, is there <i>anything</i>...etc.)</span><br />
<span style="font-family: inherit;"><br /></span><span style="font-family: inherit;">Anyway, at one point in this script our guide is taken away somehow and the Commodore's own voice tells us to look up. There's the usual lightning flash and hanging corpse (Tor's), and the Commodore says, "Let that be a warning to all unwelcome visitors."</span><br />
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<span style="font-family: inherit;"><u style="font-weight: bold;"><span style="color: #ea9999;">Commodore "Zombie</span></u><span style="font-weight: bold;">":</span> In this version we're not sure if the bride was murdered or not. She's missing, and the Commodore has locked up the place and spends his entire life searching for her, becoming a zombie in the process. Perhaps this is another exploration of the voodoo theme. The house, meanwhile, is full of ghosts, which the guide must dispatch with a special gun (more on that below).</span><br />
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<span style="font-family: inherit;"><b><u><span style="color: #ea9999;">Hidden Treasure</span></u>:</b> This story element is not found in the MiceAge report of Marx's presentation or in any written source known to me, but it <i>is</i> present in the storyboards below. Apparently there are rumors of hidden treasure in or around the place, so we see evidence at one point of the house and yard being ransacked by treasure seekers, living and dead, including an unnamed pirate.</span><br />
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<b><u><span style="color: #ea9999;">Random Stuff</span></u>:</b> Not a story, but a couple of ideas found in various scripts are worth noting.<br />
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<span style="color: #b4a7d6;">(1)</span> In at least one very early script, the guide is not what he seems. There is a graveyard scene outside the window, and Beauregard takes this opportunity to tell guests that he has been with the family for a long time. Bam! Lightning flash (more importantly, black light flash), and we see that the guide is a skeleton (or is a ghost with a visible skeleton within him, like the ghosts in several Anderson sketches). Anderson had already done some research into how to create this effect with black light and Pepper's Ghost, but turning a human figure into a skeleton (or vice versa) with nothing more than clever lighting and Pepper, all within a small-ish space, was probably beyond any realistic possibility in 1957. It is, however, something Imagineers eventually got around to doing, for the <s>Hong Kong</s>, [correction,<i> <b>Shanghai</b></i>] version of POTC! (Damn, etc.)<br />
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<span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="color: #b4a7d6;">(2) </span>A "ghost disintegration gun" appears in versions of both of the basic storylines. In at least some scripts, the guide blasts various ghosts along the way. I have to wonder whether the gun that Yale Gracey and Rolly Crump developed a few years later was inspired by Ken's idea. At one point Rolly and Yale purchased all sorts of ugly prop heads and created platforms and bodies for them. One dummy was made for a special purpose: </span><i style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="color: #3d85c6;">"Yale set it up so that when he shot it with a prop gun, it would blow apart into a few pieces. We didn't know what we were doing; we were just trying stuff out. But it looked neat, and it was set to reassemble itself to do it all over again."</span></i><br />
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<span style="font-family: inherit; font-size: x-small;">(Crump and Heimbuch, <i><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Kind-Cute-Story-Rolly-Crump/dp/098547064X/ref=sr_1_2?crid=2SLKKVXQRSCMM&dchild=1&keywords=it%27s+kind+of+a+cute+story&qid=1592519832&sprefix=It%27s+kind+of+a+cute%2Caps%2C215&sr=8-2" target="_blank">It's Kind of a Cute Story</a></i>, 2012, 49)</span><br />
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<span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(180, 167, 214); color: #b4a7d6;">(3) </span>Speaking of Rolly and Yale, it should be blatantly obvious that the storyline underpinning their celebrated tableau of the drowned sea captain i</span>s based directly on material taken from Anderson scripts, <span style="font-family: inherit;">involving as it does a captain who murders his wife and walls her up in the fireplace, only to have her spirit come back to haunt him. We've linked it before, but in case you've missed it:</span><br />
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<span style="color: #3d85c6;">Rolly Crump on the "Sea Captain" Tableau</span><br />
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<span style="font-family: inherit;">By way of introduction, recall that in 2017 this <a href="https://longforgottenhauntedmansion.blogspot.com/2017/07/the-oldest-haunted-mansion.html" target="_blank">previously unknown plan</a> for Ken Anderson's "Ghost House" was discovered and created quite a stir, since it represented, arguably, the oldest known complete version of Disneyland's Haunted Mansion.</span><br />
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<span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">Now we have actual Ken Anderson storyboards for a 1957 Haunted House script, thanks to the Walt Disney </span></span><span style="font-family: inherit;">Archives. </span><span style="font-family: inherit;">Micechat Threadster "</span><a href="https://discuss.micechat.com/forum/disney-theme-park-news-and-discussion/disneyland-resort/139774-the-long-forgotten-haunted-mansion-effect-thread-7-further-realms-of-fright?p=8619501#post8619501" style="font-family: inherit;">imagineer999</a><span style="font-family: inherit;">" took pictures of the display and was kind enough to share them:</span></div>
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In some ways the story we see here is closely related to the old floor plan above, but in others it is not, so it must be regarded as a distinct version of the Sea Captain tale in its own right. <span style="font-family: inherit;">Helpfully, "imagineer999" took photos from several angles, and with some careful photoshoppery I've been able combine images and thus eliminate most of the reflected glare from the light fixtures.</span><br />
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<span style="font-family: inherit;">It's a rough, informal, working manuscript, and the text was put down in three layers. </span>There are two blocks of large notations in red, near top and bottom. In between is writing in black, with bullet points. Lastly there is smaller black notation obviously added later and often squeezed in between and above lines. The red material is almost as clipped and abrupt as a shopping list and obviously came first. The bullet-pointed material in between (which he deliberately left room for) came second and is much more detailed. The squeezed-in notes were added last, and in at least one instance a line is probably out of place. The following is my transcription.</div>
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Ghosts in garden, skeletons up from graves.</div>
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Projected, distorted ghost across syclorama.</div>
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<span style="font-family: inherit;">From this the Archive created numbered captions for the sketches, and our numbering will follow suit. </span><span style="font-family: inherit;">Unfortunately, Anderson's text is not transcribed accurately in many of the Archive's captions. </span><span style="font-family: inherit;">I have supplied photos of those captions and noted corrections as needed.</span><br />
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<span style="font-family: inherit;">We have (1) a graveyard cyclorama scene, (2) a ransacked room scene, (3) a ghost in a syclorama [sic!], and (4) a ghost pacing around a room. In other words, cyclorama—room—cyclorama—room. That can't be right. I think Anderson inadvertantly squeezed the "ransacked room" line in between the wrong lines. It should be:</span><br />
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<span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">In the</span><span style="font-family: inherit;"> </span><span style="font-family: inherit;">later, "Bloodmere Manor" script, we read that at the gatehouse we </span><span style="font-family: inherit;">see <span style="color: #6fa8dc;">"</span><i><span style="color: #6fa8dc;">copies </span></i></span><i><span style="color: #6fa8dc;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">of the </span><span style="font-family: inherit;">Times </span></span></i><span style="font-family: inherit;"><i><span style="color: #6fa8dc;">Picayune and Leslie's Magazine</span></i><span style="color: #6fa8dc;">"</span> posted </span><span style="font-family: inherit;">conspicuously, with scary headlines about grisly atrocities associated with the house. We can see here how directly this item was carried over from the Sea Captain scripts</span></span><span style="font-family: inherit;">, right down to picayune details, you might say.</span><br />
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<span style="font-family: inherit;">Unsettling rumors about Captain Gorelieu's past play an important part in the story, since they feed poor Priscilla's fatal curiosity. No doubt this old newspaper clipping helped establish that plot element.</span><br />
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<span style="font-family: inherit;">This Andersonian show device has been used over and over; for example, in the Jungle Cruise and Tower of Terror queues, or better still, in the Indiana Jones queue, where guests have ample opportunity while waiting in line to see old periodicals and notices (even a newsreel) providing helpful background info, allowing them to immerse themselves in the historical situation of the adventure they are about to enter. </span></div>
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<span style="font-family: inherit;"><br /></span><span style="font-family: inherit;">Incidentally, for some reason there hasn't been much interest in trying to track down a possible inspiration for the design of this version. For what it's worth, I suspect that the haunted house in the "<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gyhq4jnz_do" target="_blank">Lonesome Ghosts</a>" Mickey Mouse short may have made at least a partial contribution, as there are one or two archi</span><span style="font-family: inherit;">tectural elements in common:</span><br />
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This note is secondarily added in the manuscript and is puzzling, since the only thing that has happened indoors so far is the grabby hand gag. There is no sketch associated with #4, either. The vitally important presentation of the Captain and Bride portraits is still to come, so why is the group now leaving the first room and going into the hall? It's hard to avoid such an interpretation, since the next sketch is actually labeled "HALLWAY." To add to the confusion, after the Portrait Gallery, a <i>second</i> reference is made to the "halls" and "exhibits". My guess is that the red notes in the upper part of the manuscript were less concerned with sequencing than with simply getting down on paper effects Ken wanted to be sure to include.</div>
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You have to wonder if some of this rubbed off on <a href="https://longforgottenhauntedmansion.blogspot.com/2014/01/unseen-twists-and-turns-in-corridor-of.html" target="_blank">Marc Davis</a>:</div>
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(Text: "paintings," not "paints.") In the usual summaries, the butler/maid shows us a portrait of either the Captain alone or the couple. The guide then tells the sad, sad story (between attacks from grabby hands). In the new storyboard set, portraits of both the Bride and the Captain are displayed. They are two separate paintings, and they are changing portraits.</div>
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The text says,"Halls, look thrus to exhibits." That is, the halls would have "look-through's" by which guests view the exhibits, probably referring to the "department store window" format of the tableaux, lighting up and then going dark. In the old layout sketch, there's a good, empty spot for this guy immediately to the left after leaving the Portrait Gallery.</div>
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(You know, I'd always wondered exactly what those things in his hands were. Now I know.)</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><span style="color: #c27ba0;">Edit: In a</span><span style="color: #a64d79;"> <a href="https://d23.com/a-haunted-mansion-tale/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">D23 website post</a> </span><span style="color: #c27ba0;">for Oct 28, 2020, Amy Opoka of Walt Disney Archives published many of the storyboard sketches seen here along with an early Anderson script. (See the <a href="https://longforgottenhauntedmansion.blogspot.com/2020/07/the-sea-captain-and-bride-that-you.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">next post</a>.) One of the sketches, however, was not among those on display at the 2019 Burbank exhibit. It confirms our hunch about the above painting, that it is really a montage of the various effects Anderson planned for this tableau:</span></div>
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<span style="font-family: inherit;">This is a departure from the order seen in the old layout, where this scene is placed much later in the show. That probably reflects a variant in the storyline. In at least one known version, the ghost of Priscilla torments the Captain in his bedroom (and he shoots right through her!). In such a case, it obviously makes sense to put this scene somewhere<i> after </i>her murder, as in the old layout.</span><br />
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It's just possible that Anderson was here taking a page from the Winchester Mystery House in San Jose. We know he took a lot of notes during his visit there in March of '57, and for the most part he only seemed interested in the logistics of moving groups of people through a house rather than in ghost story ideas. However, part of the Winchester legend is that Sarah Winchester was terrified of the avenging spirits of those who had been killed by Winchester rifles and sought to appease them. Similarly, one supposes, the spirits of the victims of the Captain's piratical cruelties might be the apparitions depicted in this tableau.<br />
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Apparently a ghost is also searching the room. Note that in Ken's catch-all, "pirate in bed" concept sketch, one of the ghost-pirate enemies terrorizing the Captain is a "footprint" ghost.<br />
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If our reading of the evidence is correct, then it seems Anderson has once again come up with an idea with real legs. The whole <a href="https://longforgottenhauntedmansion.blogspot.com/2010/09/jean-lafitte-and-mega-theme-temptation.html">Jean Lafitte backstory</a> for New Orleans Square, most impressively elaborated by <a href="http://www.sottostudios.com/blog/tag/lafitte">Eddie Sotto</a> but going back in some ways to the origin of Disneyland itself, involves smuggling, piracy, and hidden treasure as essential story elements, but also ghosts. When we see ghosts and skeletons at <a href="https://disneyland.disney.go.com/attractions/disneyland/pirates-lair-on-tom-sawyer-island/">Pirate's Lair on Tom Sawyer Island</a> looking for and hanging onto lost loot, or ghostly treasure appearing and disappearing, are we seeing later developments from Ken's ideas here about pirate-ghosts still searching for lost treasure?</div>
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Okay, NOW we're getting somewhere! It's great to finally have Anderson artwork depicting this famous scene from his original backstory, even if it's only quick sketch work. Note that in the layout she is already the Captain's "wife," whereas here she "refuses to marry him." She doesn't seem to be wearing a wedding gown, and there's nothing to indicate this is happening on their wedding day.</div>
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The overlap between Lewis Carroll's <i>Alice</i> books and the Haunted Mansion is almost nil. To date, I think that the closest connection I have found between the HM and <i>anything at all</i> related to Alice would probably be the scary Dandelion popup in the flower garden of the pre-1983 Fantasyland ride, a direct ancestor to the popup spooks in the Mansion's graveyard 11 years later. That sure ain't much, is it? We've <a href="https://longforgottenhauntedmansion.blogspot.com/2013/01/does-size-matter.html" target="_blank">talked about it before</a>, but as long as the subject has popped up again, I've got an update:<br />
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. . . and maybe we can cobble together something a little more vivid:</div>
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So . . . sorta kinda like this:</div>
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In addition to this, in that earlier post I discussed how the Mansion Imagineers at one point considered incorporating the idea of making the guests feel tiny in an oversized environment, a concept used effectively in the Alice ride. Ultimately, they abandoned the notion.<br />
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Now, you would <i>think </i>that the Alice books might at least have exercised some influence over Rolly Crump's "Museum of the Weird," wouldn't you? The surrealism, the absurdist humor, the impossible animals, the whimsy, the fantasy, the Disney rights—c'mon, it's a natural! We <a href="https://longforgottenhauntedmansion.blogspot.com/2011/07/weirder-haunted-mansion.html" target="_blank">know</a> that Rolly drew inspiration from the phantasmagorical films of Fellini and Cocteau, so why not <i>Alice in Wonderland</i> or <i>Through the Looking Glass?</i><br />
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Well, as it happens, it may just be possible that Rolly<i> did</i> take inspiration for the Museum from a pair of John Tenniel illustrations for the Alice books. Since the Museum never came to realization, that means we are talking here about a footnote to a footnote, and usually I balk at such, but this is the freakin' <i><a href="https://disney.fandom.com/wiki/Museum_of_the_Weird" target="_blank">Museum of the Weird</a></i> we're talking about, not just any old failed concept, and if like me you're a huge fan of both the Museum and the original Alice books, there is some genuine satisfaction to be had in thinking that maybe, just maybe, the former may have drawn some inspiration from the latter, be it only lightly, or slightly, or ships-passing-in-the-night-ly.<br />
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The piece I have in mind is this sketch of the Museum's séance room, which we've all seen many times before:</div>
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And the Tenniel sketches I have in mind are these, from the first chapter of <i>Through the Looking Glass:</i></div>
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We are not interested here in those items. <i>This</i> is the one I want to focus on:</div>
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Rolly's face is actually a skull, of course. In this there is nothing particularly weird about the Museum thereof. Victorians were fond of putting all kinds of things under bell jars. Not just floral arrangements and clocks, as in Alice, but virtually any old curiosity they might have sitting around, including human skulls.</div>
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Unless you're a passionate student of Tenniel's <i>Alice</i> work, you may not know <a href="https://discover.goldmarkart.com/sir-john-tenniel-alice-wood-engravings/" target="_blank">their intriguing history</a>. It seems his original illustrations were engraved on wood blocks (by the Dalziel brothers; that's why you see the name "Dalziel" at the bottom of some of them). But the Dalziels convinced Tenniel that because his work was so delicate, it would be better to use the wood engravings as masters from which electrotype copies could be made, producing copper plates that would last longer. And that's what they did. The problem is that the books were so popular and went through so many printings that the plates got worn, and the quality of the illustrations in <i>Alice</i> editions deteriorated over time. But as chance would have it, the original wood engravings were rediscovered in 1985, pristine and unused! Multiple new sets were soon made from them.</div>
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After all these years, our <a href="https://longforgottenhauntedmansion.blogspot.com/2010/09/other-nine-old-men.html" target="_blank">post on the tombstone epitaphs</a> found in the Graveyard Jamboree finally reached completion only in the last month when Tom Morris helped identify the last, most stubborn holdout among the nine stones. Tom thinks that RESEER is a tribute to Larry Reiser, a project coordinator who may have done some project coordinating at the DL Mansion before heading to Florida, where he did most of his project coordinating. You can tell how much I understand these job titles.<br />
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To celebrate, let's take a look at a long forgotten project done by the man saluted in the NEKEESORF stone, one of the nine, found in considerable quantity throughout the cemetery. You will recall that NEKEESORF is a tribute to Imagineer <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_Forsse" target="_blank">Ken Forsse</a>. We gave a little information about Ken in the "Nine Old Men" post and mentioned the fact that he created an elaborate haunted house model for a now-defunct amusement park, but the online source for that story is no longer available, so no can linky. That's a pity. It's a tale worth telling.<br />
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Mind you, we don't ordinarily concern ourselves here at LF with the outside projects of Disney Imagineers, but in this case we're performing a public service by rescuing something wonderful from the brink of extinction, and it's a <i>haunted house</i> project by a former Haunted Mansion Imagineer, so I don't think I'm going to take too much flak.<br />
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Young Ken:</div>
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<b><span style="color: #f1c232;">The story and the photos which follow all come courtesy of Reed Savory, whom I wish to thank for his permission to share them here.</span></b><br />
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Reed and his wife Zahava paid a visit to Ken and his wife, Professor Jan Forsse, at the tail end of 2013. As he was ill and confined to bed, Ken was unfortunately not able to entertain visitors, and the Savorys didn't have a chance to actually meet him. It was Mrs. Forsse who shared the following with the Savorys. (Sadly, Ken <a href="https://people.com/celebrity/teddy-ruxpin-creator-ken-forsse-has-died/" target="_blank">passed away</a> at the age of 77 just three months later, in March of 2014.)<br />
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Ken left Disney not long after his work on the Haunted Mansion, and in the early 70's he was contacted by the Sid and Marty Krofft organization about the construction of "<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_World_of_Sid_and_Marty_Krofft" target="_blank">The World of Sid and Marty Krofft</a>," an indoor amusement park based on characters created by the Krofft brothers, to be built in Atlanta. They wanted Ken to design a haunted house for the park.<br />
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Ken worked nearly 18 months on the project, constructing a scale model filled with dollhouse-like props, all hand-made. Reed was able to take numerous photos of the huge model in the Forsse's basement, still in excellent condition after four decades.<br />
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"The World of Sid and Marty Krofft" opened in May of 1976 but closed after only six months due to poor attendance. I know what you're all thinking: "How could it miss with a whiz-bang name like that?" One of life's many mysteries, I suppose. Anyway, larger attractions, like Ken's haunted house, were never built. </div>
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Forsse moved on and eventually struck gold in the 1980's with his Teddy Ruxpin doll, mentioned in the earlier post. That's what he's most remembered for. If not for the 2013 visit from the Savorys it's possible that all memory of his remarkable haunted house project some ten years before Teddy would have perished by now.<br />
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<i><span style="color: #d9d2e9; font-family: inherit;"> Long-forgotten,</span></i><br />
<i><span style="color: #d9d2e9; font-family: inherit;"> Shrouded in mystery,</span></i><br />
<i><span style="color: #d9d2e9; font-family: inherit;"> Newly discovered</span></i><br />
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<span style="color: #e06666;">This post has been <i>entirely</i> redone as of June 9, 2020, thanks to a veritable avalanche of new data that has come out in the past week.</span><br />
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As mentioned in the old <a href="https://longforgottenhauntedmansion.blogspot.com/2010/05/here-comes-bride-part-two-beating-heart.html" target="_blank">Beating Heart</a> post, there is a shocking lack of photo evidence for the original attic bride in the WDW Haunted Mansion. To date we have three snapshots and one blurry film clip for her first 18 years of existence.<br />
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Or is there more? I'm referring to another photo, perhaps the most famous and mysterious of all attic bride photos. If you're a long-time Mansion freak, this is geeky, fascinating stuff, but if all of this is brand new to you, well, I can understand it if this little chapter of Mansion history doesn't really grab you, so go ahead and skip this post if you want. It's okay. I won't be hurt. <span style="font-size: x-small;">'Course, you're now off my Christmas card list.</span><br />
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This is the curious photograph that has long been one of those seemingly unsolvable Mansion mysteries.</div>
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Here's some background. Foxxy Hooves, of the <a href="http://passport2dreams.blogspot.com/" target="_blank">Passport to Dreams Old and New</a> blog and one of the best historians of the WDW Mansion, tells me that the photo may have made its first appearance in 1986, in <i>Walt Disney </i><i>World</i>, a souvenir book celebrating the park's 15th anniversary. It continued to appear in subsequent editions of (essentially) the same book, and it can also be found, oddly enough, in a 1992 Euro-Disney souvenir book, evidence that its specific connection to the Orlando attraction may have been slipping away.</div>
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The photo has been reprinted and circulated widely, often accompanied by the claim (implicit or explicit) that it is "the original 1969 bride" at Disneyland. The oddest thing about it is the slit-like eyes. No other bride photo seems to show anything like that. We also know now that the original DL attic ghost was the "<a href="https://longforgottenhauntedmansion.blogspot.com/2010/05/here-comes-bride-part-two-beating-heart.html" target="_blank">Corpse Bride</a>" model, not this blank-faced one. And where's her head veil? And why does she look so junky? I mean, look at that bouquet and the hand holding it.<br />
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Foxxy has<a href="http://passport2dreams.blogspot.com/2008/02/park-mysteries-5.html" target="_blank"> floated the theory</a> that this might have been a prototype, not the production figure actually used in the ride, an explanation that has enjoyed a degree of support among those who actually care about such things. But no one knew for sure.<br />
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And then, out of the blue, a second photo came to light in May of 2020, found by<br />
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My mysterious but highly reliable source, Lonesome Ghost, took note of the conversation and forwarded to me</div>
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some beautiful, high-rez versions of that one, plus the original photo, informing me that they are dated 1973.</div>
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Close examination has shown that they are two different photos. It's <i>not</i> a case of the same photo with eyes and heart added to one copy. It does seem to be the case that they were taken with the same camera at the same session, however. Also, from the furniture in the room and the light fixture on the floor, there is now no doubt that this is some permutation of the Walt Disney World figure, in the correct and final position of the bride in the attic scene.<br />
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As if that weren't enough, as I began to look through my pictures of the slit-eyed model, I discovered that even they are not all identical. The two below may look the same, but if you do the "magic eye" thing you'll see not a flat photo (which is what would happen if they were in fact identical) but a three-dimensional figure. It's very shallow, very subtle, and a little distorted, but unmistakable. That indicates a very slight and probably inadvertent movement either of the camera or the figure between shots. If you blow up certain areas you can see slight but real variation.<br />
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As I continued to compare copies, I came to the conclusion that I may in fact have <i>three</i> different versions of Ol' Slit Eye on my hands, plus the new blank faced one.<span style="color: #f6b26b;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(246, 178, 107);"> </span></span>Previously, I assumed like everyone else that they were all the same photo and was inclined to put down the obvious differences in the eye slits to the hazards of transmission to print. Now that I can see other differences between the photos, I'm inclined to think these eye-slit variations are genuine.<br />
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In the middle of all this craziness, what should pop up but a <a href="https://longforgottenhauntedmansion.blogspot.com/2010/05/here-comes-bride-part-two-beating-heart.html" target="_blank">brand new shot of the bride</a>.<br />
My source for this nice copy thinks it should probably be dated 1974-76:</div>
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Wait a sec. She looks just like the bride as she appeared in the 1980s and 90s! This is getting confusing.</div>
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<span style="color: #93c47d; font-size: large;">The History of the Walt Disney World Bride, 1971-1973</span><br />
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Our best clue for sorting out this mess is staring right at us: the props. In the above photo there's an oval basket, a "Huck Finn"-type statuette, and a metal hatbox on top of the desk next to the bride. It's amazing how stable those props remained. They are there, exactly like that, in photos of the bride from the 1970s right up into the 1990s. About 15 years separate these photos:<br />
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I've only seen two outliers. In the undated "Daveland" photo we see a bell jar instead of the basket:</div>
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What we need is the <i>simplest explanation that accounts for all the known evidence</i>.</div>
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That's <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occam%27s_razor" target="_blank">Occam's razor</a>, dude, and that's how we operate around here.</div>
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The Daveland photo is likely the oldest photo of the WDW attic bride that we currently possess, showing that she was originally the "Corpse Bride" model, albeit a much milder version than the DL version. She probably had thin, slit-like eyes. The Imagineers must not have liked the look very well, because as early as 1973 they revisited and revised her. They opened up her eyes quite a bit and got rid of the Corpse look entirely in favor of a black, featureless visage. In doing so, they anticipated the changes made to the DL bride by several years. (It may be that they thought the reflections in the bell jar were distracting and replaced it with a basket at this same time, but that's pure speculation.)<br />
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At any rate, what we've probably got in these "Slit-eyed Bride" photos are pictures taken by WDI (then WED) in 1973 while they were reworking the bride's appearance. They set up a camera on a tripod, but that wasn't enough to ensure that very subtle movements might take place between shots, enough so you can tell that these pix are not all copies of a single shot. It looks like they darkened her face and experimented with how wide to make her eyes, <i>click click click</i>, eventually going for a fairly wide-open look. All of our other early photos of the bride date from after this, and there will be few if any further changes until <a href="https://longforgottenhauntedmansion.blogspot.com/2010/05/here-comes-bride-part-three-two-lost.html" target="_blank">Smurfette</a> shows up in 1997, just some minor fiddling with her veil, her bouquet, and small details of her dress from time to time.<br />
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Despite the fact that the figure is obviously in an incomplete state in the "Slit-eye" photos, with her head veil missing and her bouquet out of position, to say nothing of the now-obsolete eye slits, some of the photos taken during the 1973 revision process were nevertheless appropriated for publicity purposes, and out into the world they went, baffling us ever since.<br />
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<span style="color: #9fc5e8;">For an alternate view, see now Foxxfur's remarks in the <i>Comments</i>.</span><br />
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There's nothing weird about this, by the way. While they were building the Florida attraction, for example, the publicity people didn't always wait for stuff to be finished before grabbing pictures the Imagineers were taking and putting them in the papers. Hence, a number of widely used photos show unfinished figures. My favorite is a ballroom photo showing Granny still missing her wig. She's also got a piece of cardboard or something across her chest. Maybe she was missing more than her hair!<br />
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Other characters are not fully dressed. Pickwick, on the chandelier, is missing his hat. So is the<br />
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So there's nothing strange to the idea that photos of a figure not quite show-worthy but of professional quality<br />
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<span style="text-align: left;">If my historical reconstruction is correct, the WDW bride had slit-like eyes for approximately the first two years of her existence. Perhaps this design feature simply reflects the maquette figure, which also had slit-like eyes:</span></div>
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As it happens, the mechanical design of the lighted eyes allowed for any amount of manipulation of their shape. You just mask the WALL -E eye box in her head (well, that's what it reminds <i>me </i>of) in any way you think appropriate and get any shape eye you want.<br />
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Beating Heart in Florida probably squinted at us in the early days.</div>
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(That's <i>rap, </i>kids, like, you know, when hippies say "rap." Never mind. Boomer thing.)<br />
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The germ of this post actually goes back to October of 2012. At the time I didn't think it was worth an independent post, so I <i>tabled</i> it. Since then enough new interest and new information has accumulated to change my mind.<br />
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This is one of those studies that focuses on an insignificant detail in the Mansion which, upon examination, turns out to be . . . okay, an insignificant detail. Actually I prefer to think of it as the tip of an interesting iceberg. <span style="text-align: center;">The detail in question is a small table in the Séance Circle, located on the same levitating carpet </span><span style="text-align: center;">occupied by Leota's table, chair, and (since 2005) spell book stand. It's always been there.</span><br />
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<span style="font-size: x-small;"><span style="color: #8e7cc3;">(Close up from a Daveland photo found</span> <a href="https://www.davelandweb.com/hauntedmansion/hm_ac.html" target="_blank">here</a><span style="color: #8e7cc3;">)</span></span></div>
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In the past, I've usually referred to it as a "scrying table," which is probably not the most accurate description. While it isn't exactly wrong, it isn't exactly right either. You'll soon see why. And speaking of "why" questions . . .<br />
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<span style="color: #93c47d; font-size: large;"><i><u>Why</u></i> is it there? and Why is <i><u>it</u></i> there?</span><br />
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I suspect that its original purpose was to house the projector for the "Leota effect." I don't have any proof of this, but the reason I tend to think so is that it looks like the little table originally stood almost directly in front of her, to judge by these old photos:<br />
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You will recall that up until just a few months before opening day, the plan was to have<a href="http://ghostrelationsdept.blogspot.com/2008/02/youll-flip-when-you-meet-madame-leota.html" target="_blank"> Leota facing the <i>opposite</i> direction</a>. You would see her face as you entered the room, and her projector was going to be in the cabinet directly behind her, which is still there. As we've pointed out <a href="https://longforgottenhauntedmansion.blogspot.com/2012/10/the-haunted-mansion-in-miniature.html" target="_blank">before</a>, you can see this earlier arrangement in photos of the scale model the Imagineers made:<br />
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The thing to bear in mind is that all of these arrangements were <i>incredibly</i> rushed during the chaotic months of spring and early summer 1969, and it may well be that at first they expected to put the projector closer to the Madame, in which case they would need a piece of furniture to hide it in. Otherwise, I can't see any reason for including the little table to begin with, nor placing it where they did. I don't see it in any of the scale model photos.<br />
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If I'm wrong about this, it doesn't matter all that much. It could be that the only answer to the "why" question is that they found the little table somewhere, thought it looked cool, and plopped it in.<br />
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It <i>does</i> have a function in that it's got a candle on it, but for most of its existence the table top was bare. The candle only appeared in January of 2005, when they put in the Spell Book and some fancy new candles on the main table. That's also when its legs were lengthened, presumably because it now has something inside of it. A speaker, I imagine.<br />
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Okay, but what is it, exactly? It's a relic from the Victorian era, an antique, like many of the incidental furnishings in the Mansion. Antique dealers refer to them as "<a href="https://www.google.com/search?q=moroccan+side+tables&client=safari&channel=mac_bm&sxsrf=ALeKk01gYjR1Vy72Em_xlSQs-rq4wjGdWQ:1588697165102&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwimr7mRlp3pAhVL4qwKHZ98ASAQ_AUoAnoECA0QBA&biw=1452&bih=999" target="_blank">Moroccan side tables</a>" (or "end tables"). They also call them "Moorish," "Turkish," "Ottoman," "Syrian," "Anglo Indian" and "Arabesque." Google any of those terms plus either "end" or "side" table, and you'll find hundreds of examples. It turns out that the one in the Disneyland Mansion is actually one of the most common varieties, although there are myriads of differences between them.<br />
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The sun never set on the Union Jack back in the days of Queen Victoria, and there was a bottomless appetite for quaint and curious items drawn from the farthest reaches of the British Empire, including and perhaps especially the "mysterious East." These handsome little tables, with their inlaid mother-of-pearl and intricate geometry, were charming conversation pieces, exotic imports from remote "Mahometan lands." You can spot them in paintings and photos of oh-so-artsy Victorian interiors:<br />
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So you're looking at a piece of authentic Victoriana, something you might find in any well-to-do house of the era, especially if the owners had a taste for the exotic and mysterious, so it's hardly surprising to find something like that in the Haunted Mansion. In the middle of 1969, someone probably found it in a local antique store for a decent price and grabbed it for the Séance Circle projector cover (if my guess is correct). When they decided not to project the Leota image from such close range, they kept the table anyway.</div>
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It's got something else going for it, making it an appropriate choice for the Séance room. If you looked carefully at the examples above, I'm sure you noticed that many of them have hexagrams on their tops, including the one in the Mansion.</div>
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In other words, it is not at all ridiculous to suppose that at least some of these table makers saw a spiritual and even magical significance in their designs. In fact, I would go so far as to suggest that it may be nothing more than Western prejudice to assume that hexagrams and other polygonal forms were <i>ever</i> "merely geometrical decoration" within the world view of these Middle Eastern craftsmen.</div>
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As for Edwardians, there was a short story in the Oct 2, 1909 issue of the <i>Saturday Evening Post</i> called "The Nth Power," by Arthur Train, about a mysterious gentleman who was a master clairvoyant, telepath, and hypnotist. He's even got a crystal ball hanging over his dining room table, but all of it is quite "scientific." At one point he places a candle on a small table between himself and the narrator and so begins the process of putting him into a bizarre and nearly disastrous trance. When illustrator Alonzo Kimball rendered the scene, he knew what kind of table to draw:</div>
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And if you want evidence that these tables <i>still</i> look magical to modern eyes,</div>
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In the end, the point is quite simple. These side tables from the Victorian era <i>kinda sorta have a magical feel to them</i>, and apparently always have, and that's probably why it just felt right to put one at Madame Leota's disposal. I mean, really, has anyone ever said that it looks out of place? And as a fan of the Haunted Mansion and admirer of its detailed artistry, you'll never look at this particular item in quite the same way again, now will you? I rest my case.<br />
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It remains to give some account of the tables found in the other Mansions. For some reason, the WDW HM also had a small table in its Séance Circle from the beginning, even though by 1971 there was surely no thought of putting a projector in it. In contrast to DL, it was a modest, normal-looking table, with flowers:<br />
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During the 2007 "Rehaunting," the table was traded out for a Moroccan side table like the one in Anaheim.<br />
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Phantom Manor, on the other hand, has always had a Moroccan end table. Like Orlando's,<br />
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<span style="color: #e06666;">Updated June 19, 2020</span><br />
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The highlight of the 2007 "Rehaunting" of the WDW Haunted Mansion (as it was called) was the addition of the "Grand Staircase" (as <i>it</i> was called):<br />
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It was the first time a "phantom footprints" effect had been incorporated into any of the Mansions, even though there had been plenty of interest in this sort of ghostly effect in the earliest years of the ride's development. A previously unknown example of exactly this interest has recently come to light. More about that later. First, some typical LF background...<br />
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<span style="color: #93c47d; font-size: large;"> Mysterious Footprints</span><br />
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Mysterious footprints come in a variety of flavors, of course. There are the sort known as<br />
"the Devil's hoof prints," such as appeared perhaps most famously in <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devil%27s_Footprints" target="_blank">Devon</a>, in 1855: </div>
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Then there are anomalous human footprints, appearing where they shouldn't be . . . </div>
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Then there are cryptozoological examples, like Bigfoot.<br />
Bigfoot prints are . . . well, big footprints.</div>
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The Devil's footprints in Devon defied natural law, going up to walls and continuing on the other side as if the wall wasn't there, and going up and down steep rooflines (as in the illustration above). That feature will be significant in the discussion to follow.<br />
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<b><span style="color: #cc0000;">But what about GHOSTS?</span></b><br />
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I was getting to that. Within ghost lore, inexplicable footsteps are a long-standing feature (or should we say, "long-<i>walking</i> feature"?). Foot<i>prints</i> are less common than foot<i>falls; </i>that is, the sound of footsteps. As we have seen (well, <i><a href="https://longforgottenhauntedmansion.blogspot.com/2011/08/beginning-of-endless-hallway.html" target="_blank">heard</a></i>), an elaborate "ghostly footsteps" effect was planned for the Endless Hallway and Corridor of Doors area, but they gave it the boot, mere months before opening. It's not surprising that they wanted to include such an effect, as phantom footfalls are VERY common in the literature on hauntings and poltergeist activity. They are often among the first of many strange occurrences, the opening movement to a symphony of the bizarre.<br />
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Still, visible prints are also common enough. If you Google "ghosts" or "haunted" and add "wet footprints" or "strange footprints," you'll get a lot of hits. I especially like the <a href="https://www.ohioexploration.com/paranormal/hauntings/franklincounty/" target="_blank">report</a> of a security guard quitting his job in the middle of the night after witnessing wet footprints appear, walking into the lobby of a (very, very) haunted Gap warehouse in Groveport, Ohio.<br />
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Like I say, there are plenty of more-or-less credible-sounding reports of anomalous footprints (e.g. <a href="http://weekinweird.com/2016/07/21/man-shares-eerie-photos-of-ghostly-black-footprints-that-appear-during-the-night/" target="_blank">HERE</a> and <a href="https://www.richmondandtwickenhamtimes.co.uk/news/526296.ghostly-footprints-found-at-ham-house/" target="_blank">HERE</a> and <a href="https://ryan1071.wordpress.com/2013/02/26/where-the-paranormal-began-for-the-bissman-building/" target="_blank">HERE</a> and <a href="https://www.wktvjournal.org/of-ghosts-and-beers-the-mitten-brewing-co-has-some-tales-to-share/" target="_blank">HERE</a> and <a href="https://www.visitstaugustine.com/article/haunting-tour-lighthouse" target="_blank">HERE</a>). The prints are usually watery or dirty, but sometimes bloody, and yes, sometimes <i>glowing</i>. The closest account I've seen to something resembling the effect found in the Mansion's "Grand Staircase" is this one on <a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/Paranormal/comments/wik52/glowing_footprintshas_anyone_else_ever_seen_them/" target="_blank">Reddit</a>, posted in 2013:</div>
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<i><span style="color: #45818e;"><u>Glowing footprints....has anyone else ever seen them</u>?</span></i></div>
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<i style="font-family: inherit; font-size: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit;"><span style="color: #45818e;">I am submitting this question on behalf of my roommate. He is now thirty years old and about 20 years ago, while on a class trip to a campsite in NJ, he witnessed glowing footprints standing right next to his bed. The lights were off and he just happened to look down on the floor and saw two glowing footprints next to his bed. They were positioned as if someone was standing over him. He at first thought that his boots were glowing (he was ten years old and couldn't fathom any other explanation). After he stared at them for a minute though, he realized that they were indeed glowing footprints standing next to his bed.</span></i></div>
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<i><span style="color: #45818e;">He kind of freaked out and called his classmates attention to it (there were about 10 other kids sleeping in the same cabin). ALL of the other students witnessed the same thing and they got scared and turned the lights on. The footprints were not visible with the lights on but as soon as they turned the lights out, they reappeared. And to make it even stranger, throughout the night, the footprints made their way to a wall and eventually disappeared (apparently through the wall?).</span></i></div>
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<i><span style="color: #45818e;">My roommate is NOT the type to imagine things and is not into the paranormal at all. He is 100% sure of what he and the other students saw that night. When he talks about it he only says, "you know how you run through all of your life experiences in your head right before you die? Well, that experience is bookmarked as one of the strangest, most inexplicable things in my entire life."</span></i></div>
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<i><span style="color: #45818e;">So yeah, Im just wondering if anyone else has ever experienced anything similar?</span></i></div>
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<i><span style="color: #45818e;">EDIT: Thanks for the input guys. He is quite sure that it was not anything that anyone tracked into the cabin. They were two perfectly formed footprints standing right next to his bed. As the night went on, they changed positions gradually until they were literally standing in front of the wall. And then....they just disappeared as though they walked right through the wall. The footprints were always only in one spot at a time.</span></i></div>
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In the Philippines people have been <a href="https://mysteriousuniverse.org/2018/11/mysterious-ghostly-baby-footprints-appear-in-many-philippine-malls/" target="_blank">freaking out</a> over a child's dirty footprint that keeps appearing in shopping malls:</div>
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Why a small child, you ask? Because even the ghosts are trying to reduce their carbon footprint on the planet. <i>Ba-da-bing.</i></div>
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<b>Plenty of photos out there. Decide for yourself what to make of the whole business.</b><br />
<b>The point is, ghost footprints are still very much a part of paranormal phenomena.</b><br />
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The tread of the dead? Toes of those in repose? Tootsies of the kaputsies?</div>
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Although these are all contemporary accounts, I think it's safe enough to assume that similar stories were around in the days of the Haunted Mansion's development. Ghostly footprints can be found in old films and literature as well. A particularly good example can be seen in the schlocky 1960 horror film, <i>Tormented</i>, featuring the vengeful ghost of a murdered woman. (Those are <i>such</i> a pain in the ass.)</div>
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I'll cite one literary example, early enough to have been known to the Mansion Imagineers and especially relevant because of <i>where the prints appear</i> (as you'll see presently). Back in the 30's and 40's a magician and author named <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clayton_Rawson" target="_blank">Clayton Rawson</a> published a series of mystery novels featuring a magician-cum-detective named The Great Merlini. (Same basic premise as <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Magician_(American_TV_series)" target="_blank">this</a> short-lived TV series.) A couple of the books were even made into movies. Anyway, one of them is a locked room, haunted house mystery called <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Footprints_on_the_Ceiling" target="_blank">The Footprints on the Ceiling</a>:</div>
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Of course the footprints are hoaxed, as you would expect in a detective story. But this still demonstrates indirectly the presence of the "ghostly footprints" motif in pop culture. After all, if a literary or cinematic criminal hoaxes something like this in order to scare off investigators, it must be the case that such footprints are a recognized element of ghost lore, no? The inference is obvious enough for a <i>Scooby Doo </i>cartoon.</div>
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Let us now turn our steps back toward the Haunted Mansion. As we have seen before, the theme of ghostly footprints begins with Ken Anderson, as with <a href="https://longforgottenhauntedmansion.blogspot.com/2010/10/father-of-haunted-mansion-part-three.html" target="_blank">so many other ideas</a>. Ken was rather fond of phantom feet, and we see them in several of his concept sketches. Unlike all the Imagineers who followed in his footsteps, Ken favored bare feet, which is actually closer to reports of the genuine phenomenon.<br />
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Claude Coats included ghostly footprints in his 1966 concept art for the Grand Ballroom, but we know he was mostly just <a href="https://longforgottenhauntedmansion.blogspot.com/2010/06/mansion-gets-organized.html" target="_blank">copying Ken</a>:</div>
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<span style="color: #e06666;"><u>UPDATE</u> (6-20-20): An overlooked detail in Anderson's "Bloodmere Manor" script, dated Sept 17, 1957, is highly relevant here. At the climax of the show, the wedding scene in the "Great Hall," the ghost groom lifts off his bride's head to kiss it, she slaps him, and all hell breaks loose. One detail in the turbulent cacophony that follows is rarely reported: </span><span style="color: #ffd966;">Footprints run all around the floor and even up the walls. </span><span style="color: #e06666;">This anticipates the 1961 document discussed below.</span></div>
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Until recently, the next steps in this historical review would have taken<br />
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As mentioned earlier, some newly discovered evidence sheds unexpected light on this topic. This is the <i>real</i> reason for doing this post!<br />
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The document is a set of notes from a "Haunted House Meeting" on November 22, 1961, and it contains an outline of the attraction as it was conceived at that very early date. As we saw in the <a href="https://longforgottenhauntedmansion.blogspot.com/2020/03/marc-daviss-haunted-mansion.html" target="_blank">Marc Davis</a> post, the first two rooms of the attraction were already established in 1964: The Elongating Room and the Portrait Hall. You might think that those rooms were determined because, after all, the elevators and breezeway under the railroad tracks had already been constructed by 1964, but thanks to this new evidence we now know that <i><span style="color: #76a5af;">even in 1961, before the existing façade building had been built, that was the case. </span></i>After those two rooms, however, the show was up for grabs. As we have seen, the third room in Davis's 1964 outline was the séance room. Interestingly, the '61 "Meeting" notes do not include a séance room <i>per se, </i>but on the other hand, the third room is called the "Ectoplasm Room" and is expected to possibly have a "drawing room decor," so it may not be a coincidence that the actual séance room does indeed feature a parlor-like decor and an ectoplasm effect (at least until recently; the effect vanished between 2017 and 18).<br />
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The "Meeting" notes are actually <i>very </i>brief at this point and describe only one effect in the "Ectoplasm Room." You guessed it, <i><span style="color: #e06666;">ghostly footprints</span></i>. Lots of them. On the walls. On the ceiling. Leaving "fanny marks" when the footprints show that the ghosts have apparently bumped into each other and have fallen down (or fallen <i>up</i>, I guess, since it's "on the ceiling"). I imagine the "fanny marks" were a pair of ovals?<br />
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Curiously, the Ghost Host chooses this moment to give us the number of ghosts hereabouts. Not 13, as in <a href="https://longforgottenhauntedmansion.blogspot.com/2014/06/creepy-old-flicks-part-three-uninvited.html" target="_blank">the movie</a> that probably inspired such enumerations, and not 1001, as in some early publicity. Not 999, either. It's <b>485</b>! The significance of the number, if there is any, escapes me.<br />
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I don't know if the Imagineering crew for WDW's "Rehaunting" in 2007 was aware of this 1961 document. Obviously there are differences, like the stairs themselves of course, but nothing I've seen in any other HM historical material sounds closer to a description of what they did: <i><span style="color: #76a5af;">a room full of glowing footprints walking about, defying gravity, moving sideways and even upside down.</span></i><br />
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There have been a number of conjectures as to how they did the footsteps. Fibre optics and embedded LED lighting are often mentioned. The truth is that the footprints are simply projections, not terribly different in principle from what Yale Gracey came up with many decades ago.<br />
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We've often been told that WDI never throws an idea away, meaning that something in the dead files may yet come to life years later. This newly uncovered document provides us with another good example of an old idea stepping out of the shadows at a much later date and becoming a visible reality. Ken Anderson conceived it, Yale Gracey figured out how to do it, the 1961 team figured out how to use it, and the 2007 team finally did it.<br />
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<span style="color: #8e7cc3;">These are extraordinary times we are living through, and I hope my readers are </span><span style="color: #8e7cc3;">all </span><span style="color: #8e7cc3;">doing </span><span style="color: #8e7cc3;">the</span><br />
<span style="color: #8e7cc3;">right things and staying healthy. Courage! Someday this will all be passed, and therefore <i>past. </i></span></div>
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Under the present circumstances, celebration feels out of place. Nevertheless, the sand in the hourglass continues to run, heedless of our preferences or the mood of the day; and so, appropriate or not, we do here acknowledge that <span style="color: #6aa84f;">Long Forgotten has turned TEN</span>. Who'd a thunk?<span style="color: #e06666;"> Furthermore, it just so happens that this is the blog's 150th post.</span><br />
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It's so strange to me to think that LF has now been in existence for a solid fifth of the Mansion's. As always on these occasions, I offer my thanks to all you readers and especially to the commenters, you who have made this crazy little hobby feel like it's worth the time and effort.<br />
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Okay, that's enough mush (and gloom). As you know, our anniversary notices always include a morsel of Mansionalia. Today, we turn<br />
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Roy is best known from his four-year stint on the Mickey Mouse Club TV show, and I'm sure there are a lot of folks who think that's</div>
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about all he ever was: A cuddly, avuncular, kid's show co-host. (Did you know that he is credited with inventing the mouse-ears hat?)</div>
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He was much more than that, of course. He joined Disney in 1930 and was very active at the studio on a number of projects. He was especially</div>
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well-remembered as a immensely talented "gag-man," a veritable fountain of comic ideas and the envy of the studio in that area.</div>
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These were often quick, rough sketches, but he also did more sophisticated artwork, like these concept<br />
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Anyway, you can read more about Roy <a href="https://d23.com/walt-disney-legend/roy-williams/" target="_blank">HERE</a>. There's some fun stuff <a href="http://jimhillmedia.com/alumni1/b/wade_sampson/archive/2005/02/02/1245.aspx" target="_blank">HERE</a>, and there's a delightful interview with him in volume four of Didier Ghez's <a href="https://www.amazon.com/dp/1941500595?tag=duckduckgo-osx-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1" target="_blank">Walt's People</a> series (pp 179-186). But what is Roy Williams doing in a Long-Forgotten post?<br />
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Paul Anderson, at the Disney History Institute, has posted on the DHI <a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/disneyhistoryinstitute/" target="_blank">Facebook</a> page over recent years a number of Williams gag sketches from 1962, suggestions for props that could be used in front of the Haunted Mansion while it was being built. The idea was to give folks something more interesting to look at than construction walls or dirt.<br />
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It's just possible that one of these sketches served as an inspiration for a Marc Davis sketch that resulted in a gag actually used in the Mansion. If true, that would put Roy on the Mansion "B list," those Imagineers who were never officially assigned to the project but who nevertheless made a lasting contribution somewhere or other.<br />
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I'm thinking of this sketch, part of the same series:</div>
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As soon as I saw it, it reminded me of this Marc Davis concept sketch of the bicycling ghosts:</div>
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Since Roy's sketch is from 1962, it's plenty early enough to be an influence on Marc. What do you think?</div>
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This is another one of those connections where we will probably never know if it's sheer coincidence or a true case of influence. I myself suspect at least subconscious influence in this case. If Marc saw Roy's sketches (which is perfectly believable), I'm sure he appreciated the humor, and this idea could have bubbled up in his mind later at the drawing board, either consciously or unconsciously.<br />
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So when you're looking at the bikers, it'll be fun to think that they <i>may</i> owe their genesis to that jolly ol' Mousketeer, Roy Williams.</div>
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I've done posts on <a href="https://longforgottenhauntedmansion.blogspot.com/2010/07/thats-my-queue.html" target="_blank">all</a> ... <a href="https://longforgottenhauntedmansion.blogspot.com/2010/09/other-nine-old-men.html" target="_blank">the</a> ... <a href="https://longforgottenhauntedmansion.blogspot.com/2014/04/the-berm-graveyard-and-case-of-moving.html" target="_blank">Mansion</a> ... <a href="https://longforgottenhauntedmansion.blogspot.com/2010/07/pet-cemeteries.html" target="_blank">graveyards</a> (total of eight, by my calculations; but it depends on how one chooses to count them). Here at LF we've also included a well-received excursus on the <a href="https://longforgottenhauntedmansion.blogspot.com/2017/09/buried-on-tom-sawyer-island-excursus.html" target="_blank">three graveyards on Tom Sawyer Island</a>. This led to a post on <a href="https://longforgottenhauntedmansion.blogspot.com/2018/01/tombstones-and-milestones.html" target="_blank"><i>other</i> long-forgotten graveyards</a> in the park, like the one on Rainbow Ridge and a special one-off at the Mansion in 2000.<br />
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There are <i>two more</i> boneyards that I have promised at one time or another to cover someday, and I guess that day is today. Even though it may seriously be questioned whether either of these is really worth a post here, it doesn't matter. I said I'd do 'em, and by Gore, do them I shall.<br />
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And then <i>that's it</i>. I am aware that still other DL graveyards once existed (like the cluster of tombstones around the vulture's tree in America Sings), or still do exist (like the "boot hill" setting in the Frontierland shooting gallery), but I'm skating on thin enough ice as it is.<br />
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If you like the little stone church in the "Alice's Village" portion of Storybook Land, you will definitely want to check out <a href="https://miehana.blogspot.com/2017/08/the-quaint-little-church-of-storybook.html" target="_blank">this post by Kevin Kidney</a>. I'll lift two pix from there to show the germinal history of the building, but I recommend you go see the rest of the photos at Kevin's blog.<br />
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Here's fun fact number one: The windows in the church are real; that is, genuine leaded stained glass! Frank Armitage designed them, and Disney legend Harriet Burns made them.<br />
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Three cheers to that someone. I must confess to a strong weakness [<i>sic</i>] for English churches, so it's no surprise that this is my favorite building in Storybook Land. I've got several books on English church architecture, as a matter of fact, with heavy emphasis on the humble but often very ancient parish church.<br />
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Something I find quaint and curious is that in addition to the fact that these old churches always have graveyards beside them, on occasion <i>the churches themselves</i> function like grave markers. There are about 3000 lost villages in the British Isles, hamlets and towns no longer extant, wiped out by the plague in many cases, and after all these centuries it is sometimes the case that the village can only be located because the ruins of its church are still there. Being the only stone building in the village, it survived while everything else gradually disappeared.<br />
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<span style="color: #6fa8dc;">Lo, the hamlet of Low Ham. Only the parish church still stands, like a tombstone for the lost village.</span></div>
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But I digress. Back to Alice. Like any ancient parish church, Alice's includes a churchyard. Since it's still there, this lilliputian cemetery isn't so much long forgotten as easily forgotten. It's charming, but beyond that, what is there to say? Well, there is one thing I've noticed, and I suppose this will have to qualify as fun fact number three: Unlike other Disneyland graveyards, whenever they do some gardening/landscaping/painting/ that entails uprooting the tombstones, they put them back any old way they please. Little attempt is made to keep the markers in any particular spots or to replicate the old design when a new one is made. A simple photo survey shows this clearly enough (as if we needed an excuse!).<br />
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Here's a "magic eye" 3D version of the church when it was brand new.</div>
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Note that the greenery around the scene has not yet filled in.</div>
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The two shots below show the churchyard some time later, but still in the 50's,<br />
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By 2015, they are spread out again:</div>
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Hmph. No respect for the dead if they're only three inches tall, and this despite the vehement</div>
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In the early history of the first pet cemetery at the Haunted Mansion (on the north side), we saw <a href="https://longforgottenhauntedmansion.blogspot.com/2013/01/to-find-way-out.html" target="_blank">some degree of carelessness</a> with regard to the placement of the animal markers, but nothing like the cavalier attitude we see here. You will recall that when someone treated the <a href="https://longforgottenhauntedmansion.blogspot.com/2017/09/buried-on-tom-sawyer-island-excursus.html" target="_blank">Fort Wilderness cemetery</a> in this way, a subsequent Imagineer put the grave markers back where they belonged, indignantly, one supposes.<br />
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<span style="color: #93c47d; font-size: large;">A Mansion Tribute? Little Chance, <i>Very</i> Little</span><br />
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In the 2008 and 2013 shots you can see that one of the tombstones is painted in the fashion of an authentic 16th-18th century grave marker, complete with a crude winged-skull icon at the top:</div>
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I only mention it because most of the headstones in the Mansion's graveyard jamboree scene are also designed to reflect that era, and a few of them also sport the popular winged-skull image. There's nothing close enough here to suggest that the Alice stone is an actual tribute to the Mansion. Almost certainly it's merely a matter of aping a similar style from the same, broad time period. Still, it's fun to wonder about it. A little.</div>
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Very much in the "long forgotten" category this, but it may be doubted whether it counts as a graveyard at all. It isn't even a deliberate deposit of the deceased, like the good old <span style="color: #45818e;">Heap o' Skulls™</span> over in the Jungle Cruise:</div>
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But for some reason it seems to belong in the group. Here's the story. When the Rainbow Caverns Mine Train first opened in 1956, the Living Desert had a poisoned waterhole scene in it, a place where many cattle had apparently died. The waterhole was really part of the Stagecoach, Conestoga Wagon, and Pack Mule attractions more than the Mine Train. It disappeared pretty early, probably when the ride was revamped in 1960 and became the Mine Train through Nature's Wonderland and the Wagons and Stagecoach were axed. If so, the originally toxic scene was there four years at most.<br />
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You rarely find direct photos of it. Usually, you only see it in the corner of a picture of something else! It seems that most of the time it was dry, but it was always recognizable by the warning sign in the middle of it and the cattle bones around it.<br />
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In this old photo the waterhole is on the extreme left, and the sign is not visible, but it gives a good idea of the general location vis-a-vis the various means of conveyance through the Living Desert of the '56-60 era. (While you're at it, check out the utterly unconvincing pueblo buildings atop the rockwork. The lesson here, my fine young junior Imagineers, is that there are limits to how far perspective may successfully be forced, even at Disneyland.)</div>
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Oh, and here's your proof that sometimes the waterhole actually did have water in it:</div>
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There's been some discussion about what the sign read. It wasn't easy to decipher, but... <i>Long-Forgotten to the rescue!</i></div>
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The shape and design of the sign remind me of the original riverfront grave markers on Tom Sawyer Island:</div>
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I'm not sure what is signified by the odd, blobby shape. An old, decayed board?</div>
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A rough cross-section taken from a felled tree or a tree stump?</div>
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<span style="color: #a64d79;">As a reward for reading this far, here's a newly unearthed photo (posted 1-10-20),</span></div>
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<span style="color: #a64d79;"><span style="color: #d5a6bd;">showing </span><span style="color: #d5a6bd;">that </span><span style="color: #d5a6bd;">1956 original riverside tombstone pair, courtesy of good ol'</span></span><span style="color: #d5a6bd;"> </span><a href="https://davelandblog.blogspot.com/search?q=fort+wilderness&max-results=20&by-date=true" target="_blank">Dave</a><span style="color: #d5a6bd;">.</span></div>
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I tend to lump the poisoned waterhole in with the lost graveyards of Frontierland, even though it's technically not a graveyard. Based on that final observation above, I suppose you could justify it as an addendum to the TSI graveyard post, but seriously, I wouldn't think about it too much. Just roll with it and enjoy the show, folks.</div>
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